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FirmhandKY -> RE: This Was a Great Election for Conservatives... (11/10/2006 11:38:06 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: juliaoceania cognitive dissonance... and yes I am familiar with the term, and here is another, confirmation bias, it might be more illustrative of the problems here... It is strange that so many saw the same thing that happypervert did, I guess they all have that same problem... interesting, reminds me of how crazy people think everyone in the world is sane but them. Perhaps the problem isn't with how the majority of people read your posts, but the problem is with the posts themselves... oh no, that could not possibly be the trouble now, could it? julia, What drives you to continually seek to attack and belittle others? FirmKY

juliaoceania -> RE: This Was a Great Election for Conservatives... (11/10/2006 11:39:18 AM)
I just hold the mirror up Edited to add, quote: What drives you to continually seek to attack and belittle others? that is exactly what I think you do, but you know it is just an opinion like yours is of me.

Wildfleurs -> RE: This Was a Great Election for Conservatives... (11/10/2006 11:49:33 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie It may be one reason, but not the sole reason. What drives me away from such discussions is the bulldog approach taken by some, who can not simply discuss and disagree, but must turn it into some sort of insult-hurling battle ground. That's the fastest way to lose credibility with me, and to lose my interest, also. There have been some really good discussions in the past, where lots of people disagreed yet discussed issues rationally. The bulldog tag teams get old, however. And what happens is more and more people eventually just drop out because it no longer feels productive, and the bulldogs are left in their own pit. I heard a sermon one time, of all things, where the pastor was warning people about judging others so much. He said pretty soon, your circle becomes so small that you're the only one in it. He made a great point. I agree completely with this. Its definitely for me also why I avoid participating in most political discussions on here and also in general. C~

losttreasure -> RE: This Was a Great Election for Conservatives... (11/10/2006 11:53:45 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: juliaoceania cognitive dissonance... and yes I am familiar with the term, and here is another, confirmation bias, it might be more illustrative of the problems here... It is strange that so many saw the same thing that happypervert did, I guess they all have that same problem... interesting, reminds me of how crazy people think everyone in the world is sane but them. Perhaps the problem isn't with how the majority of people read your posts, but the problem is with the posts themselves... oh no, that could not possibly be the trouble now, could it? Did they? The majority of people who've read this thread? Or perhaps just a few of the handful who have bothered to comment? I am truly amazed at your powers, Julia... the ability to read everyone's minds, know how they perceive things and their intent when they write. This ability you have to line "the majority" up behind you... to interpret what is said in a way that confirms your own preconceptions. Oh wait... that would be confirmation bias. Perhaps this explains how you so easily recognize it. And by the way, perhaps you should take a few more moments to think about what you are saying before you say it. Reminds me of how crazy people think everyone in the world is sane but them? Really? Think about it. And yes, this time I am being snarky. I'm more than happy to point this one instance out to you so you'll recognize it in the future. Ta! [;)]

juliaoceania -> RE: This Was a Great Election for Conservatives... (11/10/2006 11:55:31 AM)
Thank you for your observations losttreasure, they are always a joy to read.

FirmhandKY -> RE: This Was a Great Election for Conservatives... (11/10/2006 11:58:56 AM)
Cat fight! [:D]

juliaoceania -> RE: This Was a Great Election for Conservatives... (11/10/2006 12:00:42 PM)
Not at all, everyone is welcomed to their opinions and observations.,.. even ones that offend people and they take them personally... read your posts on this topic, they are very well reasoned and sensible[:)].

Level -> RE: This Was a Great Election for Conservatives... (11/10/2006 12:07:14 PM)
Q- What's the difference between a deak skunk and a liberal? A- There's a skid mark before the skunk. A first grade teacher in the midwest was explaining to her class that she was a republican and how nice it was that a new republican President has taken office. She ask her students to raise their hands if they too are republicans and support Bush. All raised their hands except little Mary. The teacher ask why she didn't raise her hand? Because I'm a Democrat and proud of it! My moms a Democrat and my dads a Democrat and so am I! Well, just because your mom and dad are Democrats doesn't mean you have to be one. What if your mom was a criminal and your dad was a criminal too, what would that make you? "Then," Mary smiled,"then we would be republicans." http://home.comcast.net/~steveheadley1/KerryHillary.jpg http://www.democraticunderground.com/images/homepage/20041214_bush_zipper.jpg http://www.rightwingnews.com/graphics/aclu.jpg http://liberalserving.typepad.com/liberalserving/images/worldusa.gif http://www.workingforchange.com/webgraphics/WFC/TMW08-16-06.jpg

losttreasure -> RE: This Was a Great Election for Conservatives... (11/10/2006 12:11:28 PM)
laughing Thank you, Level. [:D]

Archer -> RE: This Was a Great Election for Conservatives... (11/10/2006 12:11:42 PM)
Well it really depends on how the Democrates and Republicans react to the election. The Democrates have a pretty good possition to work from overall, They can ropose movement on their issues with actual bi partisansip or they can feign bi partisanship and move their adgenda to a veto and thus win the issue with the electorates if they design the proposals well. Either tactic will have good results for them by 2007 when the Presidential campaign comes online in force. I expect they will do the latter more than the former. The Republicans will have the preceent of 60% super majority to play with this time, though sparingly or held back for major items only if they are smart. They will have the Veto for anything the Congress can't hold back without killing their campaigns for 08. If they re evaluate their platform a bit and return to the smaller Government ideas of 94 and can internally marginalize the religious right ( where else they gonna go?), then they will have that advantage when the elections of 08 come in. If they can get off the pork addictions then the fact that they have heard that message will make them rather attractive by comparrison. If Bush is smart he'll put forth a severly reduced buf=dget that Congress will reject and then bate for an extended period as they figure out what they will cut and how they will aviod the dreaded "Un funded mandates". This up comming presidential capaign will be the most interesting in recent history I believe. How moderate a candidate can you put forward and still get them by your base will be the real race. Of all the Democrates that won it's amazing (and smart, that they have one thing in common Moderate views on most things and one or two Left views that attracted the Dem voters.) Return to triangulation and stealing issues from their opponents.

FirmhandKY -> RE: This Was a Great Election for Conservatives... (11/10/2006 12:14:29 PM)
[sm=biggrin.gif][sm=biggrin.gif][sm=biggrin.gif][sm=biggrin.gif][sm=biggrin.gif][sm=applause.gif][sm=applause.gif] Much needed levity. Thank you Level. FirmKY

Level -> RE: This Was a Great Election for Conservatives... (11/10/2006 12:16:53 PM)
You're both quite welcome [;)]

FirmhandKY -> RE: This Was a Great Election for Conservatives... (11/10/2006 12:25:38 PM)
The next two years, and the upcoming 08 election will be very interesting. I don't see a Republican candidate anywhere that I'd vote for.* I don't see a Democratic candidate anywhere that I'd vote for. * I don't think the Republican "inner core" understands what happened. I don't think the Democratic leadership understands what happened. Interesting times ahead, indeed. * I do like Phil Bredesen and Fred Thompson, both of Tennessee however. FirmKY

FirmhandKY -> RE: This Was a Great Election for Conservatives... (11/10/2006 12:40:45 PM)
Bridge to Somewhere The House GOP needs a new generation of leaders. Extracts: If we had to pick the precise moment when House Republicans lost their way, it would be three years ago during the floor vote over the Medicare prescription drug bill. So unpopular was the bill among conservatives, and rightly so, that House leaders kept the vote open for an unheard of three hours as they dragooned reluctant Members to vote aye. The other great symbol of GOP failure is the proliferation of earmarked spending. In 1994 there were 1,500 such projects stuffed into Democratic spending bills, and Republicans called this a fiscal disgrace. This year Republicans approved closer to 15,000 earmarks at a cost of more than $10 billion. The current leadership defended this earmarking even after such embarrassments as the Alaska Bridge to Nowhere were exposed. When they finally agreed to minimal transparency, it was too late. Here's one telling exit poll result: In battleground districts, only one in five voters said Republicans would do a better job to "keep government spending under control"; almost twice as many voters said Democrats would do a better job. Yet this week a separate poll found that 59% of Americans still favor fewer government services and lower taxes compared with 28% who favor more government services and higher taxes. "Big government conservatism" was a nice think-tank proposition; it merely lacks support from actual voters. * Republicans might also recall what happened to Democrats when they tried to regain the House in 1996 by running with the same leadership and agenda that had been ousted in 1994. Those Democrats failed, despite Bill Clinton's victory at the top of the ticket, because too many voters saw the same old story. If Republicans lose again in 2008, they could be in the minority for a long time. * I'll be watching the House Republican leadership races closely, 'cause I gotta agree with this analysis. FirmKY

swtnsparkling -> RE: This Was a Great Election for Conservatives... (11/10/2006 2:57:42 PM)
Fast reply quote: It is strange that so many saw the same thing that happypervert did I've read this entire thread- count me Out of that so called "so many"

dcnovice -> RE: This Was a Great Election for Conservatives... (11/10/2006 6:10:56 PM)
Equal-opportunity humor. Fabulous!

ownedgirlie -> RE: This Was a Great Election for Conservatives... (11/10/2006 6:13:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: swtnsparkling Fast reply quote: It is strange that so many saw the same thing that happypervert did I've read this entire thread- count me Out of that so called "so many" Hops on board this train...

Level -> RE: This Was a Great Election for Conservatives... (11/10/2006 6:14:13 PM)
Hello, dc. I thought it appropriate to toss some good-natured mud both directions. [X(]

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