Chaingang
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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania
.... we both like to support American made merchandise
Hell yeah!
I like to know that I am supporting my neighbors. I am patriotic as hell that way. I don't wave the flag, I am not christian, I am not a right-winger. But hell yes I buy American whenever I can.
I always shop city level for goods and services. If I can't find what I need I go to the county, region or state level. Then I search nationally. Then I prefer to work with countries where the standard of living and human rights are approximate to my own. Etc.
I prefer whenever possible to avoid using products made in countries where the human rights I enjoy are routinely violated. I cannot personally vouch for the veracity of the stories but one hears thing about workers in China and elsewhere that are just appalling - things like union workers terrorized by the threat or the actuality of rape and maiming, child workers, wildly unsafe conditions, etc. Not so surprisingly I hope, I won't support that kind of bullshit. You shouldn't support that kind of crap either.
So look at your shoes or your shirt and consider what it took to make it at the price paid. Don't you care if part of the price paid was in human suffering?
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ORIGINAL: UtopianRanger
Scenario number 2} We stay on the same path and continue to merge our populace with that of the third world. In the short term we get cheap goods...in the long term we see the incremental erosion of the middle class /greater separation in classes...
Utopian and I are on the same political path with this stuff. Think what you like, but we are economic patriots - which is probably the only way that actually matters. For the U.S. to work properly it needs a robust middle class. Without that middle class we are serfs on the land, taxed and used for our cheap labor for the benefit of a wealthy elite.
Freedom is meaningless when you must barter it away for bread and water.
I also honestly believe that there are forces at work that would love to see the U.S. fall to a third world level. Those forces are supra-national, the constituent members will just live comfortably elsewhere after the U.S. has its economic collapse. They might live elsewhere right now.
You have to plan ahead. You can't just think of what's best for the next few decades until you die and then it's someone else's problem. I like to plan my economic and political choices like a good businessman who is into it generationally - I want what's good for today, good for tomorrow, and what might just be good for ever after.
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RE: Our Friendly Neighborhood Wal-Mart - 
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. I even found a couple of places to buy blue jeans still made here, guess it's goodbye, Levis. And Google "made in America", you'll find some more places.
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