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theRose4U -> RE: Our Friendly Neighborhood Wal-Mart (10/16/2006 7:19:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Aileen68

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ORIGINAL: CrappyDom

If you are in an environment where your competence can be seen and experienced, you are right "looks" don't matter as much.

Its like the whole stupid power tie thing, if you are counting on that tie as your "edge" you are fucked.  However, just like good grooming, dressing well is just one more way to set yourself out from the pack.

I prefer competence AND style.


Why do you think women buy such great shoes.


Yeah but great shoes without a mani & pedi is just gross.



Saratov -> RE: Our Friendly Neighborhood Wal-Mart (10/16/2006 7:20:58 PM)

If a man walks into a party and sees another man wearing an identical suit he doesn't go hide or run home. [8|]



LTRsubNW -> RE: Our Friendly Neighborhood Wal-Mart (10/16/2006 7:24:42 PM)

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ORIGINAL: CrappyDom

If you are in an environment where your competence can be seen and experienced, you are right "looks" don't matter as much.

Its like the whole stupid power tie thing, if you are counting on that tie as your "edge" you are fucked.  However, just like good grooming, dressing well is just one more way to set yourself out from the pack.

I prefer competence AND style.


(If I had to choose {and I don't}...I'll take results...any day).



LTRsubNW -> RE: Our Friendly Neighborhood Wal-Mart (10/16/2006 7:29:06 PM)

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ORIGINAL: cuddleheart50

It's funny to me how men argue(or debate as they call it) over the smallest things.  I have never noticed in any of the other threads women doing this, has anyone else? 


Quiet woman!!!  We're bumping chests here DAMMIT!!!



cuddleheart50 -> RE: Our Friendly Neighborhood Wal-Mart (10/16/2006 7:33:57 PM)

Yes Sir!!  " goes to bed"



Emperor1956 -> RE: Our Friendly Neighborhood Wal-Mart (10/16/2006 9:03:26 PM)

man...it MUST be a full moon.  A few things:

CD, you said it well, again.  I'll leave it there.

LTRsubNW, I don't mind a bid of chest-thumping and bumping, but I AM sorry that apparently and unwittingly I struck a nerve with you and MizSuz.   but come on, dude....a PINTO?  for real?

And LaM, I have no idea where this comes from: 
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I think Emperor would be willing to fight with me over anything.

Its not true.  I was addressing the shirting/suiting issue is what I thought was a lighthearted way (although my point about quality was serious).  Apparently you didn't get that.  I won't address anything you post in the future, if you'd rather.  You simply don't matter that much.

E.



Lordandmaster -> RE: Our Friendly Neighborhood Wal-Mart (10/16/2006 9:13:00 PM)

Yeah, I rest my case, your Honor.

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ORIGINAL: Emperor1956

You simply don't matter that much.



SirKenin -> RE: Our Friendly Neighborhood Wal-Mart (10/16/2006 11:54:30 PM)

They sell a marvellous can of Ravioli...



Sinergy -> RE: Our Friendly Neighborhood Wal-Mart (10/17/2006 12:33:51 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Kedicat

Wal Mart is neither good or evil. They are playing the game that we have set the rules for. I work for a company that is still privately owned, by the man who started it and his son now. They have certain personal standards of conduct, honesty and honour. Some customers that have passed us by for bribes and empty promises, have come back to do business with us.

The bad thing is corporatization. It absolves all of responsibility and guilt. It becomes a disconnected bottom line. And corporations do what they are supposed to do. What we have allowed and legislated them to do. A corporation is akin to a mob. It is divorced from it's actions, the shareholder always invisible in the mob. ( mob as in large group, not mafia )
We can only change the methods of Wal Mart and its ilk, with many changes to legislation, international treaties etc...And taking the short term pain for the long term gain. Some gain would come in the very short term though. Some pain last a bit long.

We made WalMart and such. We must remake them.



In 2002, the shipping companies decided to lock the union I work for out of the harbor.

The net cost to the US taxpayer was something in the neighborhood of 56 billion dollars.

Walmart told Monkeyboy to open the harbor, which he did, forcing the shipping companies to call union people in to unload ships.

People today that I talk to still think our union went on strike.

Uh.  No.

Just me,  could be wrong, etc.

Sinergy



Sinergy -> RE: Our Friendly Neighborhood Wal-Mart (10/17/2006 12:35:54 AM)

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ORIGINAL: theRose4U

Yeah but great shoes without a mani & pedi is just gross.



Interesting article in last month's Esquire about how a man's
hands show who he is.

Apparently, the women involved in the survey liked a man's hands rough, calloused, scarred, etc.

Just me, etc.

Sinergy



ownedgirlie -> RE: Our Friendly Neighborhood Wal-Mart (10/17/2006 12:57:16 AM)

Fast Reply:

A fascinating article on Walmart.  It is lengthy but if you can get to the bottom of the article, you will see Walmart's effect on products such as Rubbermaid, Levi Strauss, GE, Masterlock, etc., and all the thousands of jobs lost due to forced outsourcing to low cost countries.
http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2003/3044wal-mart.html

An article by USA Today:
http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/retail/2003-01-28-walmartnation_x.htm

Another interesting one by Frontline, from PBS:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/walmart/interviews/bonacich.html

There was mention in another thread that the solution for America was for America to build better products and for Americans to buy them.  Yet if American business is squeezed to outsource, and we as consumers continue to support that...then what?

Hmmm....



UtopianRanger -> RE: Our Friendly Neighborhood Wal-Mart (10/17/2006 3:06:32 AM)

Geo-political military analysts speak about it all the time, how the United States is bungled /short sighted {within the last decade} with regard to long term strategic planning. Some say the average American is much the same way ; they can't /refuse-to see past their nose.

Personally.... I see Wal Mart as the foundation block for the eventual destruction / erosion of the middle class as we now know it - How social engineers brainwash us and redefine it later, is completely a different story.


But I'll leave it up for you to decide, Girlie, as half those who've made a contribution to this thread clearly think Wal Mart is a wonderful thing. [;)] LMAO!




 - R



cuddleheart50 -> RE: Our Friendly Neighborhood Wal-Mart (10/17/2006 3:13:22 AM)

I don't think Wal-Mart is a wonderful thing, its just convienent.  I really do hate going in there but, when you don't have very many choices where you live, you sometimes have to go.



MizSuz -> RE: Our Friendly Neighborhood Wal-Mart (10/17/2006 5:31:50 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Saratov

If a man walks into a party and sees another man wearing an identical suit he doesn't go hide or run home. [8|]


<smile> Neither do confident women.



MizSuz -> RE: Our Friendly Neighborhood Wal-Mart (10/17/2006 6:04:11 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LTRsubNW

Well, I think you, among all people know all too well, with both of my companies growing at between 50% & 200% annually over a 3 year period...regardless of clothing (or in spite of it)...I seem to have an amazing and undeniable ability to convince other people to give me theirs (money, that is).
 
As my father once told me "Son...fuck those idiots that tell you 'clothes make the man...man makes the clothes, and always has....anyone that differs with you...show 'em your bank account"
 
(I'm just fine with that).
 
So far it appears to be working. [:D]



Well, I can't argue with your success nor with your father's truism.  You, above all others, knows the audience you are interacting with and I'm quite sure that Wal-mart is perfectly adequate for your audience, especially if you think so.

But put a couple of those really nice shirts in your closet, right next to the pinstripe jacket AND pants, and keep them there for the presentations and meetings you have with executives, politicians and others who might know the difference.  Consider it a tool for leveling the psychological playing field (and I'm not talking about your psycho....er....psyche).  They're also nice to have around for that very special date.





Aileen68 -> RE: Our Friendly Neighborhood Wal-Mart (10/17/2006 6:06:04 AM)

I don't think Walmart is wonderful. Just like Cuddle said, it's convenient.
And when I had wee ones in diapers I never bought them anywhere else.
No one could come close to Walmarts prices on baby supplies.



CrappyDom -> RE: Our Friendly Neighborhood Wal-Mart (10/17/2006 6:44:17 AM)

Just remember that every time you shop there, you help drive a local business into the ground, you force American companies to fire Americans in America and hire child labor in China and you undermine our entire economy.

If you find THAT convenient, then I hope you don't mine 30% inflation in a few years and no decent jobs.



Aileen68 -> RE: Our Friendly Neighborhood Wal-Mart (10/17/2006 7:23:28 AM)

Ok...outside of costco then, where do you recommend people shop?
What company these days even remotely sells the majority of their products that are made in this country.  I would gladly support them.



ownedgirlie -> RE: Our Friendly Neighborhood Wal-Mart (10/17/2006 8:25:13 AM)

It's not just that the products are made outside this country; it is that WalMart forces companies to do so. WalMart is the reason you don't see Rubbermaid much anymore. They had to lay off 11,000 workers in this country because WalMart refused to stock their products after an unsuccessful negotiation in which Rubbermaid could not afford to drop their prices to that which WalMart dictated, without going overseas to outsource. 

Several other product lines can share similar stories.  WalMart and its convenience is driving our jobs away by dictating what is sold and at how much.

And people have trouble with Bill Gates' approach?



Nikolette -> RE: Our Friendly Neighborhood Wal-Mart (10/17/2006 8:34:18 AM)

Just sort of a general reply to the OP......

I worked at wal-mart when I was a teen and had a very mixed experience. First of all they required people to take their breaks. ESPECIALLY Highschool aged employees. But they were ALSO infamous for keeping employees at part time hours and firing them for really piss poor reasons at their three month follow up. This was to keep from having to give them their next raise and to avoid having to pay out benefits. Many people stopped working there when that became clear. But many OTHER people continued to work there and tried to get into the specific politics of that location and got raises. This was because it was a town of about 20,000 people. In my town if Wal-Mart went out of business a few hundred employees wouldn't be able to eat, live in their home, or take care of their children.

I still shop at Wal-Mart when I go home (there are NO wal-marts in downtown Boston where I live- but there ARE a lot of unemployed homeless people. *shrugs* maybe a cheaper place to shop would do the area some good. I know that more expensive chains are certainly getting awfully rich here because there is NO alternative) and I will continue to shop there, even though I don't agree with the particular methods of running this wal-mart in my home town.

I know some people scoffed at the idea that walmart is only people's option- but seriously in my town it IS. Unless you want to buy second hand clothes at the Salvation Army. Or rely on something being on clearance else where (iffy at best).

Although I definitely agree with the person who suggested NOT using the automatic checkout things at walmart. I know that people lost their job to them in the walmart I worked at.




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