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RE: Territorial? - 10/25/2006 9:28:12 PM   
Sabastianaa


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Status: offline 		I do not feel that being ashamed of your actions is going to change any part of it seeing it and figuring out what was the reasoning behind all the feelings is more important your communication with your masterly type guy is going down a road that would not be well fitted if your not talking about all your feelings . Concerning the unmentionable  you have every right to be overzealous about the protection of this unmentionable weather your masterly type guy trusted her or not you have every right to protect your unmentionable to the 10th degree I personally call that (one smart Momma)
Ultimately You and Your Masterly type guy need some personal time to work this out it is ultimately between you and him either the feelings are dealt with or they will always continue to come and most likely become worse over time

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RE: Territorial? - 10/25/2006 10:16:49 PM   
LadyHugs


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Status: offline 		Dear subartist4dom, Ladies and Gentlemen;
 
Being in the lifestyle a long time, I am fully aware of the cuthroats within the lifestyle and outside it, in a military venue as well as a semi-military situation as well.
 
That said, you identify an arch type of an 'artist' which are sensitive and more times then not over sensitive, eccentric behavior is peppered throughout the artist lifestyle throughout history.  Another arch-type I see you identify with, is a she-wolf/alpha wolf and with a vein of a sniper laying in wait, ready to take pot shots at unsuspecting targets under the guise of "guard."
 
In addition, your fix on 'sex' and how other women have behaved in the past or you have knowledge of; creates 'justification' in your mind's eye to behave as a predator, sniper and savage any woman; justified or not just because it 'feels good' and feeds the hate.  In a sense, becoming exactly what you loath in other women.
 
The paragraph #1, where you put in summary, that you did not think highly of another slave doing the tasks assigned to you.  No different than a military officer assigning a soldier to do what tasks you normally do--you got your nose out of joint.  Since you cannot take it out on the Master/Officer--you take it out on the poor soldier/slave following orders and blindsided by your 'personal' dislike and controling nature.  Nothing team work about that.  So, you make sure she knows that you hate the girl, your poison just oozing out of your pores...your hate scent waffles into her sense of smell and she knows you're ready to eat her for lunch.
 
2.  You mention 'unmentionables' and your need to guard them.  Are they that terrified of people in the house that they need guarding or do they attack like predators also?  After all unmentionables learn from the adults--they don't always understand--but they learn.  Perhaps you cannot imagine, that people can enjoy watching young people being youthful.  Spirit of intent was never manifested in a way that they were a danger.  Just another justification for an assumption that all people are abusers.  A justification to attack before a justification is determined.  Trigger happy when it comes to other females perhaps.
 
Paragraph #3, you write about females in a general sense, lumping the majority in as unsavory people and 'loose' or 'needy' as to have to pay $100.00 to get with your Master for a few hours.  Well, maybe he is worth a hundred to listen to, learn from, be mentored from, to be the decent man he is.  Maybe they have to pay to have somebody as a Master to pour their soul out to, as they're in pain with abuses of the past and hurt so much, that they would die for a few moments with a healer and have some form of catharsis.  Perhaps you take your Master for granted and don't want to share his gifts of goodness with others.  Its just easier to give them such negatives as the hate is felt for women, that having your own personal healer, you let other slave female spirits die.  It would be fine with you to see all female slaves die.  The question would be--would you feel the same way if you needed a healer in the form of your Master and his slave treated you as you treat the lass who your Master invited?
 
There are a lot of men and women who have suffered abuse and have equal justification to be angry and cruel.  However, they have gotten help, healed, they have allowed others to help.  They have reached for the positives, which is much harder to reach and grasp.  It takes courage to do so.  Nobody will see survivors of abuse, who become positive individuals despite it all cannot be called cowards, in my mind's eye.  Abuse in the past is no excuse for being abusive.
 
In my mind's eye I see--One angry woman, who hates and lets hate be the dominant over you.  As far as a slave arch-type,  I don't see a slave who trusts their Master to make good decisions.  I'm sure he knows all the hate you have and live for the opportunity to manifest it.  Identifying a prejudice is just the beginning to owning up to that prejudice.  Just like racial, gender, religious and or class prejudice it is born from a learned behavior.  Plus, you know that not all are worthy of the hate but, it is an justification for ugly, cruel behavior which is no less destructive then lynching.
 
Problem is--the hate you have, causes collateral damage.  Your hate, your attitude, your behavior hurt two people.  Congratulations on wounding your Master, congratulations on still taking pot shots on a innocent target who is waving the white flag in surrender, putting rounds into her, not to kill her off but, to make her suffer, crawl and degrade herself and at your mercy.
 
In my mind's eye I see, that you're just fooling yourself by your words of obedience to your Master and others would find you 'rash and defiant.'  Seems to my mind's eye-- you were defiant and rash with your Master and 'his' guest.  I venture to say, that your Master isn't aware that he isn't your dominant but, more like a 'catch/prize.'  If he crosses you--he'll be another excuse of being abusive.  Hate is your Master currently.
 
I would be extremely embarrassed as a owner of a slave who behaved in such a manner.  Most un-slave like.  Any 'alleged' slave manifested one tenth of the cruelty to another individual as a guest; they be uncollared and given some dollars and sent packing.  Just common courtesy in scene/lifestyle or vanilla; my guests are to be treated kindly.  If anybody can't stand them, excuse one's self and go out of the house, go to a movie, walk the wolves--go anywhere but, be in the house if they couldn't be civil. 

Wolves being scent qued, knowing that and they fed of your hate, you put into motion a dangerous situation. 
 
And, I do see in my mind's eye--that this is just the tip of the ice burg of the 'incident.'  There are two sides, in this case three sides to the story.
 
Respectfully submitted for consideration,
Lady Hugs
 
 
 
 

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RE: Territorial? - 10/25/2006 10:22:15 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyHugs

Dear subartist4dom, Ladies and Gentlemen;
 
Being in the lifestyle a long time, I am fully aware of the cuthroats within the lifestyle and outside it, in a military venue as well as a semi-military situation as well.
 
That said, you identify an arch type of an 'artist' which are sensitive and more times then not over sensitive, eccentric behavior is peppered throughout the artist lifestyle throughout history.  Another arch-type I see you identify with, is a she-wolf/alpha wolf and with a vein of a sniper laying in wait, ready to take pot shots at unsuspecting targets under the guise of "guard."
 
In addition, your fix on 'sex' and how other women have behaved in the past or you have knowledge of; creates 'justification' in your mind's eye to behave as a predator, sniper and savage any woman; justified or not just because it 'feels good' and feeds the hate.  In a sense, becoming exactly what you loath in other women.
 
The paragraph #1, where you put in summary, that you did not think highly of another slave doing the tasks assigned to you.  No different than a military officer assigning a soldier to do what tasks you normally do--you got your nose out of joint.  Since you cannot take it out on the Master/Officer--you take it out on the poor soldier/slave following orders and blindsided by your 'personal' dislike and controling nature.  Nothing team work about that.  So, you make sure she knows that you hate the girl, your poison just oozing out of your pores...your hate scent waffles into her sense of smell and she knows you're ready to eat her for lunch.
 
2.  You mention 'unmentionables' and your need to guard them.  Are they that terrified of people in the house that they need guarding or do they attack like predators also?  After all unmentionables learn from the adults--they don't always understand--but they learn.  Perhaps you cannot imagine, that people can enjoy watching young people being youthful.  Spirit of intent was never manifested in a way that they were a danger.  Just another justification for an assumption that all people are abusers.  A justification to attack before a justification is determined.  Trigger happy when it comes to other females perhaps.
 
Paragraph #3, you write about females in a general sense, lumping the majority in as unsavory people and 'loose' or 'needy' as to have to pay $100.00 to get with your Master for a few hours.  Well, maybe he is worth a hundred to listen to, learn from, be mentored from, to be the decent man he is.  Maybe they have to pay to have somebody as a Master to pour their soul out to, as they're in pain with abuses of the past and hurt so much, that they would die for a few moments with a healer and have some form of catharsis.  Perhaps you take your Master for granted and don't want to share his gifts of goodness with others.  Its just easier to give them such negatives as the hate is felt for women, that having your own personal healer, you let other slave female spirits die.  It would be fine with you to see all female slaves die.  The question would be--would you feel the same way if you needed a healer in the form of your Master and his slave treated you as you treat the lass who your Master invited?
 
There are a lot of men and women who have suffered abuse and have equal justification to be angry and cruel.  However, they have gotten help, healed, they have allowed others to help.  They have reached for the positives, which is much harder to reach and grasp.  It takes courage to do so.  Nobody will see survivors of abuse, who become positive individuals despite it all cannot be called cowards, in my mind's eye.  Abuse in the past is no excuse for being abusive.
 
In my mind's eye I see--One angry woman, who hates and lets hate be the dominant over you.  As far as a slave arch-type,  I don't see a slave who trusts their Master to make good decisions.  I'm sure he knows all the hate you have and live for the opportunity to manifest it.  Identifying a prejudice is just the beginning to owning up to that prejudice.  Just like racial, gender, religious and or class prejudice it is born from a learned behavior.  Plus, you know that not all are worthy of the hate but, it is an justification for ugly, cruel behavior which is no less destructive then lynching.
 
Problem is--the hate you have, causes collateral damage.  Your hate, your attitude, your behavior hurt two people.  Congratulations on wounding your Master, congratulations on still taking pot shots on a innocent target who is waving the white flag in surrender, putting rounds into her, not to kill her off but, to make her suffer, crawl and degrade herself and at your mercy.
 
In my mind's eye I see, that you're just fooling yourself by your words of obedience to your Master and others would find you 'rash and defiant.'  Seems to my mind's eye-- you were defiant and rash with your Master and 'his' guest.  I venture to say, that your Master isn't aware that he isn't your dominant but, more like a 'catch/prize.'  If he crosses you--he'll be another excuse of being abusive.  Hate is your Master currently.
 
I would be extremely embarrassed as a owner of a slave who behaved in such a manner.  Most un-slave like.  Any 'alleged' slave manifested one tenth of the cruelty to another individual as a guest; they be uncollared and given some dollars and sent packing.  Just common courtesy in scene/lifestyle or vanilla; my guests are to be treated kindly.  If anybody can't stand them, excuse one's self and go out of the house, go to a movie, walk the wolves--go anywhere but, be in the house if they couldn't be civil. 

Wolves being scent qued, knowing that and they fed of your hate, you put into motion a dangerous situation. 
 
And, I do see in my mind's eye--that this is just the tip of the ice burg of the 'incident.'  There are two sides, in this case three sides to the story.
 
Respectfully submitted for consideration,
Lady Hugs
 
 
 
 


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RE: Territorial? - 10/25/2006 11:09:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		I relate very much to your feelings of jealousy and fear.  I do not relate to your cruelty.  Jealousy is no excuse for your behavior.  You say you don't trust women, and yet you just just proved yourself to be untrustworthy as a woman.  You most certainly owe an apology to both your Master and this girl

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RE: Territorial? - 10/25/2006 11:38:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: subartist4dom

This is an issue that came up rather recently here between master and me.  He had brought a slave over to play with and needless to say the slave was crying shortly after.  Master took her home apoligizing, but the slave refuses to accept his apology for my actions.  Nor will I apologize since I see no reason to.  Here are somethings that came to light in the discussion.

1.  Since I myself am a slave, I wasn't taking lightly to having another slave doing the tasks that I do.  Dishes, cooking and above all the laundry are things that keep me busy since I am not one for watching TV. 

2.  There is a unmentionables around.  This presents a problem since I'll guard them.  I doubt any slave or person would feel very comfortable with someone watching them like they are dinner. 

3.  Thanks to the military and having to spend countless hours with females I've come to the point where I barely tolerate females.  Too many times dealing with the ones that lie, cheat, steal, and do many nasty things that any master would strangle them for.  I have rarely met one that (especially the ones master knows) aren't trying to sleep with master.  Pretty sad when females offer 100 bucks for a few hours.  So yes if you've guessed that I hate females, then give yourself a cookie.  Its in general though so once I know you better I might actually give you the time of day.

4.  Having Dakota and Coffee (wolf-dogs) around creates a very uncomfortable enviroment to alot of people.  Even master's parents will eye them wearily since they are rather large.  I'm sure the slave that was here feared them since they followed her every movement. 

5.  I don't trust people very easily after what my ex did.  No he was not into BDSM, but just plain abusive.  Which brings the fact that I trust master only and would only respond to him.  Another master, as many already have, would only find me to be rather rash and defiant. 

So master and I are wondering.  Is it territorialism or the Mama Bear effect?  Or both?  Master also wants to know if this has happened with others too. 

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RE: Territorial? - 10/26/2006 12:17:14 AM   
TeacherNStudent


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Status: offline 		Well said, LadyHugs.

Someone further up the queue also shares my specific complaint:  Dom, sub, or mundane, a GUEST who allegedly did nothing to earn it (hard to say, as the story is very sketchy, with many parts not filled in yet) was humiliated to the point of tears.  I'll not tolerate a guest in my home who abuses my hospitality, but neither would I ever tolerate someone who abused my guests.

There still remains considerable question as to whether the Master owes his slave an apology; this is part of the story that is missing, just as the exact behavior of the guest and the exact behavior of the slave are also missing.  But in the absence of any report of ill-behavior on the part of the guest by the offended slave, the one thing that might make her actions slightly less objectionable, I'd have to say that she owes the guest an abject apology.  Not a "heart-felt" apology, because she gives little indication that she genuinely feels what she did was wrong.  But given her own report, gaping holes and all, she definitely owes the guest a most humble apology.

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RE: Territorial? - 10/26/2006 2:34:18 AM   
mons


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when i firstread this post i thought you were a man. your angry to womens is that like a male then as i read more i see your a woman were you abuse by a woman sometine in you life? you have such bad trust issue toward woman? i understand you feeling of jeaulous and wanting to make sure you do all for your master/ but this poor girl did nothing to you all of the things your feelings you should take it out on you master.remember he invited her over not you. have you spoken to you master about you feeltings of not wanting another female in the home it is so wrong to treat her so. i know and believe you meant some very hard woman who cheat and steal but she may had been a firend i suggest you tell you master how you feel and ask never to have a poly home i do iwsh you luck with all you do take care
 
 
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RE: Territorial? - 10/26/2006 4:11:52 AM   
subartist4dom


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Status: offline 		There are two things that I will clarify.  One it she brought into my home, not master's.  Sorry but I don't like people I have no clue who they are in my home.  Male or female.  Two master was fully aware of my problem with females.  To shed some light onto this.  I spent over 6 months with over 80 females in one squad bay.  If you ever watched any movies that has boot camp in it, then you have a very good idea of what I am talking about.  Now its not just sleeping without privacy, but showering, and even going to the bathroom.  Yes I am a MARINE.  And believe me I was very glad to see a male when I was done with boot. 

Despite hating females I only watched this slave.  This is with good cause.  There are unmentionables of a very young age.  Since there was no introduction or time to get to know this slave there was no basis of trust.  Also with the pets I have I would not want another harmed in my home.  I myself have no idea how two wolf-dogs will react to someone they don't know.  Again I will not apologize to her until I know her better and what the cause for her tears were.  If it was the pets then that is very understandable due to size and nature.  If it was me then I will go from there in explanation.  However I do not see the reason for master apologizing even though he knew before hand of the issues. 

Yes master and I had a very long talk afterwards.  Master apologized to me for bringing the slave without any introduction or warning.  I am fully aware that is his right as a master.  Except the agreement was for a monogamus relationship, not poly.  Also my concern for her safety made him realize that he put another in harm's way.  Master and I are very concerned and were looking for advice.  Not reprimand from the entire community.  I will follow up on this post if there ever comes a resolution to this unfortunate incident. 

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RE: Territorial? - 10/26/2006 4:13:45 AM   
twicehappy


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Status: offline 		To start with i see a huge lack of hospitality and good manners here.
 
This girl was a guest, slave or not in your home.
 
When you have visitors it would be polite to put your dogs outside or in another room if the visitors are made uncomfortable by them. There is simply NO excuse for this breach of hospitality.
 
You should apologize to this girl, whether or not you invited her your Master did, what a poor reflection you made on him, where is your pride?
 
She attempted to help you around the house and you were jealous of her even doing some of your chores.
 
If you are that jealousnd insecure then perhaps you should discuss this with your owner.
 
As far as the unmentionables goes i doubt she could have harmed them with you there watching.

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RE: Territorial? - 10/26/2006 4:55:55 AM   
Silvermoon


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Status: offline 		Self-Justifications do not right the matter. I'd be curious what her 'Master' has to say.
subartist, you say you were here looking for advice not reprimand. Perhaps if you read the posts objectively, you'll find they are one in the same.

One other thing that entirely ticks me off...

It is situations like this that make poly so very difficult. Having had the experience of walking into a home like this..what are the chances of this girl trying again? So many become hurt, bitter, jaded by folks such as this, that there is very little chance for good, decent, caring Poly couples to have an oppurtunity to prove themselves.

Insult to injury.

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RE: Territorial? - 10/26/2006 4:59:43 AM   
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One it she brought into my home, not master's

Ok, so now we can cop the excuse that it's not his home but yours? GOOD. You are one sorry excuse for a hostess. I don't care who or what she was; you, as being the OWNER of this house, should have made her feel welcome. Period. There is no excuse for bad manners.
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  Despite hating females I only watched this slave.  This is with good cause.  There are unmentionables of a very young age

Ok, so what you are now saying is that this woman has a criminal record where unmentionables are concerned?
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  Also with the pets I have I would not want another harmed in my home.  I myself have no idea how two wolf-dogs will react to someone they don't know.

Again. YOU have no manners to speak of.
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Again I will not apologize to her until I know her better and what the cause for her tears were. 


I think it's pretty obvious what the cause of her tears were. YOU were a total bitch to a guest in your own home.
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  Master apologized to me for bringing the slave without any introduction or warning. 


YOU should have taken this time to get to know her.
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  Also my concern for her safety

This is BS. At least have the decency to be honest about how you really felt. YOu were concerned about YOURSELF and only YOURSELF.

I feel sorry for that poor girl, to be subjected to the likes of you.

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RE: Territorial? - 10/26/2006 5:45:38 AM   
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RE: Territorial? - 10/26/2006 6:17:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		I am going to defend Wolf since no one here seems to realize what has happened.  She is not trying to excuse herself and well she's not good with words either.  I made an agreement to only have a relationship with Wolf and not bring another in.  I broke that agreement.  That I am at fault for.  I know that Wolf has some issues, but I don't hold those against her.  Another thing.  Dakota and Coffee couldn't be placed anywhere since there is no backyard.  They also know how to open the doors.  I never called to let Wolf know that I was bringing a friend over and so there was no time to take Dakota and Coffee over to Wolf' dad's place.  I didn't see Wolf ever mistreat my friend once.  In fact the opposite.  Granted Wolf was unhappy over my friend doing the dishes and stuff.  But Wolf said nothing about it.  Not once did Wolf glare at my friend or follow her.  Wolf kept an eye on her due to our unmentionables and the dogs.  I know Wolf well enough to know that had either dog attacked that Wolf would've protected my friend.  After talking to my friend I finally had some answers. 

She didn't think Wolf was being mean or unwelcoming.  She said that she didn't know what to say to break the ice with Wolf and with the dogs she was scared.  When I asked why she was scared of the dogs my friend said she had been bitten as a kid.  At first she thought there was only one dog and that was Charlie, a 21 year old fox terrier.  He's very friendly and would rather lick you to death.  It was when she went looking for the bathroom that she accidently opened the oldest unmentionables room and was greeted by Coffee.  Scared she shut the door and went further down the hall.  She tripped over Dakota and started crying.  It was Wolf that rushed over to pull Dakota away.  What Wolf and I didn't know was that Dakota was licking my friend's face.  Wolf kept asking me if my friend was ok, but my friend insisted on going home. 

Wolf thought she had done something wrong and decided to come and post all this.  Many of you have said she was rude, unwelcoming and completely in the wrong.  That she owed my friend an apology.  She even tried to clarify from her point what happened today.  Like I said she is not good with words.  This is why she draws.  However I apologized to my friend thinking that Dakota had done something wrong to only find out later that my friend had a bad experience with dogs.  Also Wolf is carrying again so I'm giving her some leeway.  We are all sorry for any wrong impressions anyone got here and will not discuss our issues here again.


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RE: Territorial? - 10/26/2006 7:24:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		Sigh and this is what happens when dorks try and play poly- the new person gets hurt.

You're right- you were completely wrong for bringing someone into the relationship without the consent of the other person.  Completely wrong for not telling this new person what to honestly expect and to have her endure the situation at all.

However, as hostess, she was still wrong to not provide a decent welcoming to a guest.  Even if it was nothing more than a smile hello, offering of cookies and milk while she dragged you into the other room, reminded you of what a dumbass loser you were being and that you needed to take the girl home and apologize ten times over for being a dumbass loser, go back out into the living room, thank her for coming, apologize for not being prepared for company and then having the master and the poor new girl go off to enact said plan.

You both acted really irresponsibly and unfortunately someone completely innocent has gotten hurt in the process.

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RE: Territorial? - 10/26/2006 7:28:39 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

Sigh and this is what happens when dorks try and play poly- the new person gets hurt.

You're right- you were completely wrong for bringing someone into the relationship without the consent of the other person.  Completely wrong for not telling this new person what to honestly expect and to have her endure the situation at all.

However, as hostess, she was still wrong to not provide a decent welcoming to a guest.  Even if it was nothing more than a smile hello, offering of cookies and milk while she dragged you into the other room, reminded you of what a dumbass loser you were being and that you needed to take the girl home and apologize ten times over for being a dumbass loser, go back out into the living room, thank her for coming, apologize for not being prepared for company and then having the master and the poor new girl go off to enact said plan.

You both acted really irresponsibly and unfortunately someone completely innocent has gotten hurt in the process.

Nicely said LA

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RE: Territorial? - 10/26/2006 8:31:42 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Kalira

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

Sigh and this is what happens when dorks try and play poly- the new person gets hurt.

You're right- you were completely wrong for bringing someone into the relationship without the consent of the other person.  Completely wrong for not telling this new person what to honestly expect and to have her endure the situation at all.

However, as hostess, she was still wrong to not provide a decent welcoming to a guest.  Even if it was nothing more than a smile hello, offering of cookies and milk while she dragged you into the other room, reminded you of what a dumbass loser you were being and that you needed to take the girl home and apologize ten times over for being a dumbass loser, go back out into the living room, thank her for coming, apologize for not being prepared for company and then having the master and the poor new girl go off to enact said plan.

You both acted really irresponsibly and unfortunately someone completely innocent has gotten hurt in the process.

Nicely said LA


I second that. Very well said!

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RE: Territorial? - 10/26/2006 8:40:26 AM   
EvilGeoff


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Status: offline 		I appreciate the explanation, it certainly sheds more light on the situation as it occured.

I'm not going to harp about what happened, it was FUBAR and both of you recognize that.

Learn from the experience and continue to march.  You two have some serious communication issues to iron out, good luck to you both!

YIK,
- Geoff

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RE: Territorial? - 10/26/2006 8:41:24 AM   
Dnomyar


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Status: offline 		I will third it. Both women should have been completly aware of what was going to happen.

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RE: Territorial? - 10/26/2006 9:26:04 AM   
Siona


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Status: offline 		Perhaps if wolf had given a more detailed post, she may not have had her hand spanked so hard.

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RE: Territorial? - 10/26/2006 9:53:40 AM   
agirl


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Status: offline 		Yes, how difficult it must have been to have been faced with your broken agreement.

I'd be looking at the person I trust implicitely and the spectre of *doubt* would have crept in.

Mine is an unequal relationship.......on BOTH sides. The inequality does not lay in the fact that I must do what is required by him, that I must do things I do not want to do, that I must follow. It means that HE must lead, that responsibility lay with him, that he does what it takes to keep me following and trusting.

If he fucks with that, I cannot be blamed for my doubt. It's not equal.

agirl

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