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RE: Tattoos and piercings - 10/15/2006 5:59:41 PM   
Silvermoon


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Status: offline 		He took them out in your sleep? Um HELLO?

Sounds to me like you've done more of the talking and he's done more of 'my way, my way'. You had them when the two of you met, he should have realized then, they were a part of you. It's like meeting a stripper at the strip bar, getting married then telling her to quit.

If the relationship is going to end over piercings are tattoos it's really not that stable to begin with.

The wonderful thing about piercings is that they AREN'T permnant. And personally, I've never had a nipple ring, hood ring or any other piercing scar. If it infects too often or gets repierced too often it's possible. Most times you'll have a fine white line. With a nipple piercing however it IS possible if you only have one done, that nipple becomes slightly larger than the other.

Personally, I'd go for it. Besides, the more you think about it, the more likely you are to go overboard when you finally decide to go ahead. Much like binge eating on a diet.

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RE: Tattoos and piercings - 10/15/2006 6:00:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think that what we think is immaterial... you are not in a relationship with us.  If you don't believe the issue has been discussed to your satisfaction, then you need to be talking to your partner.  If you're in a power exchange relationship and he has made a decision, he probably expects you to live with it (but I'm not a mind reader).
 
You're barking up the wrong tree here, we have no answers for you.

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RE: Tattoos and piercings - 10/15/2006 6:29:30 PM   
siamsa24


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Silvermoon

It's like meeting a stripper at the strip bar, getting married then telling her to quit.



Heehee, that kind of happened too (sort of)

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RE: Tattoos and piercings - 10/15/2006 6:32:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Rover

I think that what we think is immaterial... you are not in a relationship with us.  If you don't believe the issue has been discussed to your satisfaction, then you need to be talking to your partner.  If you're in a power exchange relationship and he has made a decision, he probably expects you to live with it (but I'm not a mind reader).
 
You're barking up the wrong tree here, we have no answers for you.

John


I disagree, I have gotten good advice and opinions.  I was not looking for people to tell me what to do, but rather looking for people's opinions on the matter.  I always get good advice and opinions here and that is all that I am looking for.

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RE: Tattoos and piercings - 10/15/2006 6:38:40 PM   
nikaa


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Status: offline 		I disagree. This is a discussion forum. What I saw her doing was trying to have a discussion with others about an issue that she is encountering. That does not mean she is going to blindly follow what me, you, or the guy next door have to say, however; sometimes we all need outside view points simply because we are to close to a situation to see the big picture.
 
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RE: Tattoos and piercings - 10/15/2006 6:42:08 PM   
Rover


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Status: offline 		Of course, we all see things from our own perspective.  In my own relationships, my opinion and my girl's opinion are the only two that count (and mine prevails).  If she were to ever tell me that "so and so says", or if I were to learn that she was soliciting opinions in a public venue, I would suggest that she pack her bags and move in with her new Master.
 
But as you say, we all see things differently and I was simply adding my two cents.
 
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RE: Tattoos and piercings - 10/15/2006 6:45:04 PM   
nikaa


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ORIGINAL: Rover

Of course, we all see things from our own perspective.  In my own relationships, my opinion and my girl's opinion are the only two that count (and mine prevails).  If she were to ever tell me that "so and so says", or if I were to learn that she was soliciting opinions in a public venue, I would suggest that she pack her bags and move in with her new Master.
 
But as you say, we all see things differently and I was simply adding my two cents.
 
John


If this is your veiw on public venues such as this why are you part of one?
 
Nika

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RE: Tattoos and piercings - 10/15/2006 6:49:09 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Rover

Of course, we all see things from our own perspective.  In my own relationships, my opinion and my girl's opinion are the only two that count (and mine prevails).  If she were to ever tell me that "so and so says", or if I were to learn that she was soliciting opinions in a public venue, I would suggest that she pack her bags and move in with her new Master.
 
But as you say, we all see things differently and I was simply adding my two cents.
 
John


In my relationship he encourages me to participate in discussions here on the forums.  I would never bring up what someone else says in our conversations, they are not here, they don't know us. 
I agree with nikaa, I think that I am too close to this right now (it has been on my mind for a while) and I need some help seeing it from the outside.

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RE: Tattoos and piercings - 10/15/2006 6:50:09 PM   
Rover


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Status: offline 		I refuse to believe that you do not recognize the difference between soliciting opinions on the specifics of one's relationship for the purpose of obtaining "amunition" to manipulate a desired result, and discussing the nature of power exchange relationships in general.
 
John
 
P.S. - For all the worthless lip service given to how each relationship is unique and what we think about it shouldn't matter, when the rubber meets the road gossip seems to win out.

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RE: Tattoos and piercings - 10/15/2006 6:54:46 PM   
siamsa24


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Status: offline 		Ok, let's put on the brakes for a moment.  I'm afraid that you don't know me well enough to say that I am using other people's opinions as "ammunution" or use "manipulation" to get what I want.  How can you even think that you know my intentions and what I am thinking? You are making assumptions about me and my relationship and even my morals.  I don't appreciate that.

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RE: Tattoos and piercings - 10/15/2006 7:00:41 PM   
TheShadows


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Status: offline 		Both of my nipples are scarred from being pierced twice, just for the record. 

I, too, am very passionate about my body art and would be unwilling to stop getting tattooed or pierced to fit someone else's likes or dislikes when this other someone knew from the get-go that I am interested in them, and have them.

He's either willing to accept it, or he's not.  You're either willing to stop, or you're not.

Best of Luck,

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RE: Tattoos and piercings - 10/15/2006 7:03:39 PM   
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ORIGINAL: siamsa24 
Should I just resist my urges to get body modifications just because he doesn't like them?


I respectfully submit that you are asking for the kind of advice that only has meaning from your Dominant.  The replies are judgments from people who do not know you personally (just like me).  Unlike the others, I'm directing you to the one person who DOES know you personally, your Dominant. 

When we first met I had about six piercings and one tattoo, now all of my piercings are gone with the exception of my ears and he hates my tattoo and doesn't want me to get another.
 
Evidently he has made a decision and  you are not happy with it.  You're not asking how to handle it, or how to reconcile your desires with his decision.  You asked specifically if, despite his decision, you should abide by it. 
 
If he's comfortable with you coming to a public bulletin board every time you're not happy with one of his decisions, then who am I to say otherwise.  Enjoy.
 
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RE: Tattoos and piercings - 10/15/2006 7:08:20 PM   
siamsa24


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Status: offline 		There are questions that are not really ment to be answered specifically, and that is one of them.  Perhaps you do not understand why I came here to ask this question.  I am simply asking for opinions regarding the situation, I will handle it in the way that I see fit.  He does not control my life, I do not ask his permission for most of what I do.  This is a situation, however, where I would like to respect his wishes and opinions, but I am also conflicted.
This is not a power-exchange type relationship.  He does not control my life or my choices. 

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RE: Tattoos and piercings - 10/15/2006 7:21:18 PM   
nikaa


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Rover

quote:

ORIGINAL: siamsa24 
Should I just resist my urges to get body modifications just because he doesn't like them?


I respectfully submit that you are asking for the kind of advice that only has meaning from your Dominant.  The replies are judgments from people who do not know you personally (just like me).  Unlike the others, I'm directing you to the one person who DOES know you personally, your Dominant. 

When we first met I had about six piercings and one tattoo, now all of my piercings are gone with the exception of my ears and he hates my tattoo and doesn't want me to get another.
 
Evidently he has made a decision and  you are not happy with it.  You're not asking how to handle it, or how to reconcile your desires with his decision.  You asked specifically if, despite his decision, you should abide by it. 
 
If he's comfortable with you coming to a public bulletin board every time you're not happy with one of his decisions, then who am I to say otherwise.  Enjoy.
 
John

 
In my opinion you make ALOT of assumptions. You assume that they are in a TPE relationship or that the dynamic of their relationships are  the same as yours.
 
You also assume that simply just because YOU would not allow your submissive/slave to post questions in forums such as this that that her partner would / should take issue with it.
 
You assume that she is looking for ammunition to use against him to get "her way".
 
You assume that you are the ONLY one that has suggested that she communicate with her partner(Daddy) about this.
 
You assume that she comes here to air her dirty laundry every time she doesn't get her way.
 
I ask you this Rover, did you bother to read any of this thread. Truly read what she or anyone else said or did you simply read what you wanted to read?
 
siamsa,
 
I urge you to remember that the dynamics of YOUR relationship may not be dynamics of mine or anyone else, but they are yours. I would also urge you to remember to be open and honest withyourself and your Daddy about even this. Weather or not it is a TPE relationship, M/s, D/s vanilla is irrelevant without communication there is nothing.
 
Blessed Be,
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RE: Tatoos and piercings - 10/15/2006 7:25:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		Compromise if you can. You  have needs and so does he, compromise and negotiation makes, or lack of, breaks a relationship. He needs to understand its very important to you and perhaps if he is in on the selection process that will make it go better.

Good luck
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RE: Tattoos and piercings - 10/15/2006 7:28:16 PM   
Rover


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Status: offline 		nikaa, I assume that you recognized that she asked for opinions, and I gave mine just as you gave yours.  If you wish to engage in debate about our mutual opinions, I'd be pleased to oblige.  If instead you wish to debate the two of us as individuals rather than the ideas we share, I'll decline.
 
John

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RE: Tattoos and piercings - 10/15/2006 7:38:31 PM   
siamsa24


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Status: offline 		And yet you still ignore the fact that you have insulted me. 

I think that this thread has given all that it can at this time.  I thank everyone for their opinions and ideas.

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RE: Tattoos and piercings - 10/15/2006 7:44:50 PM   
nikaa


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Rover

nikaa, I assume that you recognized that she asked for opinions, and I gave mine just as you gave yours.  If you wish to engage in debate about our mutual opinions, I'd be pleased to oblige.  If instead you wish to debate the two of us as individuals rather than the ideas we share, I'll decline.
 
John

 
No offense Rover, but in at least this situation we do not "share" ideas or beleives. Which is perfectly alright with me. *smiles*
 
You say you welcome debate yet when your very own posts spur questions you simply ignore them. (tsk..tsk)
 
As I said earlier you seem to make ALOT of assumptions (that is an observation not an attack by the way).
 
I will say this. Though she asked for opinions that does not give you or anyone else the right to stand on a pedastool and judge her or anyone else for that matter. That is what I take issue with, not your opinion but your judgement. I hope (because I hate to assume) that you know the difference between the two.



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RE: Tattoos and piercings - 10/15/2006 7:47:03 PM   
Rover


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Status: offline 		nikaa, we all judge people and anyone responding in this thread made assumptions and judgments, just as you do about me.  There's nothing wrong with that, it's unavoidable human nature.  What is avoidable is whining about it.
 
John

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RE: Tattoos and piercings - 10/15/2006 8:10:39 PM   
nikaa


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ORIGINAL: Rover

nikaa, we all judge people and anyone responding in this thread made assumptions and judgments, just as you do about me.  There's nothing wrong with that, it's unavoidable human nature.  What is avoidable is whining about it.
 
John

 
Please show me where I assumed anything in this thread or where I or anyone else "whined".
 
My grandmother had a saying, "Remember when you point a finger of judgement at someone else  there are 4 others pointed back at you." I don't judge you Rover, I don't know YOU.Do I have an opinion about you choose to express yourself, yes. However that there is a HUGE diffence between forming an opinion and judging.

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