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RE: Tyra is CROSS DRESSING tomorrow!!! - 11/20/2006 12:22:25 PM   
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Lotus, who is "Tyra?"

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RE: Tyra is CROSS DRESSING tomorrow!!! - 11/20/2006 1:13:28 PM   
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...just a general point regarding male cross-dressing......two words, Eddy Izzard.


I just love that guy.  He CD's.. but remains himself.  The attitude of "yeah..so what?..I like the outfit.  That's not the issue here.. I'm here doing my job". 
 
I don't see the "dressing".. I see the person. In fact, I've see him in drab and really, if there is an example as to how cosmetics can  enhance a man's face.... it's him :)  He's not asking to be addressed as Miss Izzy.  He's simply enjoying the clothes and being who he is.  Its his confidence.

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RE: Tyra is CROSS DRESSING tomorrow!!! - 11/20/2006 1:32:42 PM   
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Sisify, you mean like; "Crossdressing man beaten senseless?"
I haven't seen that headline anywhere!
Where do you "see it all the time" in the news?
Most beatings in the news involve drugs somehow not fricking crossdressing. I mean who cares?
You're sounding like a "Victim" or something.


Plenty of differently gendered people are harrassed, beaten, and even killed for just being who they are.

This site kind of emphasizes the point ( http://gender.org/remember/ )

Interestingly today, November 20th, is the Trans Day of Rememberance, where we remember all the trans people who have been killed for being who they are.

The kind of harrassment and violence that men and sometimes women can bring down on trans people is quite vicious. Especially with guys if for some reason they get turned on by the woman they think they see, but then realize it's a man. A friend of mine had that happen to her, thankfully she was only verbally assaulted, it could have turned out much worse.


DigitBox, I've lived in this area for 2 years this past Sept and get the newspaper delivered every single morning and I've not once seen a crime like that here in the "Police Reports" section.
Nor on the news at night.
I'm not saying that it doesn't happen *to crossdressers* but only that it's not of epidemic proportions like sissify would have us believe.
Now, outwardly gay males or females is quite another story although there's been no reports of attacks on them here either.
They even opened up a "Day Center" for gays here last year where they can network and meet people.
People in this area tend to be polite and have that "Southern Hospitality" and there's a LOT of people who are moving here from up North and other places.
Also, this is a "Gun State" you can get lisensed to carry a firearm concealed here and a lot of people carry them including me.
And you need to use common sense as well.
I'm not going to walk around a drug infested area with hundred dollar bills hanging out of my pockets wearing a diamond ring either.



popeye:
If you do not go to the drug infested areas with hundred dollar bills hanging out of your pockets how do you expect to score?  Or were you planning on using your concealed weapon.

thompson

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RE: Tyra is CROSS DRESSING tomorrow!!! - 11/20/2006 1:38:17 PM   
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Lotus, who is "Tyra?"



popeye:
I know you live in South Carolina but you do not live under a rock....but just incase you are serious "Tyra" is the descendant of  illegal aliens who is drop dead georgeous and has more money than god.  Oh yeah she also has an IQ that is deep into three digits.

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RE: Tyra is CROSS DRESSING tomorrow!!! - 11/20/2006 1:52:46 PM   
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Lotus, who is "Tyra?"



popeye:
I know you live in South Carolina but you do not live under a rock....but just incase you are serious "Tyra" is the descendant of  illegal aliens who is drop dead georgeous and has more money than god.  Oh yeah she also has an IQ that is deep into three digits.

thompson

Thompson, sorry that still doesn't tell me anything.
Talk show host in Arizona?

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RE: Tyra is CROSS DRESSING tomorrow!!! - 11/20/2006 2:00:48 PM   
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Here you go Popeye.  Recently retired Victoria's Secret Model and now Talk Show host.
http://realitytv.about.com/od/americasnexttopmodel/ss/TyraBio.htm

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RE: Tyra is CROSS DRESSING tomorrow!!! - 11/20/2006 2:02:20 PM   
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Interesting thread. It is unfortunate that I will not be able to see the programme.

I did this very thing one time on a dare. However I carried it a step further and went for the, male poor white trash homeless  look. It was amazing. I had people that actually knew me that walk right past me and had no clue who I was.

I also went to a costume party dressed as a teenage boy (at the time the whole baggy pants thing was hot), no makeup or hairdo, baseball cap on backwards and slouchy demeanor. I really freaked out some people and it was so much fun! They were used to the powersuit, acct exec, me. It was great to have them so uncomfortable trying to talk to me like that, they just could not wrap their head around it.

I shoulda been an actor.


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RE: Tyra is CROSS DRESSING tomorrow!!! - 11/20/2006 2:07:59 PM   
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Lotus, oh, that "Tyra."
I thought maybe it was a local.
See what I mean, she'd look good in anything!
She could have a shirt on that says "State of Maine" on the back of it and still look good! Or a construction helmet.
A guy in high heels and a dress just looks rediculous.

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RE: Tyra is CROSS DRESSING tomorrow!!! - 11/20/2006 2:20:52 PM   
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A guy in high heels and a dress just looks rediculous.


Nevertheless. I'd pay to see you in them LOL!

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RE: Tyra is CROSS DRESSING tomorrow!!! - 11/20/2006 3:30:01 PM   
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I'd like to thank everyone for contributing their thoughtful and relevant thoughts here.  We kept on track and no flaming and I think maybe we had a bit to think about.

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RE: Tyra is CROSS DRESSING tomorrow!!! - 11/20/2006 3:36:00 PM   
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I don't like the Tyra show..daytime tv sucks

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RE: Tyra is CROSS DRESSING tomorrow!!! - 11/20/2006 5:59:30 PM   
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But Dave - youre missing the point I think. Its not about how the person who is changed reacts, it is about how other people react to them. There is an argument that clothes maketh the man, but that is limited to how the man feeleth from the reactions of others unto him. What such exercises in the UK showed, was the disgraceful way that obese, disabled and old people etc experience without a murmur - but brought to full light by someone not usually subject to that treatment who thus found it noteworthy. I'm not sure how the Tyra show will do it, but the UK programmes used hidden cameras and mics to avoid the TV crew effect.

I'm sorry to hear about your job. Come work for me. We'll have fun.

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Actually, what i was going for is that, while clothes and appearance are an important factor in the way people react to you, they also react to the way you carry yourself, the attitude you project, and what you do. Furthermore, the reactions that she gets as a man are going to be highly dependant on where she goes and what she does. Unless she is an unusually good actor, she will still have the confidence of someone who has it all, and people will react to that- subtly, but i wager it will be an influence. Would you expect people to react to a novice CD the same way they would react to a TS who had lived as that gender for several years, even if they are equally passable in appearance?

Also, my other point was that even without consciously manipulating this for the purpose of putting on a good show, a handful of calculated vignettes do not "a day in the life" make, much less "what life is like for X". If she's going out to show how she's treated differently as a man than as a woman, i expect an agenda. Once you've got an agenda and an editor, 9 times out of 10 you're gonna "prove" whatever point you set out to make.

And thanks for the offer It's hard to feel good about work on a Monday! i think the UK culture shock would do me in, though.

...dave

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RE: Tyra is CROSS DRESSING tomorrow!!! - 11/20/2006 6:39:22 PM   
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(I really don't freaking care)

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RE: Tyra is CROSS DRESSING tomorrow!!! - 11/20/2006 10:44:22 PM   
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Mikal:
We like to call it salmon not pink thankyou...

thompson


Are you telling me you wear salmons for shirts? I'd think that'd get rather smelly in a hurry, no matter what b.o. juice you were wearing....

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