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Vernon4 -> RE: Kramer goes ballistic (11/30/2006 3:00:33 AM)
Ghandi has always been my hero. I abhor racism, but I would not want to start hating the racists.

LotusSong -> RE: Kramer goes ballistic (11/30/2006 6:43:53 AM)
Hate only hurts the hater. It eats away at the soul.

LadyJulieAnn -> RE: Kramer goes ballistic (12/1/2006 4:22:13 PM)
It will be interesting to learn the monetary value of racist comments when Richards meets with the men to apologize and reach a settlement. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15887520/

meatcleaver -> RE: Kramer goes ballistic (12/1/2006 4:28:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyJulieAnn It will be interesting to learn the monetary value of racist comments when Richards meets with the men to apologize and reach a settlement. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15887520/ When people put a montetary value on such episodes I think it devalues the people who say they are hurt because it shows they are just on the make. He owes them an unequivacle public apology, no more. But then perhaps they would prefer, a meally mouthed, behind the hand, out of the corner of the mouth apology and lots and lots of cash. Hurt? My arse!

Sinergy -> RE: Kramer goes ballistic (12/1/2006 8:39:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LotusSong The way things are going, the whites will be the minority in short order... what will life be like then? Umm, From a statistical standpoint, caucasians have never been the majority population on the planet. From a observational perspective, I imagine if white is not the majority then some other color would be. But that is just me and I could be wrong. Sinergy

Lordandmaster -> RE: Kramer goes ballistic (12/1/2006 9:04:40 PM)
No, no ethnic group of any kind is large enough to constitute a majority. quote: ORIGINAL: Sinergy From a observational perspective, I imagine if white is not the majority then some other color would be.

TxBlkMistress -> RE: Kramer goes ballistic (12/1/2006 9:37:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Vernon4 Poor Jesse Jackson, this illigitimate Black son of the old South. Everything he does is filtered through the prevailing sentiment in our beloved land of the free and home of the slaves. Jesse is by definition a fraud as was Marcus Garvey, David Walker and Martin had to die to attain sainthood. Jesse aint perfect and I truly abhor his upper shady upper(E. Franklin Frazier.) noblesse oblige toward his brethren. Nothing that Jesse has done can come near the evil foisted on the world by our Democracy which rates people to this day on ethnicity, and melanin. Long live Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton and everyother Black man who has managed to game this corrupt system. Goetz von berlighengen. I have been an expatriate for long years just because every Black man is cursed with the miasma of fear that permeate even a simple trip to the supermarket. "He jests at the scars who never felt the wounds." Not sure why you are "preaching" to me about Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton....never mentioned them....don't like them, never have. If I want to look up to someone, I have plenty of people within my own family.

DivineDarkDiva -> RE: Kramer goes ballistic (12/1/2006 9:48:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Vernon4 Dear DivineDarkDiva: Your surprise at the fact that racism is the as American as apple pie underwhelms me. This is a country built on the corner stones of genicide, slavery, exploitation for the good of the oligarchy which has as its byword GREED, GREED, GREED. OUR HISTORY IS FOX NEWS ABORNING. I said the hatred made me sad.

DivineDarkDiva -> RE: Kramer goes ballistic (12/1/2006 9:53:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TxBlkMistress quote: ORIGINAL: Vernon4 Poor Jesse Jackson, this illigitimate Black son of the old South. Everything he does is filtered through the prevailing sentiment in our beloved land of the free and home of the slaves. Jesse is by definition a fraud as was Marcus Garvey, David Walker and Martin had to die to attain sainthood. Jesse aint perfect and I truly abhor his upper shady upper(E. Franklin Frazier.) noblesse oblige toward his brethren. Nothing that Jesse has done can come near the evil foisted on the world by our Democracy which rates people to this day on ethnicity, and melanin. Long live Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton and everyother Black man who has managed to game this corrupt system. Goetz von berlighengen. I have been an expatriate for long years just because every Black man is cursed with the miasma of fear that permeate even a simple trip to the supermarket. "He jests at the scars who never felt the wounds." Not sure why you are "preaching" to me about Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton....never mentioned them....don't like them, never have. If I want to look up to someone, I have plenty of people within my own family. I think Vernon4 was addressing my comment about Jesse Jackson being an opportunist, but somehow used your post to do it. I also think Vernon4 may not have mastered how to respond or quote the specific post. He'll get it soon.

Level -> RE: Kramer goes ballistic (12/2/2006 3:15:45 AM)
"Black entertainers struggle with the n-word" Paul Mooney is a popular black comedian with a foul mouth who's used a nasty racial epithet as part of his shtick for decades. But when his friend Michael Richards, who's white, spewed that same epithet during a gig at a Los Angeles comedy club, Mooney said it "freaked me out" and "filled me with disgust." http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15997741

SirDiscipliner69 -> RE: Kramer goes ballistic (12/2/2006 3:30:30 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Vernon4 Ghandi has always been my hero. He was Mine in high school also. I tried to emulate him and got alot of flack in doing so. Shame I did not read the back of the book first that mentioned when confronted with violence defend rather than turn the other cheek ,till much later and many episodes in My life later. Ross Bon D' Age' : BDSM http://tinyurl.com/ygblqt Designermite : http://tinyurl.com/ueov5 Soul of Motorcycle Art http://tinyurl.com/ybg73a

SirDiscipliner69 -> RE: Kramer goes ballistic (12/2/2006 3:37:53 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LevelRichards responded to two black hecklers with the "n" word and profanities, Seems many in society have been desensitized as to what they say and do affects others and the effects it has on society. I personally blame this origin of desensitization of the Viet Nam war coverage into the home. Seems for some it is now easier to accept starving nations, genocide, murder, rape and all the attrocities of mankind against mandkind ecause of the constant exposure to it on the media. One would think this exposure would force people to do something about it. Speculate on where we would be if the pre World War II in Europe coverage was the same as the Viet Nam conflict. Ross Bon D' Age' : BDSM http://tinyurl.com/ygblqt Designermite : http://tinyurl.com/ueov5 Soul of Motorcycle Art http://tinyurl.com/ybg73a

NeedToUseYou -> RE: Kramer goes ballistic (12/2/2006 8:25:29 AM)
just using fast reply: here's one solution to the problem: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-_K0Hlvyys

meatcleaver -> RE: Kramer goes ballistic (12/2/2006 9:03:43 AM)
Well at least we know where we stand.

Lordandmaster -> RE: Kramer goes ballistic (12/2/2006 9:23:57 AM)
Yeah, no one ever said there weren't black racists too. quote: ORIGINAL: NeedToUseYou here's one solution to the problem: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-_K0Hlvyys

NeedToUseYou -> RE: Kramer goes ballistic (12/2/2006 9:46:34 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster Yeah, no one ever said there weren't black racists too. That wasn't even implied. The point being the difference is a black professor employed by tax payer dollars(almost all professors are to some degree) went on C-SPAN and said kill all white people. And not a flutter of response. That speaks volumes about the difference in sensitivities between the two races.

Lordandmaster -> RE: Kramer goes ballistic (12/2/2006 9:55:23 AM)
First, I wouldn't say there was "not a flutter of response." Just Google "Kamau Kambon." Or just read his Wikipedia entry. Second, he's no longer affiliated with North Carolina State University, so he clearly faced some sanction for his comments. Third, professors at PUBLIC universities are supported by taxpayer dollars, but not professors at private universities. You ought to know that. You might as well say that almost all CEO's are supported by taxpayer dollars "to some degree." quote: ORIGINAL: NeedToUseYou quote: ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster Yeah, no one ever said there weren't black racists too. That wasn't even implied. The point being the difference is a black professor employed by tax payer dollars(almost all professors are to some degree) went on C-SPAN and said kill all white people. And not a flutter of response. That speaks volumes about the difference in sensitivities between the two races.

NeedToUseYou -> RE: Kramer goes ballistic (12/2/2006 10:23:12 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster First, I wouldn't say there was "not a flutter of response." Just Google "Kamau Kambon." Or just read his Wikipedia entry. Second, he's no longer affiliated with North Carolina State University, so he clearly faced some sanction for his comments. Third, professors at PUBLIC universities are supported by taxpayer dollars, but not professors at private universities. You ought to know that. You might as well say that almost all CEO's are supported by taxpayer dollars "to some degree." quote: ORIGINAL: NeedToUseYou quote: ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster Yeah, no one ever said there weren't black racists too. That wasn't even implied. The point being the difference is a black professor employed by tax payer dollars(almost all professors are to some degree) went on C-SPAN and said kill all white people. And not a flutter of response. That speaks volumes about the difference in sensitivities between the two races. I'm still not understanding your view here. So, your arguing since you can find it on the internet that the response was meaningful. I'd consider the response to the michael richards comments significant. Hell, I didn't even see this until I was wandering around on YouTube and it's a year old. In relations to your second point. I have no idea why he no longer works there. Your assuming he was reprimanded, but that's an assumption at this point. And as far as my experiences go State Universities are supported by tax payer money to a large degreee that is why they are called State Universities. So, when this was aired he was working at a state university. Unless state universities elswhere aren't the same as here. So, he was employed by state funds when those comments were said. I doubt he didn't spew this crap to his students before he said it on C-SPAN. Yes, Yes, some of the funds were private to, in the form of tuition. Whichever, that is a minor point here. My point is FOX, CNN, etc.... etc... if they did run this story must have just brushed over it really quickly because I don't remember the media covering it(could of mentioned a blurb somewhere I missed it), and the call for an extermination of a race is way worse than saying the "N" word which is what this Kramer thing is about. I just found it interesting that these kind of rants when done by black people aren't covered heavily. Yeah, it'll come up on google but it's not on the network news for a week or david letterman.

Level -> RE: Kramer goes ballistic (12/2/2006 10:31:20 AM)
One, Kambon is a fucktard. Two, the response to his comments and Richards' are different, because the two men have vastly different level's of notoriety. Say "Kambon" to a group of people and they'll say "huh?", say "Kramer from Seinfeld" and most will know who you mean.

Lordandmaster -> RE: Kramer goes ballistic (12/2/2006 10:54:49 AM)
My view is pretty simple. Kambon is a racist asshole. But you're trying to argue that because the outcry against what he said wasn't as great as the outcry against what Richards said, there's some kind of horrible anti-white imbalance in American public opinion. That's absurd. The outcry against Kambon was significant; the fact that YOU happened not to have heard about it until you saw it on YouTube is--how shall I put this--totally fucking irrelevant, no? NCSU stated that Kambon was no longer affiliated with them in response to inquiries after his speech at Howard University. I'll take that as a statement that they canned his ass. quote: ORIGINAL: NeedToUseYou I'm still not understanding your view here.

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