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RE: Territorial? - 10/25/2006 5:09:37 PM

subjected2006

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Are you trying to put people off?
Because I dont even know you and I am pretty sure I would not like you.
Why is this important?
Because you dont live in a vaccuume.
None of us do.
I think your issues with women is a self hate issue.
Just my opinion,I could be wrong.
I had a Newfie that made everyone uncomfortable too.
So when company came I sent "Hank "out side.
That's just a common curtousy.
The mamabear effect?
Territorial?
No.
Just bad manners.
Just sayin'

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RE: Territorial? - 10/25/2006 5:11:39 PM

ShiftedJewel

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I've had a similar situation happen in my home and I straight out told the girl that I was extremely unhappy with her behavior and insisted on an apology AND appropriate behavior in the future... it was that or she was gone. As MistressDiane pointed out.. it is very embarrassing to the dominant... she isn't the only one you owe an apology too.

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RE: Territorial? - 10/25/2006 5:25:18 PM

diamonddreamlove

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Sir would not have apologised but i would have been punished for such treatment. It is not my place to determine if another is in service to Him or not. His displeasure over such would have been devistating to me. I am surprized that your Master tolerated the behavior but that is between the two of you. And yes i believe you owe the slave a heartfelt apology. Just my opinion.

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RE: Territorial? - 10/25/2006 5:25:53 PM

shaylaSC

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The woman was invited into your Master's home, by your Master.
You sent her away in tears? Wow is that disrespectful or what?

You owe more than one person an apology here and if what he wants is not something you want, maybe an intense coversation should be had and fast.

shayla

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RE: Territorial? - 10/25/2006 5:32:37 PM

corsetgirl

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Hi:

I don't know you very well but I believe you do have the pangs of jealousy as I can definitely relate to your feelings.

I learned the hard way from one of my ex-doms who replaced me with his sub and they are now married.

I also think that you and your dom need to have a serious discussion because if you are wanting a monogamous dom and he is entertaining the thought of having a poly household, that could lead to disaster.

All I know is that being jealous and territorial is like a monster and this can destroy a lot of relationships and possible friendships, too.

Just my take on things....

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RE: Territorial? - 10/25/2006 5:43:48 PM

Morrigel

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Just to add...

...yes, I agree with others that you should feel remorse that you hurt another person. The woman who was invited to the home was not at fault. She was invited as a guest, and thought she would be welcome. She respected your master and thought he knew what he was doing--he didn't.

As to your master--yes, he is right to apologize to her, but she is also right not to accept his apology. I know I am a minority of one, here, but the keeping of wolves is not a habit for people who enjoy entertaining casual guests.

It sounds to me as if your master needs to take responsibility for the fact that he enjoys taming dangerous animals which can never be fully domesticated, and keeping them around the house. Wolves are NOT safe, friendly, love-everyone pets. If he'd wanted that kind of relationship, he should have gotten an ordinary domestic breed...of both dog and slave.

--M

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RE: Territorial? - 10/25/2006 5:48:54 PM

DiurnalVampire

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IF you reacted this way, I have 2 questions of my own. Firstly, did your Master know to expect this reaction. If He decides to bring someone else in, it is not your place to do anything about it. That is his decision and his aone. I dont care if your territorial or not, it was HIS guest and HIS choice to bring her in. If you are jealous, or worried about being replaced, perhas this isa serious matter that needs to be addressed. That usualy stems out of not trusting the man as much as the ulterioir motives of the woman, since it does take 2 to tango so to speak. One cannot cheat with an unwiling partner.
Second question is, is this something He plans on pursuing again? It would seem that if he wants to have the ability to play with others, you are going to have some major adapting to do.

I have been in a situation similiar. I had a girl who thoght that by being my primary, she was within her rights to discipline others I might play with as she saw fit. She was dimsissed quickly becasue if I make the decision to have someone else around, she had no place to object. If it bothered her, she could bring it up to me privately, but she was under no circumstances within her rights to take it out on them.

Angel is in a position similiar. He is my one and only right now. He understands and is trying to accept the idea that that might not be the case forever. More likely than not it will be, but I require im to understand the possibility that it might not be. I want to know ahead of time that he will not react inappropriately should I want a sub to play with who fulfills a need he might not.

My opinion, of course.

DV

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RE: Territorial? - 10/25/2006 5:57:55 PM

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I agree with whats has been said so far. If you knew this woman was coming then for all your Master knew you had accepted it. You do owe an apology to the other slave and your Master. You were disprespectful.

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RE: Territorial? - 10/25/2006 6:41:44 PM

arrow

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wolfie -

From your post, you presented yourself as self absorbed and insecure. Not to mention insulting,controlling and manipulative. If you are a slave, then you are a poor one.
Apologize to your Master - if that's what he really is.

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RE: Territorial? - 10/25/2006 6:47:26 PM

TemptingNviceSub

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Well in some ways I agree with all that posted..however not familiar with slave aspect but from sub aspect what was agreed upon before you entered your relationship with your Master?..Did you agree to another female being brought into your dynamic sometime in the future?..Or was this his intent to test the waters so to speak?..If the answer is these were not agreed to ,then I am thinking Master is at fault fully and was right to apologise not only to innocent female brought into this situation but also to his slave..If you agreed to others being intorduced to the dynamic then you are in the wrong and you should be in disgrace...I wish you well...Tempting

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RE: Territorial? - 10/25/2006 7:15:49 PM

angelic

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i agree. you voiced it much better than i. There are really too many questions unanswered to really be able to judge definitely one way or the other.

It did seem to me that the OP came across as rather bratty (maybe i've just had a long day and am misreading it).

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RE: Territorial? - 10/25/2006 7:27:13 PM

sean63501

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My apologies for wandering in, but what exactly is the definition of "unmentionable" in this instance? I've never seen it before and it has me very confused.

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RE: Territorial? - 10/25/2006 7:32:01 PM

angelic

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it means younguns

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RE: Territorial? - 10/25/2006 7:36:33 PM

Mavis

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Morrigel

Wolves are NOT safe, friendly, love-everyone pets. If he'd wanted that kind of relationship, he should have gotten an ordinary domestic breed...of both dog and slave.

(emphasis mine)

:: cough ::: LMAO.

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RE: Territorial? - 10/25/2006 7:39:33 PM

sean63501

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quote:

ORIGINAL: angelic

it means younguns

ahhhhhh thank you!

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RE: Territorial? - 10/25/2006 7:53:22 PM

Hercuckslave

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in my opinion, you dishonored your Master, you dishonored yourself, you dishonored the guest that was invited into your home, and you dishonored the role of a slave. Your Master invited her in. You "werent taking lightly" to having another slave do your tasks??? I'm sorry but...too bad. That was NOT your call to make. And any harsh words or energies you sent towards this woman were simply uncalled for. It was not her fault. She was invited into your home by your MASTER. if you had a problem with that, that was between you and your Master. it had NOTHING to do with this unsuspecting third party.

you say you see no reason to apologize to this woman. come on. look at yourself and the situation closely and i think you will see that you DO indeed owe this woman an apology. a sincere apology for hurting her when she did nothing wrong. you also owe your Master a major apology, and in my opinion, he owes you some serious correction.

just one slave's opinion.

M's m

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RE: Territorial? - 10/25/2006 8:06:01 PM

MsKatHouston

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I don't know what dynamic you have going on, that is between you and your partner. It sounds like you two need to have a long talk, though. However, as a dominant, there are times I am subjected to having to entertain coworkers or clients of my submissive or my own in my home. Some of them I do not particularly care for. Whether dominant or submissive or vanilla activities in my home, guests are treated with respect. They are taken care of and made to feel welcome. The only exception to that is if said guest does something to harm me or mine. They are then no longer welcome in my home. But regardless of who in my household brings a guest in, they are automatically treated kindly, with care and made to feel welcome. Forget all the D/s stuff...that's simple good manners.

Maybe we are missing something from the story but it sounds like you not only acted rudely but then followed it up by recognizing you were rude and like a petulant child refused to take accountability for your actions and apologize. Bad form.

The only way I would think this opinion would change for me is if you left out some glaring portions of the story.

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RE: Territorial? - 10/25/2006 8:28:20 PM

NINASHARP

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Fast Reply;

I think there is much more to this situation then the OP stated. I did a search on some of your past posts, and it seems that there are some other things going on in your relationship that may have warrented your insecurities. JMO, but I really don't think it is just from a territorial stand point. I have no idea what you agreed to when going into your M/s relationship, nor will I judge you for your actions, but I do wonder how you would feel if you were invited into another one's home and a third party treated you in such a manner?

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RE: Territorial? - 10/25/2006 8:35:12 PM

DevilsVendetta

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Silvermoon

I think it's plain jealousy and underlying issues. There seems to be other issues about. Territorial behaviours are usually mixed with jealousy as well as a feeling that someone could not do something as well as yourself. The thing is...if you know and have your place, and you are comfortable within it, why feel threatened?

That being said, I personally, understand your feelings and even share some of them. However this entire thread speaks volumes of jealousy, which tends to be merely a symptom of underlying problems, which you yourself have admitted to.

Personally I think you SHOULD apologize, since it was not this girl's fault that she came into a house with it's own issues, and yet she was subjected to them. I think perhaps she was over-dramatic but, none the less those issues should have been dealt FAR before bringing in another girl, even temporarily...for that lack of judgment, yes you should apologize to her. Regardless of your defensiveness of jealousy (we all get it from time to time, that's not a dig)

This girl, was innocent of it all and like so many, she may hesitate or even avoid said subject again, unless you set things straight. Even if you felt you were not in the wrong, or did no action to require such behaviour from her, the truth is..she was still hurt. If nothing else you could apologize for hurting her, rather than 'how people acted'. HUGE difference.

However the entire thread generates a feeling of aggression and jealousy, even possessiveness of your Master.
Some Key points -

1) Your Master had to apologize for YOUR actions? which leads to
2) You don't feel the need to apologize. Obviously there was some reason/action which justifies an apology or he would not have offered it.
3) "I wasn't taking lightly to having a slave doing the tasks that I do" screams possessive.
4) Guarding unmentionables. Why do you feel you have to GUARD them??
5) Barely being able to tolerate females - Maybe giving the time of day - So prejudgment
6) Being especially aware/paranoid of the woman around your Master
7) Not being able to trust easily yet trusting your Master. Then trust his judgment and respect it enough to try and allow yourself to relax and get to know those whom he brings home.

Please do not take this as flaming, I mean it purely as a way to point out things that may be worked on to better your relationship and prevent further issues.

*removes her Shrink hat*
Silver

That about sums up the situation. You put your master in a very difficult spot and it was no fault of his. This blame falls on your head, I'm sorry if I come off as harsh, but I'm being honest

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RE: Territorial? - 10/25/2006 9:01:19 PM

beautyImurDaddy

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you have her name and number? i would love to have someone come in and help me clean house and pack... im kidding.. tryin to add a bit of levity to the situation.

I think that you need to sit down with your Master and voice any concerns that you have in bringing another into the home and discuss them so that you know where the parameters lie.

If she was brought in to help relieve you of some of the pressures and stress of always having to do housework... sort of as a gift... how do you think that would have made your Master feel when He thought He was doing something nice for you.

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