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When Master seems pathetic... - 11/6/2006 3:03:13 PM

darkclouds

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Master is a very intelligent man, but when it comes to people, esp. female submissives, he is an idiot and kinda pathetic. We like to find others to play with us, which we both enjoy, but it is often that I find the women whom he chooses to email with are either fake profiles or just dumb as a stump. They wont email him for days, or be wishy-washy about meeting or talking and he gives them chance after chance after chance.

When he does this, it makes me question him and chances my perception of him a bit. I mean, he is more then likely thinking with his little head, right? But it still makes me want to go "Dude, what the hell are you thinking?! Where is that domly type that i know and love." And the fact that I am his slave makes me think that if he is pathetic, then what exactly does that make me??

Does anyone else ever have to deal with this? How do you handle it? There are times, when I turn out to be right about the flaky woman on the other end of the emails, that I have to bite my tongue so that 'I told you so' doesnt come out of my mouth. Also, I dont particularly like thinking of Master as pathetic, doesnt do well for my head or for my adoration of him. How do I make it better?

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RE: When Master seems pathetic... - 11/6/2006 3:10:12 PM

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Well, every dom has their weakness (it's a mega secret that no sub/slave is ever supposed to actually say that they consciously know, but I'm a switch so I'm confused and scared and can get away with it).

Hopefully their weakness just makes you smile and be amused and is something YOU can compensate for with your own abilities.

And this particular weakness is a VERY COMMON one- I call it the rock star syndrome- he's lusting for groupies.

Depending on the particular relationship you have- sitting down and just flat out telling him what he's doing and how he's acting and how you feel about it is really the best way to go. But if your dom is sensitive about it, perhaps build up a case of track records and have a more heart felt talka bout how you really want to form a long term relationship, and he seems to just crave the attention more than anything.

If he's open to seeing his behavior, you can help go through it and to a better place (prepare for this process to take many months), and if he's not, you'll have to just grin and bear it as best you can. Doms can have their frenzy as well and you just have to work with them on it. Doms aren't born perfect and without flaws (again that's my confused and scared switch perspective as no "true slave" would ever believe such of their "true master).

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RE: When Master seems pathetic... - 11/6/2006 4:32:08 PM

MagiksSlave

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Um... WOW

I cant beleave youd come on an open boards and say that.. Its one thing to think negativley another to bring conserns to him and a total other to bring it to strangers in a public forum!!!!

Maybe he has poor judgment online many of us to online is kinda hard to tell certain things but come on, you think you could have embaressed him a little more??

ok sorry guess Im in a bad mood but Id never do this to my Master its just not nice!!!

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RE: When Master seems pathetic... - 11/6/2006 4:33:12 PM

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Aye, and mine is onigiri.

quote:

ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

Well, every dom has their weakness

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RE: When Master seems pathetic... - 11/6/2006 5:07:58 PM

thisishis

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quote:

ORIGINAL: MagiksSlave

Um... WOW

I cant beleave youd come on an open boards and say that.. Its one thing to think negativley another to bring conserns to him and a total other to bring it to strangers in a public forum!!!!

Maybe he has poor judgment online many of us to online is kinda hard to tell certain things but come on, you think you could have embaressed him a little more??

ok sorry guess Im in a bad mood but Id never do this to my Master its just not nice!!!

Magik's slave

i admire her ability to remain realistic, at least. i admire that as a slave, she has conveyed that it's not always a perfect relationship that she lives in. It takes balls to step up to the plate as a slave and admit that she has a master and that being a master doesn't automatically render him as perfect.
i'd rather read a post like her's than the countless and all too common other posts offered by those who would rather pretend that everything is perfect in their relationships.
Give the girl a break. She asked for advice ... not for unconstructive critisism.

P.S. It is possibly and fairly likely that the OP was probably on an alternative account/her master probaly has no clue that it's her posting.

(For the record ... it's NOT me ... lol)

< Message edited by thisishis -- 11/6/2006 5:12:17 PM >

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RE: When Master seems pathetic... - 11/6/2006 5:09:54 PM

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Great advice....... as usual.

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RE: When Master seems pathetic... - 11/6/2006 5:35:12 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: MagiksSlave

Um... WOW

I cant beleave youd come on an open boards and say that.. Its one thing to think negativley another to bring conserns to him and a total other to bring it to strangers in a public forum!!!!

Maybe he has poor judgment online many of us to online is kinda hard to tell certain things but come on, you think you could have embaressed him a little more??

ok sorry guess Im in a bad mood but Id never do this to my Master its just not nice!!!

Magik's slave

I agree- it was quite brave of her to come and so openly admit this. Most people just ignore it or pretend it's not there. The truth is, the majority of doms in the world ARE pathetic in a lot of ways- and yet most of them have committed relationships.

What are we to do? I say give helpful advice. Relationships aren't born perfect- they are worked into realistic perfection.

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RE: When Master seems pathetic... - 11/6/2006 5:55:17 PM

KatyLied

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Oh, wow, you are brave. Does all of this make you wonder what was going through his mind when he chose you? I can see how this would change your perception of him, and not for the good.

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RE: When Master seems pathetic... - 11/6/2006 7:27:14 PM

MasterFireMaam

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quote:

ORIGINAL: darkclouds
....And the fact that I am his slave makes me think that if he is pathetic, then what exactly does that make me??

Flip that around to the positive...he picked you so he can't be all that stupid and pathetic, right?

People are people (so why should it be?...). At the end of the day, we all sit on the pot with our pants around our ankles. Like most of us, he's attracted to a certain type. I'm hopelessly attracted to the little goth/emo boys. God help me.

Also, put it in perspective...you two are looking for a casual play partner, not an additional member of the household. He's allowed to indulge the fantasy there a bit. If he were choosing for the household, I'm betting he'd be looking at other qualities, too.

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RE: When Master seems pathetic... - 11/6/2006 8:06:38 PM

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To the OP: i too have a Master who sometimes i question about when He will learn the lesson, but i know that He picked me and that i make Him happy.

Granted He and i are looking for a sister slave, and have gone through many a quicksand trap so to speak with one girl, but sadly He learned the hard way and is now extremely picky on what He wants in the new girl.

i love Him dearly and when He asks for my input i am sometimes reluctant to give it to Him for fear of coming off as not wanting a sister slave, which i do but i'm not in a hurry for one.

i find that the best ones fall into your lap and are huggable, snuggleable, loveable and overall are great listeners.

give Him a break, He is after all "Human," and God knows we humans all make mistakes, some of which we learn from and some of which we don't.

He picked you though and you need to let Him pick a play partner that He likes however He may pick her.

i'm not trying to belittle you, but show you that He loves you and picked you, so He knows in His own strange way what He is doing, even if it means making a mistake in finding a play partner.

knowing that He loves you is what will carry the two of you through this, as will communication.

tell Him that you are worried He may get hurt one day by going about finding a playmate the way He is and why you feel that way, just remember keep it respectful.

i wish you all the best in working this out.

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RE: When Master seems pathetic... - 11/6/2006 8:32:54 PM

juliaoceania

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All human beings can be pathetic... look in the mirror, I bet you can be pathetic too (and I am not trying to insult you, I am pathetic when it comes to insulting people).

There are things that you might find pathetic that someone else would find endearing... it is all that glass half full or empty thing.

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RE: When Master seems pathetic... - 11/6/2006 8:48:35 PM

LuckyAlbatross

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quote:

ORIGINAL: cariad
Granted He and i are looking for a sister slave, and have gone through many a quicksand trap so to speak with one girl, but sadly He learned the hard way and is now extremely picky on what He wants in the new girl.

I plead as deeply as I can with every poly bone in my body- please drop the "sister" until you've been in a serious relationship for quite awhile and that relationship forms itself naturally.

You're freaking out on another thread because you don't think you can perform well on another woman and here you are seeking a deep emotional bond that rivals blood and family and decades of life together???? When even you and your master are long distance with eachother so you cannot have built a daily consistent secure foundation with which to move forward together on??

I support you seeking for the HBB, as tough a world as it is. Please don't make it needlessly harder on everyone by making it a "sister." I can't tell you how many relationships hobble themselves before they even start with the pressure to form something "special."

< Message edited by LuckyAlbatross -- 11/6/2006 8:49:43 PM >

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RE: When Master seems pathetic... - 11/6/2006 9:08:26 PM

PrimitiveLogic

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Find stable partners, not a stable of partners.
LA's quote says it all.

For emerging dominants:
Create an ownership of self first...
then invite one to join you.
Make it unique to the two of you.
Just don't pretend it something else, when it's not what you profess it to be.
If you're not satisfied with yourself; you will never find satisfaction through the use of others.
For searching submissives:
Don't get frustrated expecting someone to be something other than who they are. That IS who they are.
Just as in vanilla expectations: Don't pursue a dominant in the hopes of changing him. It doesn't work there...it doesn't work here. Whatever predominant traits manifest regardless of context....that is who he is.
As a very wise and intimately dear domme would say,"It shouldn't have to be this much of a struggle in the early moments of a relationship. It will only get worse."

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RE: When Master seems pathetic... - 11/6/2006 9:26:43 PM

MadamShy

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I agree with MagiksSlave

If any of My boys ever talked like that about Me .. after all I am Not perfect Hell I hope I am Not perfect and I have My faults .... as for searching for others Here I have had Bad calls as well ...

as for a stable of partners

I own two men and have another under consideration ...
One 24/7
Shyspurrkat
One parttime but in My personal collar
stevebrat
and another under consideration
needingmistress

ownership of More than one should Not be in question and I'm sure if any ask any of them they would say they Care about there brothers very much! ....

infact ... stevebrat or mousey as I have renamed him is very protective over his brother purrkat ... they are Not Bi sexual ... and work so well together when there is a task they need to tackle ... mousey[stevebrat] loves to work with My Daughter who .. By the way here is PrincessAmanda ... when she became 18 she asked to be trained and wanted to enter the lifestyle ...

so many have written to her calling her a Whore because she only takes on Pro sessions ... no one thinks about there words and how it hurts ... She has a very full life with 2 jobs school and a stable [horses] to run she can't put her all in a Personal slave at this time yet she loves to play but can't commit back ...

yes I also Pro along with My lifestyle ... I like to think of it as a service to subs that can't commit yet need a outlet ... Sex.. has no place in our scenes I will admit were Both Safe Sadists ... [such a oxymoron there] but its true .."

I feel bad for the Master that owns a slave that would Publicly call her Master "kinda pathetic"

Oh yes call her Brave .. and yes were all tired of hearing about the perfect I just think she should have watched her words a bit better ...

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RE: When Master seems pathetic... - 11/6/2006 9:30:31 PM

Aileen68

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quote:

ORIGINAL: darkclouds

Master is a very intelligent man, but when it comes to people, esp. female submissives, he is an idiot and kinda pathetic. We like to find others to play with us, which we both enjoy, but it is often that I find the women whom he chooses to email with are either fake profiles or just dumb as a stump. They wont email him for days, or be wishy-washy about meeting or talking and he gives them chance after chance after chance.

When he does this, it makes me question him and chances my perception of him a bit. I mean, he is more then likely thinking with his little head, right? But it still makes me want to go "Dude, what the hell are you thinking?! Where is that domly type that i know and love." And the fact that I am his slave makes me think that if he is pathetic, then what exactly does that make me??

Does anyone else ever have to deal with this? How do you handle it? There are times, when I turn out to be right about the flaky woman on the other end of the emails, that I have to bite my tongue so that 'I told you so' doesnt come out of my mouth. Also, I dont particularly like thinking of Master as pathetic, doesnt do well for my head or for my adoration of him. How do I make it better?

And yet he's with you.
I love when people don't see the irony in their words.

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RE: When Master seems pathetic... - 11/7/2006 4:20:05 AM

darkclouds

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Aileen68

quote:

ORIGINAL: darkclouds

Master is a very intelligent man, but when it comes to people, esp. female submissives, he is an idiot and kinda pathetic. We like to find others to play with us, which we both enjoy, but it is often that I find the women whom he chooses to email with are either fake profiles or just dumb as a stump. They wont email him for days, or be wishy-washy about meeting or talking and he gives them chance after chance after chance.

When he does this, it makes me question him and chances my perception of him a bit. I mean, he is more then likely thinking with his little head, right? But it still makes me want to go "Dude, what the hell are you thinking?! Where is that domly type that i know and love." And the fact that I am his slave makes me think that if he is pathetic, then what exactly does that make me??

Does anyone else ever have to deal with this? How do you handle it? There are times, when I turn out to be right about the flaky woman on the other end of the emails, that I have to bite my tongue so that 'I told you so' doesnt come out of my mouth. Also, I dont particularly like thinking of Master as pathetic, doesnt do well for my head or for my adoration of him. How do I make it better?

And yet he's with you.
I love when people don't see the irony in their words.

Did you not see this part of the question "And the fact that I am his slave makes me think that if he is pathetic, then what exactly does that make me?? " I dont see any missing irony here.

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RE: When Master seems pathetic... - 11/7/2006 4:26:36 AM

Aileen68

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I'm sorry for not realizing that you obviously enjoy irony.
Most people don't usually start threads that point out their own pathetic nature, let alone that of their Master.

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RE: When Master seems pathetic... - 11/7/2006 4:45:01 AM

darkclouds

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For everyone who has responded, thank you. Some were more helpful then others. To the ones who were worried that I have in someway insulted Master by coming here and asking questions.... do you know who Master is? If he were to post on this board, would you be able to pick him out?

Yes, this is a profile created so that I may ask questions that may seem disrespectful or wrong to some. Where I live (and no it isnt Delaware) I do not have many resources or others with whom I can speak about my relationship and situations in it.

Master encourages me to ask questions and allows me to ask whatever it is that I need to, but this topic seems hard to bring up to him and I wanted to have some input first. I thank you again for anwering, whether helpful or not.

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RE: When Master seems pathetic... - 11/7/2006 4:47:23 AM

darkclouds

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Aileen68

I'm sorry for not realizing that you obviously enjoy irony.
Most people don't usually start threads that point out their own pathetic nature, let alone that of their Master.

Well, it is what it is. The fact that at times I find him pathetic and stay would only make me question exactly where that puts me. What exactly is the word for more then pathetic?

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RE: When Master seems pathetic... - 11/7/2006 4:48:57 AM

yaqeta

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quote:

he is an idiot and kinda pathetic

They are strong words for someone you respect and admire. It must be unpleasant to watch him judge so poorly with women.... but what is it about that, that makes you so angry?

My instinct would be that figuring that out would clear your head enough to really help him.

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