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RE: nursing in public - 2/4/2005 2:56:27 PM   
mistoferin


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OMG that reminded me of the funniest story. When I was nursing my son my husband was hospitalized for a very serious surgery. He was in the hospital for about 10 days and I would stay with him during the day and pump my milk to take home for my son for the next day. One of the nurses was kind enough to let me store it in the nurse's lounge refrigerator. One day as I was walked in to store another quantity of it, I noticed a young intern using what I had stored in the fridge in his coffee. As he began to pour it I quickly said "Stop, that is my milk". He turned to me and said "Ok, I only used a little". To that I laughed and said "No, You don't understand....that is MY milk" and I pointed to my breasts. He turned bright red and went over and dumped his coffee. What I have always wondered is if that was his first cup or his third. For the next week every time he saw me he looked very flustered and would not look me in the eye.

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RE: nursing in public - 2/5/2005 7:19:38 PM   
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They recently came out with a study about breastfeeding and the bad side affects.
Of course, that is one in hundred's.


I'd suspect that study was paid for by either those that manufactor/distribute/sell formula, bottles, or baby foods.

I personally don't think there *can* be a bad side effect to breast feeding, since that is genetically what we are supposed to be doing.

The only bad side effect I think anyone could possibly give for that and be accurate would be sociatial reactions or the like, but that would be a result of how society views breast feeding, and not a result of breast feeding in itself.

JMO.

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RE: nursing in public - 2/5/2005 8:03:13 PM   
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The only bad side effect I think anyone could possibly give for that and be accurate would be sociatial reactions or the like, but that would be a result of how society views breast feeding, and not a result of breast feeding in itself.


Hey Shade,,,

acutally, I have known more than one person that has had to stop breastfeeding because their children were literally starving to death. To me that would be a very bad side effect :)

Honestly, I do agree that the survey would most likely be more as you suggested...

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RE: nursing in public - 2/5/2005 9:57:26 PM   
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acutally, I have known more than one person that has had to stop breastfeeding because their children were literally starving to death. To me that would be a very bad side effect :)


Like any other organ in the body, things can go wrong with breasts. However, that's pretty fairly uncommon. The worst 'side effect' that I have heard of is medication that is passed from the mother to the baby through her milk. That of course can be rectified by altering or stopping the medication.

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RE: nursing in public - 2/6/2005 1:23:43 AM   
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ORIGINAL: EStrict
acutally, I have known more than one person that has had to stop breastfeeding because their children were literally starving to death. To me that would be a very bad side effect :)


Really? I'd not heard of that! How is that possible, were the mother's not getting enough nutrients or not eating right or on meds or something?

And Nati, you're right too, have to admit, I hadn't thought of that!

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RE: nursing in public - 2/6/2005 5:32:36 AM   
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How is that possible, were the mother's not getting enough nutrients or not eating right or on meds or something?


All of the things you mentioned could cause this. Generally it is just a matter of the woman not helping the process along, either through poor diet or not nursing often enough. It is supply and demand and your body will meet that demand given the chance. There are many supplements available to increase milk production also (Brewer's Yeast works amazingly well). I hate to hear of women who stop nursing due to this as usually it only takes a good nursing coach to get them on track. Diet, water consumption, supplements, additional milk stimulation through manual pumping or sometimes, hot showers before nursing, just teaching her how to relax and let nature take it's course.....usually one or a combination of these things will lead to a happy nursing outcome.

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RE: nursing in public - 2/6/2005 7:33:26 AM   
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Really? I'd not heard of that! How is that possible, were the mother's not getting enough nutrients or not eating right or on meds or something?


this slave is one of those that u have not previously heard of.

since birth, and more obviously since puberty, this slave has had hormonal problems causing, among other things, severe nausea. this was amplified during pregnancy and it was extremely hard to gain the proper amount of weight during the pregnancies to the point of having to go to the hosptital to get shots to stop the nausea after two day bouts of keeping nothing down. (being dehydrated while pregnant is dangerous for both baby and mother) after giving birth (three times) the "morning-noon-and-night" sickness did not subside(and to this day still have problems with it) and as much as this slave wanted to breast feed her children for at least a year, her breasts did not produce enough milk and after a month of trying to keep enough down, they dried up. the most important thing that one can do for their babies immune system is to let them have the colostrum that first comes out of the breast--- no matter how you feel about continuing with breast feeding---even though this slave knew by the third one that she wouldn't be physically able to breast feed as long as she would like, she at least wanted to give them what she could.

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RE: nursing in public - 2/6/2005 11:49:49 PM   
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since birth, and more obviously since puberty, this slave has had hormonal problems causing, among other things, severe nausea. this was amplified during pregnancy and it was extremely hard to gain the proper amount of weight during the pregnancies to the point of having to go to the hosptital to get shots to stop the nausea after two day bouts of keeping nothing down.


Awww!

Thank you for sharing something that was undoubtably painful for you in order to help educate me from your first hand experience!

It is certainly not something I'd ever really thought of!

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RE: nursing in public - 2/7/2005 5:16:57 AM   
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Firstly..
Bewbies are not there to look pretty have clamps attatched to or be splayed over mags ..
They are THERE for a reason.
To nurse babies.
Babies by their very nature are not very patient creatures.
I hapen to be nursing right now..
Well..not actually AS I am typing but you know what I mean.
I feed her when she is hungry,..when she needs it.
I try to time my trips out so as not to coincide with a feed..but it happens..and I feed her.
iIt does happen..but I am damned if I will be taking her into the toilets to feed her..why should I.
I dont see the offended types taking their coffee into the loo's..she is just having her drink n snack.so why cant she do so there..same as everyone else.
I dont understand WHY its offensive..
they are MADE for that purpose..its more than natuaral its a bloody nessecity ..
Perhaps you would prefer that I get frustrated and upset..SHE get frustrated and upset..and everyone around me likewise as she yells n yells because she is hungry.
Most babies find it hard to swap from breast to bottle so expressing milk to take with you isnt always an option..neither is there always time to do so.

I personally think that those who think it should be done in private..or hidden away should look to themselves as to WHY they feel like this.
They are breasts..you see probably more breast shown by that young girl in the low cut top with her thong hanging out over the waist of her jeans than you do the average breastfeeding mother.
Its a baby eating for goodness sakes..
Its not like I am waggling my nipples in your face or aiming milk at you across the room..I am simply satisfying my daughters hunger.

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RE: nursing in public - 2/7/2005 9:27:54 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: mistoferin

He turned to me and said "Ok, I only used a little". To that I laughed and said "No, You don't understand....that is MY milk" and I pointed to my breasts.


OMG this made me laugh so hard I was almost choking. LMAO
If it'd been me.. I would have asked you if you minded my using it anyway. LOL
But, then I have a fetish for the female breast, and it's natural function.
When my son was nursing, yeah, I had some to on occassion.
I don't mind if mothers feed their young this way in public.
I don't have a thing against it and I won't stare. It is natural thing.
If you don't like it, just don't look.
If she is comfortable enought to do it there, more power to her.

Just my 2 cents
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RE: nursing in public - 2/7/2005 10:44:02 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ShadeDiva

And I am SOOOOOOOOOO freaking jealous when it's 110+ out here and a guy strips off his shirt. ARGH! That will usually send a thousand curses muttering under my breath for not being able to do that without getting in trouble. Though when I was a lot younger - that - ah - didn't always stop me LOL!

I kinda think the guys started taking off their shirts more just to see me get pissy and do it too. LOL.

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If we're not allowed to take off our shirts during the summer, I say anytime we see naked male chests in the summer, we force them to put on a bra! Think they'd get a little less prudish about women's breasts fairly quickly if that were the rule?

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RE: nursing in public - 2/7/2005 10:58:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Sirensong

Its not like I am waggling my nipples in your face or aiming milk at you across the room..



*splurt* That's a good one! Now, if only we *could* squirt some annoying person from across the room (just kidding) :)

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RE: nursing in public - 2/7/2005 11:47:01 PM   
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When I was married, my ex-wife would pump her breasts and save the milk in baby bottles for the occasions when we were out in public and our son was hungry. I don't understand why that should be such an inconvenience for mothers to do.
Though I don't have a problem with it, the fact is, some people are uncomfortable seeing breastfeeding in public. I see it as just being courteous in public to use a bottle (or cover up). But nowadays, rights are emphasized and responsibilities are gone. That is also why we have people who are inappropriate with cell phones in public. It's their right to talk. Screw everyone else.

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RE: nursing in public - 2/8/2005 3:22:42 AM   
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Estring as I stated in my post.
Some babies cannot take to the bottle.
If they are given a bottle they become confused(its actually referred to as nipple confusion).
They dont suck well..or they choke..its very frustrating for both them and the mother concerned.
know this as two of my daughters were pem..and as such had a TERRIBLE time if I ever offerred them a bottle

Neither is it always convinient to have a bottle..Its much easier to have warm milk ready to hand without the sterilization of teats and bottles.
It doesnt need warming up..whic mean that if you were away from somewhere where you COULD have warmed milk its no longer a problem.

I still fail to see why you o any other person could be ofended by something that has been going on for thousands of years and is purely a feeding connecting comforting process tween Mum and baby..
I am damned SURE that the girl in the skanky over the waistband thing and no bra with her nipples poking through her tight shirt isnt offensive to you.
So why should feeding a baby be?

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RE: nursing in public - 2/8/2005 5:10:22 AM   
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quote:

we have people who are inappropriate with cell phones in public.


Maybe it's because I am a woman but I truly fail to be able to make the leap between cell phones and hungry infants.

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RE: nursing in public - 2/8/2005 6:50:59 AM   
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Cell/mobiles... are not a necessity.
Feeding a baby is.
You cannot compare the two.

Some babies cannot take a bottle if they are used to a breast. Some mothers cannot express milk either by hand nor by pump.

When a baby is suckling, there is no need to cover up... because the breast is covered up by the baby!

It is becoming more difficult for bottles to be heated, because shops/restaurents are in fear of being sued because the milks heated to high and they cannot give out hot water for fear of it scalding and again being sued. Toilets are not hygenic to feed a child in and neither are 'nursing rooms'... (people should try visiting them).

All it is, is a child feeding. No one is polluting your lungs, your ears, or risking your life in any way. All you have to do is not look at the person.

Feeding a baby in public is not dangerous or harmful to others.

Smoking/cells/cd players/mp3 players/alcohol consumption/carrying fire arms are not something people HAVE to do in public. But they do.


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RE: nursing in public - 2/8/2005 11:49:08 AM   
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Smoking/cells/cd players/mp3 players/alcohol consumption/carrying fire arms are not something people HAVE to do in public. But they do.



Bravo!! I find those things (sans one) offensive... but I don't see anyone leaving the room to light up, turning off their headphones and joining the rest of the world or refraining from drinking until slobbery drunk.

(I'm not going to comment on the fire arms however since I'm keen on them and think that certain people ought to be able to carry in public: police, bodyguards, etc.)

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RE: nursing in public - 2/8/2005 12:26:33 PM   
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i was not able to breast feed, my baby would just not latch on, and nurses tried to help, i did all the things you're suppose to, i barely produced any milk at all, and he would he just wouldn't have it.... i don't see what's so offensive about a woman breast feeding, i am sure i wouldn't of just tossed my boob out in public without finding a disctrete way of breast feeding, if i would of been able to, but anyhow, that's just me..... i certainly don't get offended by watching a mother nurse her child.

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RE: nursing in public - 2/8/2005 1:45:54 PM   
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quote:

(I'm not going to comment on the fire arms however since I'm keen on them and think that certain people ought to be able to carry in public: police, bodyguards, etc.)


Well an armed society IS a polite society.

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RE: nursing in public - 2/11/2005 9:28:57 PM   
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When I was breast feeding my babies, my breasts were just that-feeding mechanisms. They were designed for the sole purpose for nurishing our babies. They no longer are associated in a sexual manner to nursing mothers when they're painfully full of milk and feel like they could rupture with the slightest wrong move. I can remember a few times when I was in public, feeling wet and looking down to find my whole front soaked with milk, and then looking up to see everyone staring at me. It made me feel like I was some kind of alien creature or I had some kind of abnormality.

I personally never nursed in public because I was fortunate enough that my daughters took to any type of nipple. And I had to use a pump inbetween feedings because I produced too much milk. But I completely understand where some mothers are comfortable and dont think twice about it to nurse in public, because it's become their normal way of life. 24/7 day after day, nature at it's best. It's natural, bonding, loving, and beautiful.

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