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Transparency button? - 10/16/2006 10:41:58 PM   
Mavis


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Status: offline 		W/we do talk a lot about transparency.  Many big D's say anything an s-type keeps inside is disallowing them valuable information needed to steer the relationship and so on.

subs and slaves try to be forthcoming, and i know there are various levels of comfort with this, but a lot say they at least want to be completely transparent at all times.

But..  if Y/you could install a transparency button and read the minds of Y/your partner, would Y/you?

Big D's, would You install one on Your sub or slave?
Would You agree to wear one as well?

subs and slaves.. would you consent?  would you want your Lead to wear one also?

Switches..  oh hell, pick a hat..  lol. 

i'm not just asking to be obtuse, i really want to know,  what do W/we really feel about our thought-life, and how much do we shield our loved ones from every random thought because we're just not always thinking just wonderful stuff.  If every random thought were available to our partners without the benefit of sifting and forming it to communicate it verbally, would it be better for us, or worse?

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RE: Transparency button? - 10/16/2006 10:53:54 PM   
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quote:

But..  if Y/you could install a transparency button and read the minds of Y/your partner, would Y/you?

Big D's, would You install one on Your sub or slave?
Would You agree to wear one as well?

subs and slaves.. would you consent?  would you want your Lead to wear one also?



I would not want to see the thoughts of my Daddy, nor would I want him to see all my thoughts. I would not have this hypothetical device installed.

The biggest reason, it would make it too easy to dominate me, and nothing worth having is easy to get, my thoughts and my submission are worth having. I do think that we are defined by the effort we put into our lives, and I would not want that effort reduced to some external labor saving device.

It is also just creepy....lol



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RE: Transparency button? - 10/16/2006 11:04:13 PM   
ownedgirlie


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Status: offline 		I thought this thread might be about see-through pants :)

I tell him everything anyway, except for the mundane boring stuff he doesn't really care about.  If I had to guess, I'd say he'd rather hear/see/read me express my thoughts and feelings, as opposed to downloading them via a button.  Part of my submission to him is being willing to tell him everything - even the dark, scary, embarrassing stuff. I think sometimes he has enjoyed witnessing my struggle with myself as I pushed myself to "go on and say it" even when it was most uncomfortable to do so.  And then for me, to see so very clearly that it was SAFE to say that....well that created a much stronger bond than a downloadable button would have.

I would never have access to such a button on him, as I do not receive the same transparancy in kind.  He shares with me what he wants to share with me, when he wants to share it....or not.  This is where trust and faith comes in.  He imparts information to me as he deems necessary.  Had I read his thoughts early on in my submission to him, they would have scared the hell out of me!  There are things I am glad I didn't know, until I was able to handle them.  So no, I would not ask for such a button. :)

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RE: Transparency button? - 10/16/2006 11:05:28 PM   
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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania
It is also just creepy....lol


LOL I agree.  Makes me think of some bizarre sci-fi....  (that guy looks like an alien to me)

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RE: Transparency button? - 10/16/2006 11:09:43 PM   
juliaoceania


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ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie

quote:

ORIGINAL: juliaoceania
It is also just creepy....lol


LOL I agree.  Makes me think of some bizarre sci-fi....  (that guy looks like an alien to me)


Howabout this one

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RE: Transparency button? - 10/16/2006 11:18:56 PM   
ownedgirlie


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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania


Howabout this one

LOL Is that a teletubby?? 
OK, let's not hijack Mavis' thread.  I'm curious to see other replies :)

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RE: Transparency button? - 10/16/2006 11:20:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Mavis
But..  if Y/you could install a transparency button and read the minds of Y/your partner, would Y/you?

Sure.  Due to my intuition and keen senses, I'm already accused of being a "reader" on quite a regular basis by my partners. 

quote:

Big D's, would You install one on Your sub or slave?
Would You agree to wear one as well?

Absolutely.

I think the people who worry about "transparency" are the ones who have the most trouble communicating and just going with the process.

The ones who are solid in their communication skills don't need to worry and bother about "transparency."  They are already secure where they need to be and everything can be worked from there.

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RE: Transparency button? - 10/17/2006 12:16:30 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Mavis

W/we do talk a lot about transparency.  Many big D's say anything an s-type keeps inside is disallowing them valuable information needed to steer the relationship and so on.

subs and slaves try to be forthcoming, and i know there are various levels of comfort with this, but a lot say they at least want to be completely transparent at all times.

But..  if Y/you could install a transparency button and read the minds of Y/your partner, would Y/you?

Big D's, would You install one on Your sub or slave?
Would You agree to wear one as well?

subs and slaves.. would you consent?  would you want your Lead to wear one also?

Switches..  oh hell, pick a hat..  lol. 

i'm not just asking to be obtuse, i really want to know,  what do W/we really feel about our thought-life, and how much do we shield our loved ones from every random thought because we're just not always thinking just wonderful stuff.  If every random thought were available to our partners without the benefit of sifting and forming it to communicate it verbally, would it be better for us, or worse?


I don't think it matters much between Himself and I. We already share the good and bad stuff with each other. The stuff he doesn't want to hear about (like the daily phone calls with my daughter regarding her wedding) are probably not something he'd want 24/7 access to hearing.

Maybe if the button came with an off switch.. that would work. Then he could turn it off when he got bored or tired of reading my mind. As for a button installed in him.. hell, I can already read his mind.. don't need one! ::laughs::

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RE: Transparency button? - 10/17/2006 1:32:49 AM   
agirl


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Status: offline 		I wouldn't like it, for sure.

I have a whole, crazy, comfortable world inside my head that I spend a lot of time in and would detest living in a goldfish bowl. He already seems to know what I'm thinking more of the time than I care for....lol

I also would definitely not want to know HIS every thought.

I like the fact that I really just don't QUITE know which way he'll jump, what he might do or say.........it makes life exciting and constantly interesting.

As for the communication,  if he wants information he has a way of getting it just as I do.......we ask. I wouldn't like to do away with the whole process of *finding out* because it's enjoyable.

agirl




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RE: Transparency button? - 10/17/2006 1:39:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'm transparent to my daddy anyway, and I can't really keep things to myself expesially if they excite me, and yes I have mentioned things that'd be great punishments an he laughs an says don't give me idea's

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RE: Transparency button? - 10/17/2006 2:25:46 AM   
MissyRane


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Status: offline 		I need a certain private space that's hard to let go of, I've let go of it twice though,which I regret but anyhow,
so no I wouldn't like a transparency button nor would I expect my partner to have one.

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RE: Transparency button? - 10/17/2006 4:19:00 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mavis

But..  if Y/you could install a transparency button and read the minds of Y/your partner, would Y/you?


Hearing someone's thoughts, that would be a bit much but having them absolutely unable to lie; that i could live with. Though the truth is in our house we almost always know what the other is thinking anyway.
 
Sometimes Scooter will say something only to hear identical answers or comments from Jewel and i at the same time; when he sighs we gently remind him that HE was the one who wanted two women in the house, lmao.

But this does kind of fits my honesty theory.
 
If the human race woke up in the morning completely unable to lie at first life would be an ugly thing but eventually you would only be surrounded by others who really wanted to be around you. No more YES men either.
 
Think about it, no one wants to hear "yes that dress makes your ass look fat" from a girlfriend they are shopping with. So your friend gives you the little white lie" oh that looks so good on you" and you pay a bunch of money for a dress that really does make your butt look like two Volkswagens racing under a tent.
 
You might have felt better initially but wouldn't you rather have been told the truth so you could have found a dress that complimented your figure? 
 
 

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RE: Transparency button? - 10/17/2006 4:23:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		If a woman could read my mind I would still be a virgin. You just can't stop those honest cruel little thoughts coming into your head.

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RE: Transparency button? - 10/17/2006 4:31:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		No, I wouldn't want it and neither would he. We are both incredibly honest with each other anyway, but there are some thoughts that aren't meant to leave one's head.

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RE: Transparency button? - 10/17/2006 4:41:35 AM   
Serista


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Status: offline 		Transparency is something that happens with time. It is not something that D-types or S-types should try to force because it almost always blows up in someone's face.

My partner and I are both completely trasnsparent, though that was never our intention. We share hopes, dreams, fears, really mean things, impulses, catty thoughts etc. It is just something that has evolved over time, but we also are extremely wrapped up in each other. With the exception of work, almost all of our interactions with the outside world, right or wrong, are together.

If there was a chip installed, I don't think it would matter if it was installed in either one of us.

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RE: Transparency button? - 10/17/2006 4:58:48 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mavis

W/we do talk a lot about transparency. Many big D's say anything an s-type keeps inside is disallowing them valuable information needed to steer the relationship and so on.

subs and slaves try to be forthcoming, and i know there are various levels of comfort with this, but a lot say they at least want to be completely transparent at



I would install one on my boy but not wear one myself. Whoever said something about downloading thoughts hit on the thing that is kind of science fiction-y sexy about the idea. I wouldn't want to know everything all the time, but at my discretion, I would download his thoughts. It's a denial of privacy, an exercise of authority, an intrusion that has D/s written all over it.

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RE: Transparency button? - 10/17/2006 5:05:39 AM   
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quote:

But..  if Y/you could install a transparency button and read the minds of Y/your partner, would Y/you?

Absolutly not. 90% of the fun in a relaionship is discovery of new things.
quote:

  subs and slaves.. would you consent?  would you want your Lead to wear one also?



Once again, the answer is no, I would not want one, nor would I want my partner to have one.

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RE: Transparency button? - 10/17/2006 5:12:20 AM   
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Status: offline 		Watch the Mel Gibson movie "What women Want". What fun is it to know everything. After a while people would shun you.

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RE: Transparency button? - 10/17/2006 5:25:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		Personally i think a button such as this could come in handy in some cases, like when i’m trying to explain how I feel about something to Sir, but just can’t spit it out or in a way that gets my point across. There are other times though when my first thoughts aren’t exactly what I mean but once He’s gained knowledge of them it is tricky to say “Well yea i thought that, but that’s not exactly what i meant by it.”, or “i was completely wrong”.

As far as Him having one, again sometimes it would come in handy. We often have two definitions for the same word, if i knew right off what His definition was it might save me a lot of stress from thinking He means the one i’m thinking of. Other times, not knowing would be like the difference between having a gift to open or already having opened it. Sometimes it’s more fun to wonder.

So i would have to say no to both.
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RE: Transparency button? - 10/17/2006 5:37:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		If I was asked to wear one...yes I would....I would feel sorry for him though....my mind/thoughts never seem to turn off....my thoughts are like a work in progress...always building/adding to the last thought....it would probaby be similar to one of those old "Twilight Zones"...where the man can read minds and he is all happy....going around listening into everyone's thoughts...then all of sudden he is holding his ears...(insert dramatical music)....overload of voice/thoughts in his head...and he goes insane...then Rod Serling would come out....."This is what happens when you listen to erudite's thoughts.... see you next time... in the Twilight Zone"....lol...
 

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