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Chloelicious -> RE: The Other BDSM Personals Sites (11/27/2006 4:48:25 AM)

Alex,

I am on alt.com since 5 years and i ve never had any of those messages, it s true that you have less possibilities if you are not a "gold" or "silver" member but you can do such things as chatting, seeing webcam (in rooms); looking profile (someting like 15 a day).

Anyway i think that there is a good part of players everywhere.Do you really think that there is so many people who are interested in SM? I m not quiet sure those person are all "real".

chloé



crouchingtigress -> RE: The Other BDSM Personals Sites (11/27/2006 6:07:44 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: gooddogbenji

That's like saying if I ever read one of Ron's posts and understand it on the first read, I'll turn gay.


giggles maddly....same here....even his serious post, where he explained everything in meticulous languaging i needed a thrice over...



Petronius -> RE: The Other BDSM Personals Sites (11/27/2006 1:36:00 PM)


1) Read this statement by mistresssavanna starting this discussion: "After extensive discussion with the ALT organization, and signing an electronic agreement that I would not longer promote the off ALT website, they still deleted My existence there." (emphasis added)

2) Then check this url: http://alt.com/blog/Savanna2Play/64/

On the basis of your own personal examination, do you conclude that mistresssavanna:

3) Lies through her fucking teeth;

4) Is so dumb she can't find her own blog;

5) Both of the above.



mnottertail -> RE: The Other BDSM Personals Sites (11/27/2006 1:39:08 PM)

Well, she is awful quiet today, perhaps she is in consultation with the top echelon of the Vangard of Kinksters. Even Bush thinks he plots strategy.

Ron



gooddogbenji -> RE: The Other BDSM Personals Sites (11/27/2006 1:43:58 PM)

Don't you hate it when you try to BS, and absolutely everyone calls you on it?

Yours,


benji



MisPandora -> RE: The Other BDSM Personals Sites (11/27/2006 1:55:01 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Well, she is awful quiet today, perhaps she is in consultation with the top echelon of the Vangard of Kinksters. Even Bush thinks he plots strategy.

Ron

I think after the nasty slew of their posts got deleted last night, the Guardians are circling the wagons and deciding what their next plan of action is.



gooddogbenji -> RE: The Other BDSM Personals Sites (11/27/2006 1:58:27 PM)

LOL....

I went through the thread looking for the deleted posts, and found none missing.

Turns out it was theirs. 

No wonder I didn't find much missing.

Kinda like a burglar breaking in and stealing dust bunnies.

Yours,


benji



mnottertail -> RE: The Other BDSM Personals Sites (11/27/2006 1:59:21 PM)

Well,
We are safe from the Guardians of our collective soul for another day then.

Curtis Sliwa




raiken -> RE: The Other BDSM Personals Sites (11/27/2006 2:01:33 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: gooddogbenji

Don't you hate it when you try to BS, and absolutely everyone calls you on it?

Yours,


benji


LOL sure do! But it is only on the ~rarest~ of occasions that it occurs...~grin



Petronius -> RE: The Other BDSM Personals Sites (11/27/2006 2:02:29 PM)

I have a much more favorable impression of today's "Scene" after reading through this thread than I did before I started. I saw something in the community I rarely saw before. The discussion has managed to unite men and women; dominants and submissives; sadists and masochists; professionals and amateurs; Goreans and ... regular people; conservatives, liberals, and progressives.

This unhead of unity is based on one crucial point: the simple ability to smell bullshit.



sophia37 -> RE: The Other BDSM Personals Sites (11/27/2006 2:03:42 PM)

Give it a break fellas! All this talk! Its like youre all saying, I mean I mean I mean, too bad youre just being mean! lololol Come over here guys and let me ccik your asses for the ladys sake. You'd like that now wouldnt you? I'll dress all nice and everything. You'll love every minute of it I promise. 



raiken -> RE: The Other BDSM Personals Sites (11/27/2006 2:06:02 PM)

Yup~ The smell just entices those of us who love to mess with a good line of BS every so often, just for the entertainment value of course. ~wink



SDFemDom4cuck -> RE: The Other BDSM Personals Sites (11/27/2006 2:06:28 PM)

Hmmm these were the questions...

quote:

Well Savanna, your marketing techniques may be a little raw but you sure have got the attention you wanted!  Just a few questions regarding the 'Guardians' you mention... (thats if you dont mind)

1. Who appoints these people and what qualifies the person/people who made the decision?

2. What qualifies someone to become a 'Guardian'

3. What checks have been run on these people - how can you be sure that these people are not being put in a position of trust when they shouldnt be? 

4. If you agree to 'guard' or protect by 'safe call' and something goes wrong, how do you stand legally?

I will thank you in advance incase you decide to answer my questions.... its late here so time for bed - night all!

Claire


Then this was the reply....

quote:

All guardians begin as junior guardians, and are primarily in place to assist those who are in trouble.
As I mentioned above, in an earlier comment reply, unless you have helped someone, perhaps on the verge of contemplating suicide, you would not understand how desperate the need for such a group. There are other groups that exist, btw, you just do not know about it.

The protocol and the confidentiality issues of the group are decided upon by the members and the Guardians themselves.  
There are several attorneys within the group, as well as law enforcement, etc. so these are tough issues, yes, but safe call actions are individual and specific to each subject, depending on the circumstances, and follow the established protocol.

If my marketing techniques seem crude, it is only because I do not wish to attract a surge of members, This is not my goal.  We seek to attract members who will participate and add to the organization.

I thank you for asking these questions, as they are good ones. These are issues that have been the topic of many a long discussion.

Regards,

Savanna


I'm not quite seeing how Claire's questions were answered. How  nice of you to thank her for asking them but I'm not getting why they weren't actually ever answered. Surely there are some qualifications and background requirements that are followed to determine that the people being labeled "Guardian" should be since their deemed responsible for others. What are those protocals? Simple question that should have an equally simplistic answer.

This is what I found most offensive...I had to wait an hour to calm down enough not to explode.

quote:

As I mentioned above, in an earlier comment reply, unless you have helped someone, perhaps on the verge of contemplating suicide, you would not understand how desperate the need for such a group. There are other groups that exist, btw, you just do not know about it.



I've volunteered and run suicide crisis hotlines for years, grief counselor for almost 20 years dealing specifically with the survivors of suicide as well as been an on call victim's advocate for rape cases.  I'm the person that meets a survivor at the ER, holds their hand while explaining the procedures step by step, and then supports them emotionally throughout the ensuing judicial hearings and trials. So I think its safe to say that I have done this...more than a few times and I'm still not understanding it.

quote:

Perhaps, when you have assisted someone out of a suicide mode, and helped them to understand they were taken advantage of, or mind-fucked by a predator player, you too would understand that it is much more than this.


How in the world do you compare one with the other???? I am flabbergasted. How does this "organization" of yours and what it does, let alone the understanding of it, have ANY comparison to being a crisis counselor? What is your basis of comparison? Am I somehow missing something that explains this?  You don't have to dumb it down. I have a 154 IQ. I think I can get it...but then you've been a part of BDSM for so long and you know that the majority of those involved in the lifestyle are above average in intelligence to begin with right?




givemyall -> RE: The Other BDSM Personals Sites (11/27/2006 3:33:39 PM)

SDFemDom, you write so wonderfully!.... I hope you have more luck getting the answers than I did, as it would seem that the lady does not wish to reply to me - perhaps im not worthy of knowing about their very secretive society!.... but I will say that I slept soundly knowing that the almighty savannah and her team of guardians were watching over my interests with their large cyber guns lol.

She was good entertainment value I suppose!

regards
Claire



LTRsubNW -> RE: The Other BDSM Personals Sites (11/27/2006 5:10:44 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Chloelicious

Alex,

I am on alt.com since 5 years and i ve never had any of those messages, it s true that you have less possibilities if you are not a "gold" or "silver" member but you can do such things as chatting, seeing webcam (in rooms); looking profile (someting like 15 a day).

 
My dear, you're a chic.
 
Let me explain to you how these pay sites work (such as Bondage.com or Alt.com...I've only tried one, 3 weeks, it was enough of an embarrassment to and for me and I have zero interest, as a male sub, to ever try such a service again....but I digress...).
 
Here's how this shit really works (please take notes...it sucks):
 
#1, they sign you up.  You get a bill.
 
#2, you're psyched...this could be it...you could end up meeting your dream girl here.  Hey, stranger things have happened you know...that Sasquatch in that movie a few years ago, that actually was a Sasquatch (yeah...a real one)...but nobody's talking about it....(like they would...who's gonna let that kinda shit slip?).
 
#3,  You type some remarkably witty stuff (well, you do after 3 beers, 9 weeks, 41 re-writes, and 11 very sly phone calls to your ex Domme..."so tell me...what exactly did you find most appealing about me?....no really.  Really?", and within only moments, you feel like Hemingway).
 
So here's what actually happens (for you women that really don't know...and for you men that are about to plunk down your hard earned coin...):
 
I sent an ad out.  It was a while back. Alt.com. Very innocuous.  Simple, direct, exactly who I am, what I sought, how tall I was, what kind of skateboard I rode...that kind of thing.
 
I got back an email that started off with  "was just reading some of the personal ads and I have to tell you, yours struck me...it's exactly what I've been looking for for a very long time".
 
And another "WOW!!!!  I can't believe I've lasted this long...you really hit home on my issues.  Can we talk?"
 
Still more "GAWD....it's like a fucking desert here sometimes.  Where have you been?  Do you live near ____ at all?"
 
Now all these emails happened within less than 40 minutes.  There were dozens of them.  Granted, it was clear within less than 5 emails, I was barely moments away from finding my one true and only.
 
However, I eventually thought this was at least odd (I have a complete grasp of the whole "I'm a guy, so that pretty much puts me at 2 - 4 responses...she'll get 631").  Then I started to notice a pattern in the emails.  I began to suspect a bit of a con going on.
 
So I decided to change my profile/ad.
 
I then said "I'm 5/10, green eyes, successful, nice home, quiet acreage...I love animals, my favorite thing to do with them is to tie them up by their hooves, hook them to a ceiling fan, sing them a lullabye and then scream out as loud as I can "I never wanted to participate in this current administration...why the fuck are you involving me?"
 
That brought me the following responses:
 
1)  "I was just reading some of the personal ads and I have to tell you, yours struck me...it's exactly what I've been looking for for a very long time".

2)  "WOW!!!!  I can't believe I've lasted this long...you really hit home on my issues.  Can we talk?"

And...3)  "GAWD....it's like a fucking desert here sometimes.  Where have you been?  Do you live near ____ at all?"

 
(Anyone else see a pattern here?)
 
So, I decided to change my ad just once more.
 
"Hi.  I've searched a long time. I'm (then 42), don't you occasionally just feel like 'I'm fucking done with this shit!!!...This is just way the fuck too hard'...and then you give it one more shot.  Just one. 
 
You want this as much as I do, I know you do...I have to believe it, because I want it so very much. I want someone that wants all this as much as I.
 
I hate Jews.  I like to find people who clearly have no purpose in life, then fuck them over as best as I can, and...when they have nothing left, I like to kick them in the nuts.  My preference is, of course, to continue until they bleed from their ears.
 
Haven't you ever wanted to take someone who you've hated you're entire fucking life, and throw them into the jarring maw of a stainless steel wheat combine?
 
If you're that girl, please contact me....my Mother would love to meet you."
 
And here's what I got as responses:
 
1)  "I was just reading some of the personal ads and I have to tell you, yours struck me...it's exactly what I've been looking for for a very long time".

2)  "WOW!!!!  I can't believe I've lasted this long...you really hit home on my issues.  Can we talk?"
 
And...3)  "GAWD....it's like a fucking desert here sometimes.  Where have you been?  Do you live near ____ at all?"

 
So, as you might assume...my recommendation on some of these pay sites, probably wouldn't be all that favorable.
 
 



CreativeDominant -> RE: The Other BDSM Personals Sites (11/27/2006 5:25:27 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: raiken

quote:

ORIGINAL: gooddogbenji

Don't you hate it when you try to BS, and absolutely everyone calls you on it?

Yours,
benji


LOL sure do! But it is only on the ~rarest~ of occasions that it occurs...~grin


And considering that I never...~checks to make sure Santa's not listening~...B. S., I am just astounded when I discover that someone else has done so once again.  [sm=flying.gif]



RedSavageSlave -> RE: The Other BDSM Personals Sites (11/27/2006 6:01:46 PM)

OMG.. did I actually come to the end of the posts??

<faints and falls to the floor>



gooddogbenji -> RE: The Other BDSM Personals Sites (11/27/2006 6:17:04 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: RedSavageSlave

OMG.. did I actually come to the end of the posts??

<faints and falls to the floor>


Nope.  There's still this one.

Yours,


benji



jdtallfem -> RE: The Other BDSM Personals Sites (11/27/2006 6:26:42 PM)

I"ve had great luck on collarme meeting subs/slaves though haven't picked one yet.
I"ve had great luck on alt (more recently) meeting subs/slaves though haven't picked one yet.
I certainly haven't mistreated anyone.
I have to wonder, however, if you read the rules on ALT. It states very clearly that you're not allowed to post a website or email address until at least two emails have passed between you and a prospect or you will be banned from ALT, no questions asked.  So perhaps you got bumped from ALT for your emails?  Just a thought.



ShreveportMaster -> RE: The Other BDSM Personals Sites (11/27/2006 6:30:27 PM)

This one too [8D]



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