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losttreasure -> RE: This Was a Great Election for Conservatives... (11/9/2006 3:27:44 PM)
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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania
I think that on the larger issues most Americans swing left of center. Most Americans are pro-choice, worried about global warming, are against unnecessary wars, and massive government spending that is being put on a charge card that will be billed to their children. Most Americans support stem cell research, alternatives to fossil fuels, care about emergency preparedness and want to build are infrastructure.
Julia, my initial issue with your above comments is primarily with your use of the word “most”. While the polling data provided by BitaTruble shows a definite majority, it is far from what I would consider “most”. I have no doubt that a good many people, and clearly over half, are concerned with the issues you’ve mentioned, but I suspect that the emphasis on those issues might not be prevalent as your statement implies. I suspect that a good percentage of people are simply more concerned with the workings of their own day-to-day lives and, while admitting to an intellectual concern regarding the above issues when directly asked in a poll, they do not seek to actively take a part in addressing them.... at least through political means. I believe the statistics reported on voter turnout bears some witness to that.
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0781453.html
Aside from your choice of words to present your ideas, I have no disagreement with the gist of your original response. I agree that, in spite of any attempt to label people as left, right or center, a clear message was sent in this election that our elected officials need to adhere to policies that represent the concerns of the American people. In fact, I believe I commented to that with my statement, “What we can hope for is that those now charged with looking after the interest of their constituents, listen.”
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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania
In my circles he is called a "Chimpfaced Bastid", but you know people kinda get nasty when someone sends our boys and girls off to war over lies and they come back damaged and dead.
Offhand comments such as these can be very off-putting. I understand that you are calling your “circle” of acquaintances nasty, and you have every right to do so, but there are some people who can refrain from denigrating names when they disagree with the actions of our President... even when they have a personal stake in it. My oldest son is one of those boys sent off to war. I don’t like it, but not everyone gets nasty about it. And some of us don’t appreciate such a flippant remark.
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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania
I repeat... I find your posts juvenile... and if you consider that name calling, you are the one that started it... if it is name calling for me to repeat your words back to you, well there you are...
You are perfectly welcome to consider my posts juvenile, but that is not what I consider name-calling. Some examples of what I do consider name-calling are as follows:
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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania
...religious right whackjob base...
...snake handlers...
...some stuffy conservative with no sense of humor...
...a stuffed shirt...
...snarky...
I would be very interested to see where you believe that I was calling anyone names, or where you’ve used my own words against me. What I have done is expressed my opinion that resorting to inflammatory names is less than mature behavior and detracts from an intelligent conversation. I see no reason to apologize for pointing it out to others.
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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania
And yes, people who call my Dominant immature while they pretend to be somehow morally superior to us lesser mortals will get back a little of what they dish out. If she can't stand the heat she shouldn't have come into the kitchen, perhaps she learned something about insulting people while pretending that she is better than the rest of us. I doubt she will though, because you are HER example, and do the same thing.
I pointed out to your dominant that his use of “Monkeyboy” appears immature. If you choose to interpret that as an attack on your dominant’s whole character, I cannot stop you... but that was not my intent nor was that what I said.
I did offer to be open to understanding why he felt that using “Monkeyboy” was a mature action and what it accomplished, but he has not deigned to respond. While it might not be his intention, I decided to take that as inference that he cannot. The offer still stands.
I would also point out that I have at no time represented myself, either factually or falsely, as being morally superior or better than you... I merely indicated what I feel is immature behavior and state that I won’t engage in it. What seems to be your attempt to spin my presentation into something it is not, is making you appear insecure and shrill. Of course, that is only my interpretation. If you feel that you or your dominant has been insulted, that is your interpretation... I can assure you that wasn’t my intent.
What I will say is, if it is your impression that I’ve somehow come away from this chastised, you are sadly mistaken.
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