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SirKenin -> RE: "Bigots" come in all sizes and colors (10/28/2006 2:16:29 PM)
Actually, I am thin and I wish I could put more weight on... It just seems that it is easier to lose it than gain it...

LotusSong -> RE: "Bigots" come in all sizes and colors (10/28/2006 2:18:06 PM)
Let's consider this next statement. When you are making love, would you rather have a fit man on top of you or a 400 pound man? (this is for those so inclined to have a male partner) When you are giving head.. do you prefer to caress a toned torso or push the beer belly out of the way?

cuddleheart50 -> RE: "Bigots" come in all sizes and colors (10/28/2006 2:24:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SirKenin Actually, I am thin and I wish I could put more weight on... It just seems that it is easier to lose it than gain it... Somebody hold me back!!!!!!!!! [:D]

SlaveAkasha -> RE: "Bigots" come in all sizes and colors (10/28/2006 2:51:39 PM)
My Master is the same way, he can't gain weight.. ugh! I love him anyway though. My ex-gf was that way also. When she came out of the military, she was soooooo little and people thought she was sick. I don't think it's right to judge others, either way. People would be surprised to know that she eats more than I do, but she is thinner. It's not her fault, and it's not mine. Like I said, the eating disorders have messed it all up. I have worse bulimia that most little people do, and actually, a lot of overweight women are bulimic. I lost a lot of weight when I first started, that was throwing up, up to ten times a day. Then your body gets conditioned, and anything has to come up.. even just lettuce. Now, I still get sick all the time, but my body is so screwed, that it doesn't make me lose anymore. It would be a wonderful world, if we could all just be judged on our hearts..but that won't happen. Until then, we just do the best we can to make it, and hope that no one decides to kill us because we aren't like them (gay, race, religion). Masters Akasha

SirKenin -> RE: "Bigots" come in all sizes and colors (10/28/2006 3:01:38 PM)
You know, the reason that many people can not lose weight that starve themselves is a surprisingly simple one. When a body gets used to doing without food, it stores every little thing it actually does get as fat so that it can draw on it later. That is why these starvation diets do not work. I personally find chubby people sexy. Not fat, mind you, but chubby. My wife is chubby and I love it. [:)]

SlaveAkasha -> RE: "Bigots" come in all sizes and colors (10/28/2006 3:10:25 PM)
I know, and that is what has happened with me. I literally starved my body, I would maybe take in 100 cal. a day, and then throw those up. That is why I am all messed up now. I can eat, and eat healthy, but I have to work much harder to even lose a pound. It's taking a bit, but I will be a healthy size soon. I am bigger boned (really) and will never be a size six, but I will be a very, very hot size 12 or 14 and that is just fine. It's hard to gain, it's hard to lose..and the last thing either one of those groups need is someone being rude to them for it. Akasha

SirKenin -> RE: "Bigots" come in all sizes and colors (10/28/2006 3:24:39 PM)
mmmm. size 14 makes for very sexy curves... sigh

Noah -> RE: "Bigots" come in all sizes and colors (10/28/2006 4:43:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LotusSong Let's consider this next statement. When you are making love, would you rather have a fit man on top of you or a 400 pound man? (this is for those so inclined to have a male partner) When you are giving head.. do you prefer to caress a toned torso or push the beer belly out of the way? Hey. A 400 lb. guy is in shape. Round is a shape. I mean would you rather have a fit guy on top of you or a Top guy fit into you? Seriously, Lotus, I'm guessing that your coy verbal construction was to insulate you (like an adipose layer) against being called out for declaring big bodies ugly, big bellies distasteful, and furthermore being unable to imagine why anyone would honestly disagree. Speaking in purely hypothetical and and non-personal terms--since you so kindly didn't make any personal comments about fat or beer-bellied folks--some people would get hung up over horsey, masculine facial features (this is for those so inclined to have a female partner), splotchy complexion, man hands, and obsessive concern over externalities. Thankfully others can shove things like that out of their way, or even find each or all of these things attractive in themselves--however hard that might be for some of us to imagine. Now let's consider this: It is possible for a human being to be more concerned for the person with whom they share intimacy than with the statistics or pejorative terms which can be employed to describe that person's body. Weird, huh? The main thing, though, is that we can have this civilized conversation without anyone casting aspersions toward individuals who might happen to fit a given generic description.

Lordandmaster -> RE: "Bigots" come in all sizes and colors (10/28/2006 4:46:45 PM)
Pearls before swine, Noah.

Noah -> RE: "Bigots" come in all sizes and colors (10/28/2006 4:53:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster Pearls before swine, Noah. We'll see. Anyway what the fuck happened to your elephants? Not that I don't appreciate that illustration of Florida's minority voter qualification procedure.

candystripper -> RE: "Bigots" come in all sizes and colors (10/28/2006 4:58:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WetHotGoddess *I think the points everyone has made are all valid as they lend first-hand perspective. All I know is how I personally have been treated in my lifetime.* *I am small breasted and thin- I am NOT a model- I get very annoyed that all models are so fucking perfect too!* Women especially are very uppity if they have huge tits. They seem to think it means they are better than everyone else, just like men with their cocks. Who said those skinny bitches get breast reductions? Those are implants, people. Thin people RARELY have 44-D breasts. *It is assumed that if you are fat, you are lazy and eat too much and if you're skinny, you have an eating disorder.* *It seems to me that the "robust" folks here on the boards get a lot more acceptance and sympathy than those who are small.* Ok, gloves off. i have substantial boobage and WHG, You have no freaking idea the annoyance/danger/insults/assumptions i have had to cope with on account of that fact. *How in the hell* would A/anyone on CM know what another member looked liked *unless* that member made a point of posting a pic/describing herself/etc. In short, it's *impossible* for P/pl on a message board to fk with You on account of Yr appearance unless You give them the necessary information. IMO, You are confusing real life, Hollywood, tabloid newspapers and a message board into one big "poor, poor me" attitude. i personally don't give a flying fk if Oprah gains or loses weight. i can't stand her because of what she says and how she presents herself. That gooey, we're all chums posture of hers drive me batshit. Her freaking changes in weight have diddly-shit to do with that. ~consider Yourself bitch-slapped~ candystripper (now using the block button)

SirKenin -> RE: "Bigots" come in all sizes and colors (10/28/2006 5:08:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: candystripperOk, gloves off. i have substantial boobage and WHG, You have no freaking idea the annoyance/danger/insults/assumptions i have had to cope with on account of that fact. I can second this, and not because I am a woman obviously, but because My wife has exactly the same problem. Do you have any idea how fucking annoying it is to have all the guys on her MSN harass her and ask her for naked pics or a webcam session because of it? GEEZ.. Like.. Get a LIFE people. As for Oprah, she is a dipshit. Tyra Banks is another dipshit. She should stick to the American Models show or whatever the hell it is and leave the talk shows to someone who knows what the hell they are talking about... And to hell with the Oprah book club.

LotusSong -> RE: "Bigots" come in all sizes and colors (10/28/2006 5:13:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Noah Hey. A 400 lb. guy is in shape. Round is a shape. I mean would you rather have a fit guy on top of you or a Top guy fit into you? Seriously, Lotus, I'm guessing that your coy verbal construction was to insulate you (like an adipose layer) against being called out for declaring big bodies ugly, big bellies distasteful, and furthermore being unable to imagine why anyone would honestly disagree. Speaking in purely hypothetical and and non-personal terms--since you so kindly didn't make any personal comments about fat or beer-bellied folks--some people would get hung up over horsey, masculine facial features (this is for those so inclined to have a female partner), splotchy complexion, man hands, and obsessive concern over externalities. Thankfully others can shove things like that out of their way, or even find each or all of these things attractive in themselves--however hard that might be for some of us to imagine. Now let's consider this: It is possible for a human being to be more concerned for the person with whom they share intimacy than with the statistics or pejorative terms which can be employed to describe that person's body. Weird, huh? The main thing, though, is that we can have this civilized conversation without anyone casting aspersions toward individuals who might happen to fit a given generic description. I posted what I posted to give a mental image. Guys are visual creatures.. and in some cases, we women are also. There are things that turn us on and things that turn us off. We should not have to appologise for them.

juliaoceania -> RE: "Bigots" come in all sizes and colors (10/28/2006 5:18:59 PM)
quote: I am small breasted and thin- I am NOT a model- I get very annoyed that all models are so fucking perfect too! Models are not perfect, no one is perfect Pretty girls are people too Many pretty girls that rely on their looks are exploited for it and are the most insecure people on planet earth... it is not a good thing to define oneself based upon one's appearance... something that you would do well to learn quote: Women especially are very uppity if they have huge tits. They seem to think it means they are better than everyone else, just like men with their cocks. Who said those skinny bitches get breast reductions? Those are implants, people. Thin people RARELY have 44-D breasts. As a busty female who is not obese and could not lose her chest no matter what without surgical intervention I could tell you stories about how the grass is always greener. Less well endowed women do not have to put up with men having conversations with the "girls", assumptions that they have less brains because they have big tits, clothes that were made for flat women, etc etc etc. Add in back pain for some women and you might understand that it ain't all what it is cracked up to be, but I made peace with it long ago, nor am I a PAM about what nature gave me. quote: *It is assumed that if you are fat, you are lazy and eat too much and if you're skinny, you have an eating disorder.* Both can be based upon eating disorders, so those who have them should be kind to each other and understand that unhealthy relationships with food plague many people and that does not make them worthless whether skinny or fat.. what is inside is much more important and you really should work on that instead of obsessing about your skinny ass and flat chest. If you have not noticed, most people on planet earth are not perfect and we all need love regardless. quote: *It seems to me that the "robust" folks here on the boards get a lot more acceptance and sympathy than those who are small.* Not that I am particularly robust, and even though I am very athletic, I have to say I am tolerant to everyone... it seems you need to take your own advice.

Sinergy -> RE: "Bigots" come in all sizes and colors (10/28/2006 5:34:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: juliaoceania Both can be based upon eating disorders, so those who have them should be kind to each other and understand that unhealthy relationships with food plague many people and that does not make them worthless whether skinny or fat.. Hello A/all, There are any number of medicines and medical problems which can cause or contribute to weight gain. The ones that come off the top of my head include antidepressants, thyroid problems, diabetes, certain steroids, etc. A person who is obese or rail thin may not have any control over their weight. They might have a medical condition forcing them to put on/ lose weight when they subsist on a diet of celery and water. When people criticize people who are overweight I have difficulty taking much of what they say seriously, in the same way I have trouble taking things seriously that are said by intolerant or ignorant people. But that is just me, and I could be wrong. Sinergy

popeye1250 -> RE: "Bigots" come in all sizes and colors (10/28/2006 5:39:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sinergy quote: ORIGINAL: juliaoceania Both can be based upon eating disorders, so those who have them should be kind to each other and understand that unhealthy relationships with food plague many people and that does not make them worthless whether skinny or fat.. Hello A/all, There are any number of medicines and medical problems which can cause or contribute to weight gain. The ones that come off the top of my head include antidepressants, thyroid problems, diabetes, certain steroids, etc. A person who is obese or rail thin may not have any control over their weight. They might have a medical condition forcing them to put on/ lose weight when they subsist on a diet of celery and water. When people criticize people who are overweight I have difficulty taking much of what they say seriously, in the same way I have trouble taking things seriously that are said by intolerant or ignorant people. But that is just me, and I could be wrong. Sinergy And of course no-one's overweight because of Ben & Jerry's, Mc Donald's, Dominoe's Pizza, or Sara Lee's and no excercise!

LotusSong -> RE: "Bigots" come in all sizes and colors (10/28/2006 5:39:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sinergy Hello A/all, There are any number of medicines and medical problems which can cause or contribute to weight gain. The ones that come off the top of my head include antidepressants, thyroid problems, diabetes, certain steroids, etc. A person who is obese or rail thin may not have any control over their weight. They might have a medical condition forcing them to put on/ lose weight when they subsist on a diet of celery and water. When people criticize people who are overweight I have difficulty taking much of what they say seriously, in the same way I have trouble taking things seriously that are said by intolerant or ignorant people. But that is just me, and I could be wrong. Sinergy No matter what causes a person to be one way or another.. does not have any bearing on what a person prefers. Ask any number of construction workers doing cat calls at the ladies during lunch time.. I don't think they stop to ask them what their medical history is so as to make sure they don't offend anyone unnecessarily. :)

subinside -> RE: "Bigots" come in all sizes and colors (10/28/2006 5:48:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WetHotGoddess When I was younger I was VERY skinny. Everyone hated me. I was ridiculed. I was ugly and dorky. Of course, since I was skinny and not fat, I got no sympathy. And now, people wonder why I am such a bitch. Hmm.. i was a toothpick until i was 15... and i was 2 yrs ahead of myself in school(as in skipped ahead two grades), and i wore glasses, and i was mouthy... Guess what? i got picked on.. Hell, i got picked on so much i had to be relocated out of one junior high cause they couldn't guarantee how long i'd live. (Jane/Finch area of Toronto is not a good place to be mouthy if you can't back it up with brawn).. Am i a bitch? well yes, yes i am. But i'm not about to attribute this to it being everyone elses fault cause i was picked on. quote: ORIGINAL: WetHotGoddess These days being oversized is in style. Being able to "eat like a man" and consume mass quantities of food is something that is marketed to show a "healthy" appetite. Why is there a double-standard concerning obesity as opposed to being thin? It is OK to be fat but NOT ok to be skinny.. Why is that? Hmmm you obviously don't live in the same world i do.. because nowhere here is it ok to be fat.. nor is fat the way most people i know want to be. i get looks every day because of my weight and, yes, i'm about 40 lbs heftier than i should be.. so i'd love to know just where it is on this continent where being fat is so revered. quote: ORIGINAL: WetHotGoddess I never had anyone compliment me on being thin. Instead, I was insulted. I was asked if I was sick. Skinny people have feelings too. Why are only the chubby folks given consideration? Who is the majority, after all? Well, usually, if i see folks walking around with more bone than muscle mass under their skin i'm going to assume they may have an eating condition.. but then again, i work in a hospital where we have an eating disorders program and have become accustomed to seeing underweight people wandering the building. quote: ORIGINAL: WetHotGoddess I never had an eating disorder. I was just "skinny".. Oh BTW... being called "skinny" is NOT a compliment. It is a derrogatory comment! Of course, I should take it, and not call someone who is obese "fat", right? It is only derogatory if you allow it to insult you. My advise would be to grow a bit of a thicker skin. Not everyone is familiar with the term slender, skinny may be the only word they know to describe someone who is not fat. quote: ORIGINAL: WetHotGoddess *I , like many who claim to be open minded, really are just as biased and closed minded as the rest of society.* *Before accusing others of bigotry.. look in the mirror.* Funny how these things work.. oh.. and by the way... quote: ORIGINAL: CreoleCook Truth be told? Obesity is actually running rampant in the United States right now, and if obesity is defined as anyone who is 20 lbs or more above their target weight, I guess I'm fat, too. (even though I'm 6'3", 232 lbs.) Well Darlin... If You're fat, then i'm skinny.. but either way, i sure as hell love the way Your package is put together. [;)]

Noah -> RE: "Bigots" come in all sizes and colors (10/28/2006 5:59:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LotusSong I posted what I posted to give a mental image. Guys are visual creatures.. and in some cases, we women are also. And the point of giving said mental image was anything else than to "illustrate" how foul fat people are? I'm listening. quote: There are things that turn us on and things that turn us off. We should not have to appologise for them. I agree. We find our positive and negative preferences within and they are none of anyone else's business..until we decide to gratuitously publicize and promote them. Publicly and disingenuously setting up rhetorical devices intended to demonstrate the ineluctable truth of our prejudiced views, now, I think that belongs in a different box.

LotusSong -> RE: "Bigots" come in all sizes and colors (10/28/2006 6:07:07 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Noah quote: ORIGINAL: LotusSong I posted what I posted to give a mental image. Guys are visual creatures.. and in some cases, we women are also. And the point of giving said mental image was anything else than to "illustrate" how foul fat people are? I'm listening. quote: There are things that turn us on and things that turn us off. We should not have to apologize for them. I agree. We find our positive and negative preferences within and they are none of anyone else's business..until we decide to gratuitously publicize and promote them. Publicly and disingenuously setting up rhetorical devices intended to demonstrate the ineluctable truth of our prejudiced views, now, I think that belongs in a different box. Yup.. I'll go on record saying fat is not my favorite situation. I'm sorry if my visual image was unsettling to you. So.. got any nekked pictures of yourself, Noah?

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