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RE: Territorial? - 10/26/2006 12:55:51 PM   
SweetDommes


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Status: offline 		I'm glad that you weren't offended, but that last reply wasn't actually to you.  It was to the OP who posted again.

As I've stated before, even if the dogs can open doors and there is no yard (which, IMO dogs of any breed shouldn't be kept in a home where there is nowhere to contain them, and dogs like that should not be kept in a home with no yard) there are ways to contain them, and that alone is a total breech of manners that should be appologised for.  Our dogs are overly exhuberant at times (although the worst you'll get from them is the skin on your hands licked raw), and 2 of them know how to escape from their crates ... so when we have people over who are nervous around large dogs, we clip the doors to the crates shut after we put the dogs away - problem solved, dogs aren't harmed in anyway (they are always put in there with a treat and a toy to keep them occupied) and no one is made nervous by them.  There are ways to contain dogs that make people nervous, and as a hostess, even when surprised by a guest, she should have done something about the dogs.

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RE: Territorial? - 10/26/2006 12:57:26 PM   
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RE: Territorial? - 10/26/2006 12:59:03 PM   
raiken


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quote:

ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

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ORIGINAL: agirl
Whatever the OP's *issues* are, regarding females ....they are almost irrelevant..........she may have had to face them at some point....but with a broken agreement, in her own home/safe place.........I think not.

I can imagine a VERY badly behaved slave here......in reply to a very badly behaved Master.

agirl


I tend to go by the rule that someone else's lack of manners is never a reason to forget my own.

Of course the dom was a total dumbass loser to cheat on his slave and bring another chick into things without consent and without warning this other girl what she was getting into.

But that doesn't excuse treating an innocent houseguest poorly- SHE has done nothing wrong as far as we can tell.  The fact that this slave has such obvious women-hating issues to the point that she can't be a good hostess to someone because they are a female shows some serious problems- but problems which are unrelated to the doms stupid and wrong behvaior.

I still like my suggestions- greet her warmly, offer her refreshment, tell the dom in private that he needs to get them both out of the house and apologize to the poor girl, thank the girl for coming and escort them both calmly out the door.

Get pissed at the dom, get enraged at the dom, heck dump the dom- but don't be rude to an innocent houseguest.


All through reading this thread i am still inclined to agree with LA on this one.  For personal issues, whether they are past or present, are not an excuse to dump on others, or be rude and uncivil.  If being polite is not a natural tendency, it can still be learned and practiced.  If a master allows this type of behavior, then i believe that the responsibility falls back on him.  i also believe that much healing is needed, and that is also part of the masters responsibility to see that he takes care of what is his in that regard as well, and not leave it to continue on.  If the slave is unwilling, then i believe it best, to not involve other folks in their drama.  Just me.

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RE: Territorial? - 10/26/2006 12:59:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		No problem - I'm still on vacation, so I have plenty of time to post ... I just don't always pay attention to who is says I'm replying to LOL

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RE: Territorial? - 10/26/2006 1:02:32 PM   
angelic


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Status: offline 		ok.. playing devil's advocate a bit here.  (i really do love a good debate when there isn't a ton of drama involved).  i wasn't there... i read her response and she explained that here she is after a long day feeling grungy, not expecting company of any kind, she's eating, sees her Master coming up the walk, she goes to greet him and whoops... he's got another woman with him.  She's feeling many emotions, yes the dogs should have been her 1st thought after she regained some sense of self.  However, i also have no idea how the friend was introduced, etc. 

(egads i have way too much time on my hands today)

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RE: Territorial? - 10/26/2006 1:08:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		Just in general, when people leave your house crying, when you feel the need to post a long original thread explaining why you don't feel like you should apologize when no one online was asking for it, and giving a long diatribe explaining exactly how and how much you don't like a particular type of person and defending your own actions....that speaks pretty clearly that you probably did SOMETHING inappropriate.

Is there room for doubt here?  Yes.  There's a lot here that still isn't being revealed (like the fact that you have a master but hadn't talked with him on the phone in three days and who thought it would be a good idea for a surprise visit WITH his brand new chicky), and it's a pretty good illustration of how people in the scene can be as messed up and make horrible choices as anyone else.

But the room for doubt seems very slim.

And just to personally say, I LOVE wolf dogs (I love all animals in general), I get along with them very well and am delighted to visit people who have them. However, I know I'm the minority and that good hosts offer to put the dogs away if any guest seems to be uneasy with them.

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RE: Territorial? - 10/26/2006 1:09:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		In our house, the dogs make themselves our first thoughts when someone comes over - they get all bouncy lol

I know that not all dogs are like ours, but if one of the dogs was sleeping in the hall and got tripped over (which was stated in the most recent post by the OP, I believe), then at that point, there is your reminder to take care of the dogs.  Another point, though, is that it is stated that there is no yard and the dogs can open doors - which says to me that they have no way to contain the dogs at all, no matter what the situation is - and that's just asking for trouble, if not now (which, it has caused trouble) then in the future.  This is why our dogs are all crate-trained and with a few exceptions of getting over excited or scared, they stay put when told.  The two who escape - one of them does it during thunderstorms because she's terrified of them - the other has only done it twice, but we prefer not to take chances if she makes people nervous.  We are also well aware of the effect our dogs have on other people.  We have a large German Shepherd, an American Staffordshire Terrier mix (those are the two that escape), an American Pitbull Terrier, and two Shih Tzus - and until they are all calm when someone comes over and the guest is comfortable with them being out, they all stay in their crates.  If they can't get calm, then they stay there.  Just because it's our house and our dogs doesn't mean that we can't be respectful to people who are nervous around large dogs.

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RE: Territorial? - 10/26/2006 1:18:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		As you said, LA, there are many questions left unanswered. 

i had a former Master who also had a wolf dog (i think that's a mixed breed of wolf?) and it scared the bejeezus out of me.  i had a great deal of respect for the dog. 

One question i have that has sort of bugged me throughout this thread and one that probably does not mean diddleesquat to the OP; however i wonder if English might be a second language for the OP (that is a serious question and not meant to offend, at all).  (And i also know it has no bearing on the conversation at hand).

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RE: Territorial? - 10/26/2006 1:20:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		First off I will introduce myself.  I'm Dean, one of Wolf's friends.  There are a few of us here and we are holding a tribunal.  Since Wolf outranks her "master" she gets a reprieve.  But don't worry I'm sure her punishment is fitting.  She has to do 100 military pushups in whipped cream.  I've always wanted to see her in her undies.  As for her master.  Here is the ruling as follows.

For breaking an agreement made between Wolf and Master we rule that Master will do all chores, to include doo doo duty, for 2 months.

For lack of judgement and placing a third party in an unsafe situation.  Third party has requested that Master does chores in dress of her choice. 

For showing up unannounced with third party we rule that Master has to wash all our cars in third party's pick of dress.

For being a lower rank than Wolf.  We rule that he is subject to her every demand for the next two months as her personal slave. 

I think I like this.  A master being his slave's slave.  I so want the pictures of this.  I forgot to mention.  Everytime Wolf does a push up that dosen't count.  She has to start over.  This will be very intresting.  I think the dogs are even laughing.

And we now have the dress.  Its a red dress with lace.  The skirt comes to the knees.  There is pantyhose to go with this and a pair of strap on sandals.  Oh does Master look so cute in it.  I will definately enjoy watching him wash my car. 

Well I'm going to take pictures so I can post them at work.  Everyone here have a nice day and feel assured that justice has been done.

~Dean

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RE: Territorial? - 10/26/2006 1:23:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		A mediator posting under the sub's screen-name?????  This just gets better and better ... just adds to my entertainment for the day LOL

There is a good deal of this scenario that I'm just not buying ... and that 'good deal' just gets larger and larger LOL

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RE: Territorial? - 10/26/2006 1:23:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		ok now that's damned funny!

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RE: Territorial? - 10/26/2006 1:25:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		OK this story just took a sharp left turn from "really bad choices of adults" into "fantastical cyber drama with a whole heck of a lot of people who have no idea how to form and maintain serious long term relationships"

Push ups in whipped cream will somehow help her become a better hostess and learn how to form positive relationships with women????

Cmon....I forthwith wash my hands of this, I've said all that can be said to RATIONAL and REASONABLE adults.  When you "tribunals" decide you want to start having adult relationships with long term potential, let me know and I'll start posting again.

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RE: Territorial? - 10/26/2006 1:26:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		i am starting to agree with you, SweetDommes... it has been entertaining.  LOL

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RE: Territorial? - 10/26/2006 1:27:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		In my house, i tend to leave the dog out to at least greet the person, and then if the dog doesn't seem to like that person (our dog doesn't attack though either, he just snarls as a way of saying -hey this person ticks me off) i keep that in mind. i pay attention to how my dog responds to folks.  i have one friend who my dog will not warm to for some reason as my dog's disposition is usually friendly toward strangers.  If i detect the person to be overly fearful i then put the dog in a seperate room.  Also, if i sense that my dog's intuition about that person may have a valid reason for me not trusting that person, i keep that in mind as well.  However, i let the person know before hand that i have a dog.  Just common courtesy, as not everyone likes to be around flesh eating beasts! *grin
 
i also wish to add that even though i may have had an emotional bout, or a bad day at work, or whatever, that still would not be reason enough for me to act rude to a person.  i would explain upon meeting that i'm having a bad day and to please excuse me if i wasn't the greatest host at the moment.  Just me.

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RE: Territorial? - 10/26/2006 1:28:21 PM   
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Yeah ... it's just entirely too farfetched at this point.  Either it's one person playing an elaborate hoax, a group of people playing a hoax, or a group of people who REALLY need to gather some interpersonal skills (starting with the OP).

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RE: Territorial? - 10/26/2006 1:28:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		it gets deeper and deeper doesn't it

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RE: Territorial? - 10/26/2006 1:31:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

Push ups in whipped cream will somehow help her become a better hostess and learn how to form positive relationships with women????

Nope! But it sure would float my boat in other areas! *grin

Cmon....I forthwith wash my hands of this, I've said all that can be said to RATIONAL and REASONABLE adults.  When you "tribunals" decide you want to start having adult relationships with long term potential, let me know and I'll start posting again.


LA, not often i get to see this side of you. *smile You go girl!

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RE: Territorial? - 10/26/2006 1:35:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well, how illuminating.

I have to say that my post was in reply to what I saw as an incredibly hurtful and damaging situation.

Somehow I'm left thinking you all deserve each other......LOL.....enjoy!

agirl


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RE: Territorial? - 10/26/2006 2:00:54 PM   
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Is this shit for real??? Seriously....

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RE: Territorial? - 10/26/2006 2:11:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		There are days where I don't want to know.  Too much damn drama here if you ask me.  But something caught me.  OP is a marine and the master is an MP.  I figured that from the name.  I've looked at this and considered everything.  Its vague and not being there none of us really knows what happened.  I think that the OP had gotten home late from work.  She did say she changed the oil in her truck.  Sent the babysitter home and was probably heating up leftovers.  Since its states the OP was still in uniform its safe to assume that the master arrived shortly after, not giving the OP time to clean up.  Not expecting anyone else the OP didn't think of manners.  But she did bow slightly since she had a cracker in her mouth.  I know that bowing to a guest is respectable.  Another thing is that it was clear that the OP only watched the guest and that the dogs followed the guest until they were settled down.  Already there was stress.  Its possible that the dogs were commanded to stay in one of the rooms and the hall.  But I wonder why nothing was said by the guest about the presence of dogs.  Honestly if I were a guest and was scared of dogs I would say something.  I also wonder why the master didn't introduce the two women in the first place.  This is common courtesy and well a way to break the ice.  I see many mistakes made here and all around apologies are needed.  And maybe they have.  None of us are there to know for sure.  Also if the master didn't call I can then assume since there are children between the two that he probably was there the day before.  Again there are too many questions and honestly I don't want a book to read.  I think that maybe we should drop this and move onto better things to waste our time with.  I know I am.

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