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CreativeDominant -> RE: D/does A/anyone E/else T/think T/this? (11/11/2006 11:44:37 AM)
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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania
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I don't happen to think that all grossly overweight people got there due strictly to genetics
So you take any random child, feed it the same thing that your parents fed you, and by virtue of all the crap they put into this new frankenfood the child gets slightly fat. Add in asthmatic because the air makes them sick, and they do not want to go outside and exercise because of it....
So both parents work, buy convenience foods, are not around to monitor the child and the kid gets fatter and fatter. By the time the kid is an adult they are obese. They have never known a thin day in their life, they have never known what it is to move with ease, they have never known what it is to run without coughing becayse they can't breathe, and the school pushes soda and potatoe chips with pizza at them... welcome to America and the future of obesity... it is a problem that starts in childhood excerbated by junk in school and the air being too toxic for their little lungs to run and play in...
To compare this to writing in slashy speak is just freakin idiocy and it shows a total lack of critical thinking on the subject at hand.
In all actuality julia, I have already conceded that my point that I was inaccurate in my comparison of slash speak to obesity in terms of whether or not they are an active annoyance versus a passive annoyance. As a matter of fact, I conceded it in the very same post that you are now using part of to call me an idiot for comparing obesity to slash speak.
Despite your words, I am not an idot. I don't even consider my ORIGINAL post as idiocy, despite my concession of inaccuracy. As noted above and in the post, my words referred to active annoyance versus passive annoyance and referred to other posts and following along their line. It also conceded, to a certain extent, the inaccuracy of my comparison.
The rest of it dealt with a differing point of view of obesity and despite your example julia, some people...not all, nor did I say all...get to the point of obesity because they have no self-control and instead, live for immediate self-gratification. Do I recognize that some people's weight is a harder choice for them due to some genetic disorder and do I recognize that there are those who have no choice because of a disease process? I sure do.
I have family members whose obesity was easier to achieve due to a genetic predisposition to obesity. There was my aunt (mother's sister), who died of obesity and complications of obesity such as adult-onset diabetes, high blood pressure, etc. She was 5' tall and weighed close to 325. You could say she had no choice in the matter...but then one would have to consider my mother, who also stood 5' tall, had the same genes...including the one for high blood pressure...and weighed 115 lbs. Luck of the genetic draw? Or could it be because my mom chose not to have dessert with every meal, chose to take walks every day, chose to learn alongside my dad while he was studying about healthy nutrition, chose not to snack all day?
I also had an uncle with thyroid problems...he'd been hit with it in his teens and he was always overweight, despite following a decent diet and an exercise regime geared towards his condition, and taking all his medication. He had very little choice in the matter.
So I understand that for some, there is no choice. Even in your example julia, the kid has a disease process. The disease he has restricts him from doing certain things, such as exercising outside. His parents are aware of this and yet, despite this awareness of their child's ill health, they buy him convenience foods to eat and they do not monitor his eating habits even though I am quite sure they see him gaining weight. Does this kid have a choice? No...not in terms of his health nor in terms of his parents poor choices. But...he is not every kid that is becoming obese. He is not every adult who was slender or husky as a child and who, upon reaching adulthood, began ingesting everything that puts on pounds and quits doing everything that takes it off.
Not everyone is a victim and not every thing that people choose to indulge in is a disease. If you choose to believe differently, that's your choice. It does not make you an idiot. My belief of something different regarding obesity doesn't make me an idiot.
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