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RE: Rape Scenerio - 10/16/2006 6:51:50 AM   
MisPandora


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ORIGINAL: Quivver

Humm, well Word... I wasnt so much refering to the ~man~ in general as I was to that over rated meaning of ~ True ~.
Anything is ~ true ~ if you want it to be, and it seems that's something the OP has yet to discover.


Psst, I think TheWord was trolling on your quote:
"I want the kind of Man a Woman can trust
when she can no longer trust herself."
and not on what you said to the OP,
but that's just my interpretation. 
After all, you said nothing about "man"
and that's what he picked up on.

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RE: Rape Scenerio - 10/16/2006 6:55:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		Any scene is/should be negotiated in some way beforehand. Anyone who tells you this is the way it is no exceptions, is someone to be wary of/avoid. What we do is consensual and, at least in my view all parties involved should be enjoying it, getting something out of it. It's a two way street. Just my thoughts.

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RE: Rape Scenerio - 10/16/2006 7:00:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		No, it's not. There really is very little information in your post to go on, and that leaves a lot of pertinent questions. You said "a" Dom...is this man someone you know very well and have established a strong trust with? Is this man your Dom or Master? Is this rape scenario something that is wanted or consented to by you? What is the motivation for doing such a scene....kink....or a way to resolve a past attack on you?

Rape scenes are very tricky ground. When done right they can be very fulfilling....when done wrong they can be extremely damaging. I would suggest to you that it is not something you may want to rush into without a great deal of thought, planning and discussion. It is essential to clearly define the boundaries.

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RE: Rape Scenerio - 10/16/2006 7:27:48 AM   
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ORIGINAL: AngelfaceDallas

I was told by a dom that during a rape scene...he can do whatever he wants, and said anal is expected. Is this true?

What are everyone's thoughts about this?


yeah, i'd love to see the context in which he said this. i can't help finding the "anal is expected" thing amusing. like, did he mean expected by him or expected in general?

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RE: Rape Scenerio - 10/16/2006 7:33:19 AM   
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ORIGINAL: AngelfaceDallas

I was told by a dom that during a rape scene...he can do whatever he wants, and said anal is expected. Is this true?

What are everyone's thoughts about this?



I'm not sure if ANYTHING should be Expected, I still think you have to negotiate the scene just as you would any other.
Oh and btw, "Limits"-yours to be precise, does the Dom know them, will he respect them?.


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RE: Rape Scenerio - 10/16/2006 10:24:45 AM   
charismagirrl


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Status: offline 		It's hard to really be certain because of the lack of detail in your post....Are you a slave to this Dom? or Is he a brand new play partner for you? Is he talking of something in the distant future? So many options are left open for interpretation.

my Daddy/Master and i engage in rape play quite alot and anal rape play has become a favorite. When we first started this type of play  he said  what koimizu said "A real rapist wouldn't care about what you think would he?" And although this guy is getting called a creep maybe he isn't (my Daddy sure isn't at all)...  So i can only speak from my experience and that is the experience of a slave.

We had negotiated  in the beginning about anal, and i had a tremendous fear of it. my Daddy said he'd allow that as a limit for awhile but said that it would be pushed and that eventually he would take it from me. The agreement was there that it would be pushed and that it would ultimately not be an alllowed limit. Leading up to this  he would touch me there and i'd cringe or pull away or even say "No please Daddy"  (which was something i learned not to say)...He took his time and allowed me to slowly warm up to it but then the time came that he was GOING to do it, the choice was taken from me (but deep down i could've said no and accepted the punishment for it).

As frightened as i was the first few times  it's become something i really love to do. The important things are that  my Daddy watches my reactions (physically and emotionally) and  does what is right when it's right.

So can you  maybe post and give a few more details about  this?

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RE: Rape Scenerio - 10/16/2006 10:59:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		Rape scene does not mean that he doesn t have to respect your limits limits are limits no matter the scene!!!

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RE: Rape Scenerio - 10/16/2006 11:18:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		My Master and I have talked about this in-depth over the last few weeks.  He said the same thing to me "a rapist wouldn't ask if something were okay", and my Master is far away from being a bad person.  What he meant was, we will talk about things before the time, but once it gets here, what we agreed upon stands.  I respect this and know that I can open my mouth anytime beforehand and tell him there is something I would rather not be done during it.  I know that my Master would never hurt me, like the real rapist did, and that is enough for me.  We have agreed that I will know the month it will happen, or even the week, but not the actual time.  I won't have a safeword during this time, but I know that Master will watch my reactions and make sure I am handling things fine.  I told him in return, that I would fight back, so he had better be prepared for it also. 
 
I am hoping this will help me with my past rape in some way, though I don't know if it will.  I am curious what it will give to me, or how I will react to anything going on.  I have no doubt though, that if Master saw I was honestly being traumatized, he would stop. 
 
This is nothing to do with someone you don't have complete and total trust in.  I personally think that if a Dom I didn't even know that well brought it up to me, I would seriously rethink the whole relationship.  It's a license to have fun, to explore, not a license to actually rape someone.
 
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RE: Rape Scenerio - 10/16/2006 11:22:16 AM   
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A rape scene is whatever you consent to.  If you do not consent to anal and then they do it - that is actual rape.
If anyone says... 'Its meant to be this way'... then red flag it.
Lots of discussion before hand... lots of making sure you share hard limits.  And above all, 'enjoy' the experience.
 
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RE: Rape Scenerio - 10/16/2006 11:32:05 AM   
Mavis


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Status: offline 		This falls under "Usually, but not always, your milage may vary" 

A lot of times,   rape scenes are suggsted by the sub/slave/bottom to explore something in her past, to deal with old wounds in a safe place, stuff like that.  It *usually* only comes up once one has a partner they trust VERY much. 

Things to consider... if you personally have a history of abuse or been a rape victim, this can be a really empowering scene, but as you can guess, the danger is always there for flashbacks and panic to come up, and the Dominant not realising there is more going on than consentual struggle.  a bottom in a rape scene can go from wrapped up in the scene to wrapped up in her own terrors in seconds.. and the Dominant partner needs to know how to read that and respond properly immediately.  Under that type of scenario, i would save this type of scene for a very well fleshed out relationship with excellent communication skills.

Something mentioned less often is when a Dominant wants to explore safely something He would never ever do in real life.   The bottom here has to ALSO watch, because at some point, societal conditioning could kick in, and the guy flips out on "Waht the fuck am I doing?  Is this animal actually a part of Me?"   Self-loathing can be a heavy hit on the Dominant psyche and undermind His ability to trust Himself as a Top, and will cause issues for the couple as far as play-time goes.  Under that type of scenario, i would hope the bottom has a lot of experience with reading the Top's headspace, and aftercare for Dominants. 

In any case, as others have mentioned, this type of thing takes a LOT more planning and communication and trust than a school girl spanking scene. 

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RE: Rape Scenerio - 10/16/2006 11:41:16 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: AngelfaceDallas

I was told by a dom that during a rape scene...he can do whatever he wants, and said anal is expected. Is this true?


This part's easy....NO. 
 
quote:

What are everyone's thoughts about this?


To mirror others here...he's got some problems with "rules" and "expectations" and the whole "coercion" bit.  To go further...why would anal be an expected part of a rape scene?  There are plenty of real-life rapes that occur without anal sex being involved.  The rapist assaults the woman vaginally with no oral or anal assault, sometimes vaginally and orally but with no anal assault, sometimes all three.  There is no set "rule" regarding what to expect sexually during a real rape...why would there be one in a "planned rape" scene?


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RE: Rape Scenerio - 10/16/2006 2:28:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		Another term for it is "Forced Sex Role Play".  The key words there are "ROLE PLAY".  He wants to ROLE PLAY being a Rapist and desires the leading lady, the one PLAYING the Victim, to be willing to allow herself to be taken anally by force.  You yourself are not bound by any rules or laws anywhere to allow yourself to be taken anally unless you agree to it beforehand. 

If you are ever taken anally against your will, it is RAPE, which is a felony in most states.  And if you do not want to be raped, please don't put yourself in a situation where it could happen.  I'd be steering very clear of this guy, at least until you know him well enough to know what his intentions really are.

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RE: Rape Scenerio - 10/16/2006 2:37:51 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: AngelfaceDallas

I was told by a dom that during a rape scene...he can do whatever he wants, and said anal is expected. Is this true?

What are everyone's thoughts about this?


A rape scene is a huge fantasy of mine and one that I have yet to experience.  I would only consider it with someone that I was extremely comfortable with and my only requirements would be that I not wind up dead and a condom would be required.  That being said, to negotiate beforehand the rules would cause the scene to loose all appeal to me  The biggest aspect for me in this kind of scene is the total loss of control and choice.  If I know that XYZ is off limits, then mentally I'm already out of there.  That's why trust in your partner is so vital for this kind of play...at least for me. 

edited to add...if he can go for gold you can bet your ass that I'm going to fight like hell during that scene.  To me that makes it even more appealing.

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RE: Rape Scenerio - 10/16/2006 2:51:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have to agree with everyone, you should try this rape "scene" (consensual role play as someone appropiately called it) only with a Dom you really trust and know very well....someone you feel comfortable with in my opinion. And like everyone else said, no one requires you to be raped or be probed anally, there are no protocols to this or anything else, except to follow common sense, guard your safety, and to agree on evrything before hand....like many have said on here, you don't have to know "when" it will happen, but you will be assured that any limits if any will be respected between the both of you.

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RE: Rape Scenerio - 10/16/2006 2:55:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		NO,  limits are limits in a rape scene just as in any scene.

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RE: Rape Scenerio - 10/16/2006 3:12:30 PM   
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RE: Rape Scenerio - 10/16/2006 3:47:20 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Aileen68

A rape scene is a huge fantasy of mine and one that I have yet to experience.  I would only consider it with someone that I was extremely comfortable with and my only requirements would be that I not wind up dead and a condom would be required.  That being said, to negotiate beforehand the rules would cause the scene to loose all appeal to me  The biggest aspect for me in this kind of scene is the total loss of control and choice.  If I know that XYZ is off limits, then mentally I'm already out of there.  That's why trust in your partner is so vital for this kind of play...at least for me. 


I agree.  I have often fantasized about it myself, but to have control of the situation like that seems to take away from it.  I would even not put the condom bit in, but of course i'm a guy, so don't have to worry about getting pregnant, and if you trust someone enough to agree to do this with them, then obviously they won't leave you dead (lol).  You have to trust them literally with your life.  Don't do this with someone you don't trust like that.  Also, if you do have such limits, and it doesn't take away from the fantasy for you, then yes, of course they have to respect your limits.  otherwise, like was said before: it is rape, not a rape scene.

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RE: Rape Scenerio - 10/16/2006 4:21:24 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MisPandora

quote:

ORIGINAL: Quivver

Psst, I think TheWord was trolling on your quote:
"I want the kind of Man a Woman can trust
when she can no longer trust herself."
and not on what you said to the OP,
but that's just my interpretation. 
After all, you said nothing about "man"
and that's what he picked up on.


Oh DUH.......... another blond moment..  Grrr see what happens when I have had only half a cup of coffee!! 
............ ok back on track now, and back to the OP.  Just remember if it makes you squcky or you have reservations, dont go there.



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RE: Rape Scenerio - 10/20/2006 1:31:42 AM   
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(nevermind;maybe , i, just  lost my mind for a moment.)

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RE: Rape Scenerio - 10/20/2006 2:50:08 AM   
mons


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i will be truthful and say this is something that is touchy with me i do not know how it is done you may go to the master site on here and ask, now my reason not knowing what to say is a dear no two dear friend were both raped they were beaten so badly i could hardly see their faces rape is a none sexual thing it is about control and power. but when it is really done to someone by a strange they never forget it nor do they live long both are not passed away both had alochol and drugs problem they were older then i and back then and even now the women are treat as the suspect and it hard no was there each slowly drink and had prescrition drug both found alone and gone, so it not my thing to even give advice i hope you find the right dom .
 
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