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RE: Rape Scenerio - 10/20/2006 2:36:11 PM   
Morrigel


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Status: offline 		I am sorry to hear that, mons.  Indeed, many of us have hard limits based on deeply felt sadness--past experiences which make it impossible to turn certain concepts/ideas into a "scene".  One of mine is a Nazi uniform; it's just not a symbol that will ever equal "sexy fun time" in my mind.  OnceI saw the number tattooed on the arm of someone I loved as a child, it was impossible to ever equate those camps with anything pleasurable or harmless as an adult.

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RE: Rape Scenerio - 10/20/2006 4:14:14 PM   
DevilsVendetta


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Status: offline 		Basically, following the same logic I have come to this conclusion:

Being a rape scene, I have the right to break your arms so that you may not fight back, knock you unconcious and potentially kill you. These are all very real facts of rape.

What your "Master" described is not a rape scene, it is essentially rape.

Dump the dumbass in my opinion, that's a sure sign of either idiocy on his part, or an obvious lack of respect towards you. Worst things will follow, get out.


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RE: Rape Scenerio - 10/20/2006 7:54:59 PM   
AngelfaceDallas


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Status: offline 		I actually saved the whole conversation (more to it then what I posted)

He is a dominant fellow CM member, that lives in my city.

When the conversation turned to what may or may not happen between us, and the anal part of the conversation turned up this is what was said:

HIM: well i can understand your thoughts...did you enjoy it..I mean the act of it?
ME: anal sex- no.
HIM: ok....
HIM: well if you have a rape scenario, then anal sex will be involved
ME: it doesnt HAVE to be.. why do you say that?
HIM: because if you want to keep it somewhat true then that has to be in there...
HIM: the use of everyhole...
HIM: the total use...
HIM: that is what is envolved in a rape scenario....

He is not someone I know, never met. I told him that limit of mine, no anal- but he asked me my fantasy, but said anal would be required (read above).

Thats the whole reason why I was asking on the board here.
Thank you for all of your replys.

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RE: Rape Scenerio - 10/20/2006 7:58:05 PM   
RedSavageSlave


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Status: offline 		Reminds me of the first dom I was with real time.. He tried to force me to believe that all submissives had to agree to bisexuality.. <sheesh>

whatever happened to letting us be who and what we are..??

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RE: Rape Scenerio - 10/20/2006 9:01:08 PM   
Lordandmaster


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Status: offline 		My thought is that a "rape scene" is not rape.  Think about the difference, and you'll come to the right answer all by yourself.

quote:

ORIGINAL: AngelfaceDallas

What are everyone's thoughts about this?

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RE: Rape Scenerio - 10/20/2006 10:36:29 PM   
dirtycherri


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Status: offline 		i think if you are wanting the rape scenerio anything goes

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RE: Rape Scenerio - 10/21/2006 7:24:14 AM   
CuteIrishM4F


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Status: offline 		 Windstorm [as long as the scene is consensual, then yes you can do anything.  however if a sub has a problem, then a safeword must be uttered as to discuss, if not stop, the scene immediately.]
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Becca333 [Anal is great, but it HAS to be done carefully and gently.  If you want to try anal, I really don't advise you to get your introduction during  rape-play.]

These guys are in part right. Anal has to be slow with lots of lube. You cant just tear into it (no pun intended, but you get my meaning!). A scene like this needs to be carefully worked out beforehand. Be careful.

a.

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RE: Rape Scenerio - 10/21/2006 7:56:54 AM   
Amaros


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Aileen68

quote:

ORIGINAL: AngelfaceDallas

I was told by a dom that during a rape scene...he can do whatever he wants, and said anal is expected. Is this true?

What are everyone's thoughts about this?


A rape scene is a huge fantasy of mine and one that I have yet to experience.  I would only consider it with someone that I was extremely comfortable with and my only requirements would be that I not wind up dead and a condom would be required.  That being said, to negotiate beforehand the rules would cause the scene to loose all appeal to me  The biggest aspect for me in this kind of scene is the total loss of control and choice.  If I know that XYZ is off limits, then mentally I'm already out of there.  That's why trust in your partner is so vital for this kind of play...at least for me. 

edited to add...if he can go for gold you can bet your ass that I'm going to fight like hell during that scene.  To me that makes it even more appealing.


This is probobly what makes this the most difficult fantasy to properly play out - it ought properly be negiotiated to death, and yet the more negotiation, the less spontaneous it is. What MisPandora said about non-verbal communication, etc., definitely applies.

In terms of the OP, it sounds like the Doms' rape fantasy that he wants to play out, and anal is definitely in there - reading the clues I'd say now is the time to make you feelings known, otherwise, lube up and get ready to have your eyes crossed.

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RE: Rape Scenerio - 10/21/2006 8:04:29 AM   
orfunboi


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Status: offline 		If anal sex is a hard limit for you, then that should be respected. If you can't trust him to respect your limits, then you should not be playing with him.

You should also make sure he is aware of exactly what your limits are before you enter a scene.

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RE: Rape Scenerio - 10/21/2006 9:32:15 AM   
Circa


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Status: offline 		Dear Angel:  Most subs have hard limits.  Hard limits are meant to be respected.  If the Dom is not willing to respect your hard limits, find another one.  He should (first and foremost) have your comfort, wishes, and desires in mind before any play commences.  Before you get into such a scene, it is good to talk about it first.  If he won't respect your wishes he may not respect you....find out first...enjoy later.  Hope I have answered your question.
C

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RE: Rape Scenerio - 10/21/2006 10:29:13 AM   
Nosathro


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Status: offline 		Tal and greetings
 
Several years ago thru a mutual friend I was approached by a woman who wanted to experience a kidnap/rape fantasy.  I agreed to doing so and the three of us worked out all the details including limits of all.  It went very well and she enjoyed experiencing her fantasy.  I will say I also enjoyed it as well.  I do think it did so well was through planing by the three of us.
 
I wish you well
 
Nosathro

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RE: Rape Scenerio - 10/21/2006 3:14:51 PM   
speednut


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Status: offline 		I have to agree with most of the other posters here. Communication is paramount, anyone forcing another to participate in a "scene" is at the least guilty of assault. Keeping it real?  There are many ways, talk it out, find out how far a sub wants to be taken, then choose a random time for it to take place. By all means allow for down time, as suc play can be very intense for all involved.

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RE: Rape Scenerio - 10/29/2006 11:14:09 PM   
AngelfaceDallas


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Status: offline 		Thank you all for your in put. I have decided not to continue communicating with that dom.

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