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RE: Pro-Dommes, Prostitution, and sexual burnout. - 10/17/2006 12:50:15 PM   
LotusSong


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Status: offline 		For the Pro Dommes:
 
How long have each of your been doing what you do in a Pro capacity

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RE: Pro-Dommes, Prostitution, and sexual burnout. - 10/17/2006 1:22:14 PM   
demistress


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quote:

ORIGINAL: LotusSong

For the Pro Dommes:
 
How long have each of your been doing what you do in a Pro capacity


Lifestyle domme for 12 years, pro for 6 months.  Once my household is established I will be mostly giving up the pro moniker.  That being said, I will continue to run my dungeon, rent out dungeon time/space, do training and erotic personalized videography, and down the road, buy and run my bondage bed and breakfast .  I just won't do as many sessions personally. 

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RE: Pro-Dommes, Prostitution, and sexual burnout. - 10/17/2006 2:28:22 PM   
DiannaVesta


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Status: offline 		I was a professional for 6 years, maybe longer. I still train professionally just not by the hour.

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RE: Pro-Dommes, Prostitution, and sexual burnout. - 10/17/2006 3:03:08 PM   
Morrigel


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quote:

ORIGINAL: WhipTheHip

Due to mistreatment by some male (or many males) in their past, Pro-Dommes
and prostitutes do not seek loving relationships.
 


This is the central premise of your post.  Since it is provably false, in the sense that it is a sweeping generalization which does NOT apply to many members of the two groups you are trying to describe and discuss, none of the rest of your post is worth reading.

Many sex workers, including pro-dommes, have a number of loving and positive relationships in their lives:  including children, boyfriends/husbands, girlfriends/wives, lovers and close personal friends.  Those of us who are fortunate enough to count ourselves in the "friend" category are in a position to know this, which is why we tend to find ignorant statements and the lectures based on them fairly irritating.

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RE: Pro-Dommes, Prostitution, and sexual burnout. - 10/17/2006 3:09:09 PM   
LaTigresse


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Status: offline 		...........moving in a comfy chair, some wine, cheese, whores de vors, help yourselves......cuz this looks to be a long entertaining one.

(plus there are a gorgeous women that keep popping in)

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RE: Pro-Dommes, Prostitution, and sexual burnout. - 10/17/2006 3:12:41 PM   
Morrigel


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Status: offline 		Agreed!  The opportunity to whip the Whip really brings out the hotties! 

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RE: Pro-Dommes, Prostitution, and sexual burnout. - 10/17/2006 3:34:21 PM   
MstrssScarlet


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Status: offline 		I've been a Pro Domme for about a year now.  When I was a lifestyle Domme, I had a lot of trouble finding a sub that had the same interests as I did AND was not attached to a significant other that disapproved.  I was at a private dungeon party one night with my husband and there were a couple of other lifestyle Dommes there listening to me complain about how hard it was to find one that was juuuuusst right.  One of them suggested I become a Pro Domme.  Now to be honest, I had heard so many bad things from other people in the lifestyle about Pro Dommes that I was extremely reluctant.  I will confess right now that I believed what I heard and unfortunately it was only reinforced when I had a run in with a Pro Domme who lacked a few social graces.  Finally, because we needed the money and I was unable to find a "regular" job, I gave it a try.  Well, I love it.  I don't just like it, I LOVE it.  I run into people who enjoy all kinds of different things, I've learned a lot (including tolerance),I have a sub to play with all the time, and I get paid for it.  It just doesn't get any better than that.  I made a vow to myself that I would treat my clients well and "make a reputation for myself" so to speak.  I wanted my clients to enjoy themselves, not walk away feeling like they had been ripped off.  My friends and my husband were all happy for me.  Then I started posting to some of the Pro Domme threads that are always running somewhere in collarme.  I realized that no matter how I conducted myself, I would still be lumped in with every other Pro Domme in the country if not the world.  That's a damn shame.
If money was the only thing that made me happy, I would still be married to my ex.  He made tons of it.  He still does.  But I wasn't happy.  I never cheated on him and I wasn't going to start.  I divorced him and married a man who doesn't make a ton of money, but makes me happy.  We love each other very much and enjoy the lifestyle together.   We enjoy LIFE together.  This hardly fits WTH's train of thought.
Mistress Scarlet 

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RE: Pro-Dommes, Prostitution, and sexual burnout. - 10/17/2006 3:37:09 PM   
Kalira


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Status: offline 		Ok, I have to ask...please explain the difference between lifestyle and pro

I have heard it before, but the way that it is being used here, is making me think that my interpertation was wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy off. Not so much on the pro , but on the lifestyle.

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RE: Pro-Dommes, Prostitution, and sexual burnout. - 10/17/2006 3:39:14 PM   
LotusSong


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Status: offline 		The reason I asked this is that way back, HBO did a special on Pandora's Box in New York City. They interviewed Mistress Raven who managed the place and she said the average active life of a Pro was 2 years before burnout.

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RE: Pro-Dommes, Prostitution, and sexual burnout. - 10/17/2006 4:01:49 PM   
MissyRane


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Status: offline 		Which aspect of the prodomination made them burn out?

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RE: Pro-Dommes, Prostitution, and sexual burnout. - 10/17/2006 4:04:24 PM   
michaelGA2


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Status: offline 		i would start a "submissive burn-out" thread, but people would say i'm whining...again... LOL

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RE: Pro-Dommes, Prostitution, and sexual burnout. - 10/17/2006 4:06:38 PM   
Kalira


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quote:

ORIGINAL: michaelGA2

i would start a "submissive burn-out" thread, but people would say i'm whining...again... LOL

Well Michael, I have not been here for long, but so far, every post of yours that I have read seems to be along those lines. Maybe that is telling you something? Just a thought.

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RE: Pro-Dommes, Prostitution, and sexual burnout. - 10/17/2006 4:08:48 PM   
michaelGA2


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Status: offline 		so...i express my opinions...brats do that...frequently...LOL

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RE: Pro-Dommes, Prostitution, and sexual burnout. - 10/17/2006 4:25:40 PM   
LotusSong


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quote:

ORIGINAL: MissyRane

Which aspect of the prodomination made them burn out?


I guess just the overall aspect of it. If they wanted to get paid they had to tend to the customers.  It might be fun for awhile, but I imagine it makes you rather weary.

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RE: Pro-Dommes, Prostitution, and sexual burnout. - 10/17/2006 4:27:44 PM   
michaelGA2


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maybe they got burned out because their clients credit cards were cancelled...

LOL

(**no Pro-Dommes were injured in the making of this comment and views by this poster are not expressly shared by this network or our other sponsors**)


< Message edited by michaelGA2 -- 10/17/2006 4:30:08 PM >

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RE: Pro-Dommes, Prostitution, and sexual burnout. - 10/17/2006 4:27:52 PM   
LotusSong


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kalira

Ok, I have to ask...please explain the difference between lifestyle and pro

I have heard it before, but the way that it is being used here, is making me think that my interpertation was wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy off. Not so much on the pro , but on the lifestyle.


I've never been clear on that either.....

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RE: Pro-Dommes, Prostitution, and sexual burnout. - 10/17/2006 4:33:56 PM   
Kalira


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Status: offline 		/nods

I had always gone with the assumption that lifestyle=pro

But from listening here, it's obvious that that is not the case, so now...inquiring minds want to know please lol.

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RE: Pro-Dommes, Prostitution, and sexual burnout. - 10/17/2006 4:59:31 PM   
Mistressnfantasy


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Status: offline 		Mike . is a lost puppy ..........Im a pro domme Mike and I love every play I have with every client and if I wasnt here to give people that service where could they get it>>>who would have the equipment for them to use and enjoy....
Im sure most people dont have and cant afford to have over $10000 worth of equipment sitting in their house...
<Mike I feel sorry for you as you ll never get to have the fun people who pay prodommes will have.. as you will never be contributing to the building up of a places equipment that you can come and enjoy... thus you will always be sitting in your corner on that nail and moaning about others...MF

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RE: Pro-Dommes, Prostitution, and sexual burnout. - 10/17/2006 5:01:25 PM   
michaelGA2


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Status: offline 		perhaps, but at least i can put the money somewhere for use later on...

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RE: Pro-Dommes, Prostitution, and sexual burnout. - 10/17/2006 5:08:08 PM   
Morrigel


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Status: offline 		Actually Misstressnfantasy brings up an excellent point, which has not been addressed directly in any of the other threads I have seen on the subject of professional domination.  In many places, pro-dommes have built and equipped some truly wonderful dungeons, and they are often willing to provide their playspace to other non-pro's and scenesters for their use in play.  Of course, you have to pay, just as you would for using a hotel room or some other type of space--but what a playground!

Many of us, no matter how long we have been in the lifestyle, do not have the space, time and money to build and maintain a well-maintained dungeon which has such a huge variety of equipment for various fantasy scenes--even though we and our subs might have very vivid fantasies about exotic locales and props--medieval racks, tiger cages, crosses and medical examination tables, etc..

Professional dominants of both sexes often serve as an extremely important community resource, not only because they tend to be more experienced and informed than any non-professional is likely to be, but also because you can sometimes use their wonderful playspace very much as a vanilla couple might use a hotel room for a little sexual get-a-way.

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