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Sinergy -> RE: Love. Actually? (10/22/2006 7:56:01 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Noah

Shit man, do you arrive in a foil wrapper, taste like peppermint and have a hole in your middle?



No, my zombie sex slaves come in a foil jumpsuit.

I am not sure what I taste like.

I have a hole in the middle, but Im a pitcher and not a catcher.

Sinergy




marieToo -> RE: Love. Actually? (10/22/2006 8:29:45 PM)

MrRodgers:

sorry to leave this message here. 

want to respond to your mail....problem is, I can rec've mail here at CM, but for some reason my 'send mail' feature does not work. If you're comfortable with it, please send me your outside email address and I will contact you via my aol. 

thanks.




marieToo -> RE: Love. Actually? (10/22/2006 8:36:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: cuddleheart50

I swear marie, you need your own comedy show...you crack me up!!!!


Ha!  They'd pelt rotten tomatoes at my head.  Im sure of it!




nefertari -> RE: Love. Actually? (10/22/2006 9:20:07 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

These boards have been too quiet, too long!

I propose, that there is no such thing as love. I propose that what love is, is merely attachment to the benefits one derives from another person in return for a price, in terms of the benefits the other derives from you, you are willing to pay. As such it is a commercial contract. Variation of the price you pay and variation of the benefits you derive under this contract, is what brings about a breakup because of the breach of contract involved.

Such breaches may include changing in appearance (getting fat, looking old, disfigurement etc), changes to the sexual side of the contract (failure to perform, revelation of some sort of kink etc), changes to the monetary side (losing a job, inadvisable investment, wasting money etc), failure to meet material expectations (new house, new car, new furniture etc), and so on.

I contest that if love were actual, then it would be the person with whom one was in love, however observation shows this not to be the case, since changes in expected benefits from the person seem to be the primary causes of break up. Were love real, then the benefits would not matter.

Discuss




I disagree.  I have been involved with some that were very good to me and deserving of love and I did love them, but not romantically.  And couldn't no matter how much I may have wanted to.  And there is one who I haven't seen or spoken to in 9 years and if I ran into him today I would still be weak in the knees and would feel the ache in my chest.




Owned1 -> RE: Love. Actually? (10/22/2006 9:24:45 PM)

twice,,,,, that was beautiful!

Owned




meatcleaver -> RE: Love. Actually? (10/22/2006 11:42:15 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Noah


Some times you just have to jump. Love is one of those places.




Naah. No thanks, it's a psychosis.




Noah -> RE: Love. Actually? (10/22/2006 11:45:33 PM)


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ORIGINAL: meatcleaver


Naah. No thanks, it's a psychosis.


No. It's less filling!




meatcleaver -> RE: Love. Actually? (10/23/2006 1:55:23 AM)

To quote Nietzche. “Love is a state in which a man sees things most decidedly as they are not” and ' A good pair of spectacles is often enough to cure love.'

I suppose many of us have witnessed how 'love' can transform the dull and ordinary into a rare exotic flower. I have, at least three times. I still contend that love is delusional and one is better off accepting it as a madness than whole heartedly believing in its madness.




cuddleheart50 -> RE: Love. Actually? (10/23/2006 3:20:22 AM)

Without love there is loniness and bitterness.




Level -> RE: Love. Actually? (10/23/2006 4:42:04 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Noah


quote:

ORIGINAL: meatcleaver


Naah. No thanks, it's a psychosis.


No. It's less filling!



Tastes great!




Lashra -> RE: Love. Actually? (10/23/2006 5:28:35 AM)

There is no love like the love of a Mother for a child. I know, I am a Mother [:D]
There aren't many people that I'd eat a bullet for, or throw myself into the path of an on coming car, but I would for my child in a second if her life were endangered.

Now love between two adults is different, a lot of times lust is the main engine and as we know that usually doesn't last forever. If you can get love and lust together that is one hot recipe. Will it last forever? Hard to say, does anything last forever? Probably not but at least we can experience it for a little while.

~Lashra




Kalira -> RE: Love. Actually? (10/23/2006 5:50:14 AM)

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If you can get love and lust together that is one hot recipe. Will it last forever? Hard to say, does anything last forever? Probably not but at least we can experience it for a little while.

I don't think it lasts forever per se. I do believe that the feelings change ( either become more deep, and solid; or they slowly die ) over time.




Noah -> RE: Love. Actually? (10/23/2006 7:00:29 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Lashra

There is no love like the love of a Mother for a child. I know, I am a Mother [:D]
There aren't many people that I'd eat a bullet for, or throw myself into the path of an on coming car, but I would for my child in a second if her life were endangered.

~Lashra



Geez, all this "to die for" talk. Very romantic.

I'm not big on human litmus tests, nor this suicidal one in particular.

A much larger part of the whole picture for me would be decribed by sentences prominently featuring the word "live".




Aileen68 -> RE: Love. Actually? (10/23/2006 7:17:45 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Noah



A much larger part of the whole picture for me would be decribed by sentences prominently featuring the word "live".



Yeah well.  That always is the better alternative.




Mercnbeth -> RE: Love. Actually? (10/23/2006 9:37:18 AM)

So many people resigned to failure. So many others planning for it. So many worst case "what if" and no best case.

Why then are you here? Why do you try? Is everyone so enamored with failure that fighting to be the poster child for it becomes a competitive sport?

If you don't like yourself it's very difficult to be in a position to love or be loved. If you are lonely with yourself to the point of pain, you'll only inflict pain on those around you. If you are bored with your life, most likely you are boring.

Love builds from what you are and what you bring. You can't expect to build a relationship when all you bring to the table is destructive negativity. If you aren't happy with yourself, how you got here, or where you are, the 'fix' isn't love of another. You first need to be happy and love yourself. If that is impossible for you to do, don't expect anyone else to do it either.




missturbation -> RE: Love. Actually? (10/23/2006 9:40:06 AM)

Love sucks and thats all i have to say [:'(]




Kalira -> RE: Love. Actually? (10/23/2006 9:40:28 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

So many people resigned to failure. So many others planning for it. So many worst case "what if" and no best case.

Why then are you here? Why do you try? Is everyone so enamored with failure that fighting to be the poster child for it becomes a competitive sport?

If you don't like yourself it's very difficult to be in a position to love or be loved. If you are lonely with yourself to the point of pain, you'll only inflict pain on those around you. If you are bored with your life, most likely you are boring.

Love builds from what you are and what you bring. You can't expect to build a relationship when all you bring to the table is destructive negativity. If you aren't happy with yourself, how you got here, or where you are, the 'fix' isn't love of another. You first need to be happy and love yourself. If that is impossible for you to do, don't expect anyone else to do it either.

Very nicely said [:)]




LaTigresse -> RE: Love. Actually? (10/23/2006 10:39:12 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Kalira

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

So many people resigned to failure. So many others planning for it. So many worst case "what if" and no best case.

Why then are you here? Why do you try? Is everyone so enamored with failure that fighting to be the poster child for it becomes a competitive sport?

If you don't like yourself it's very difficult to be in a position to love or be loved. If you are lonely with yourself to the point of pain, you'll only inflict pain on those around you. If you are bored with your life, most likely you are boring.

Love builds from what you are and what you bring. You can't expect to build a relationship when all you bring to the table is destructive negativity. If you aren't happy with yourself, how you got here, or where you are, the 'fix' isn't love of another. You first need to be happy and love yourself. If that is impossible for you to do, don't expect anyone else to do it either.

Very nicely said [:)]


I second that.




Sinergy -> RE: Love. Actually? (10/23/2006 11:39:20 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Noah


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lashra

There is no love like the love of a Mother for a child. I know, I am a Mother [:D]
There aren't many people that I'd eat a bullet for, or throw myself into the path of an on coming car, but I would for my child in a second if her life were endangered.

~Lashra



Geez, all this "to die for" talk. Very romantic.

I'm not big on human litmus tests, nor this suicidal one in particular.

A much larger part of the whole picture for me would be decribed by sentences prominently featuring the word "live".



Hello A/all,

My only point, Noah, was that I do tend to agree with you about all the "to die for" talk.  I wanted to point out that the part of me that did/does those things was not the part of my mind that posts on the internet or has articulate thoughts.  People can say they would "die for X" all day long, but I have learned doing what I do that the part of a person that says that is not in charge under adrenal stress.

Although I will say that the classes I help teach are teaching the part of the brain that is in charge under adrenal stress.

Just me, could be wrong, but there you go.

Sinergy




windchymes -> RE: Love. Actually? (10/23/2006 2:14:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Well, have you ever had a thousand dollar blowjob?  It looks alot like love to me.  But I am rather shallow sort.......................


LOL,

Ron



No, but I've given a few [;)]  




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