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ORIGINAL: rubyleu

A slave to me is one that gives up total control to her Master, has no more safewords because her Master knows her body and mind so well, that including her limits. She never says no, and will do anything for her Master. a slave to me is not an instant position, it comes with time, it develops. She also feels like a slave because she knows herself that whatever is asked of her to do, there is this power in her that doesnt allow her to say no, that whatever He requires, she must do it. If she fails to do it, she feels less of a slave, she has failed.

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ORIGINAL: afraid

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ORIGINAL: rubyleu

A slave to me is one that gives up total control to her Master, has no more safewords because her Master knows her body and mind so well, that including her limits. She never says no, and will do anything for her Master. a slave to me is not an instant position, it comes with time, it develops. She also feels like a slave because she knows herself that whatever is asked of her to do, there is this power in her that doesnt allow her to say no, that whatever He requires, she must do it. If she fails to do it, she feels less of a slave, she has failed.

PERFECT rubyleu....but, is it wrong that i'm totally turned on by reading your description!  lol!

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ORIGINAL: SirLordTrainer

Stands with the tim the tool man fire hose at the ready!..LOL 

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ORIGINAL: CelticPrince
...To those I ask if you might define in print, as long as you refer to yourselves as such,, just what is a slave compared to a submissive, collared or not...

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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

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ORIGINAL: CelticPrince
...To those I ask if you might define in print, as long as you refer to yourselves as such,, just what is a slave compared to a submissive, collared or not...

can't tell you about "a" slave, only this slave, so here goes:
 
being submissive to Master, and not His slave, would mean waking up in her own bed, in her own house, in which she makes all the decisions...perhaps we would contact one another throughout the day depending on what other responsibilities this slave would have--work, family or socially related activities---or what His schedule would be as well---work, family, social obligations and time with other submissives that He might or might not be in relationship with.  we might make plans around our mutual schedules to meet up at a public dungeon and scene together on the weekends or just enjoy a vanilla outing.
 
being Master's slave she wakes up next to Him, serves His wish or whim every waking hour, and He calls ALL the shots.

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Why wouldn't you live with him if you were a submissive, not a slave?

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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

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ORIGINAL: CelticPrince
...To those I ask if you might define in print, as long as you refer to yourselves as such,, just what is a slave compared to a submissive, collared or not...

can't tell you about "a" slave, only this slave, so here goes:
 
being submissive to Master, and not His slave, would mean waking up in her own bed, in her own house, in which she makes all the decisions...perhaps we would contact one another throughout the day depending on what other responsibilities this slave would have--work, family or socially related activities---or what His schedule would be as well---work, family, social obligations and time with other submissives that He might or might not be in relationship with.  we might make plans around our mutual schedules to meet up at a public dungeon and scene together on the weekends or just enjoy a vanilla outing.
 
being Master's slave she wakes up next to Him, serves His wish or whim every waking hour, and He calls ALL the shots.

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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

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Why wouldn't you live with him if you were a submissive, not a slave?

Aquatic,
Because I would not allow her.

One, of many, distinctions is the requirement of total commitment. I don't represent an lifestyle or "industry" standard for the definition and distinction; I only have a definition of how I wanted to live. The definition meant serving one Master. Defined by serving one household, one job, one boss - Me. It isn't a one sided commitment. I have the corresponding responsibilities.

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ORIGINAL: justheather

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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

juliet when we made love you used to cry
you said i love you like the stars above i'll love you till i die
there's a place for us you know the movie song
when you gonna realize it was just that the time was wrong?
- Dire Straits

(but yes, I like Shakespeare too, sometimes)

No no no! Indigo Girls!

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ORIGINAL: daddysprop247

i define "slave" pretty much the same way the standard dictionary does: one who is the owned property of another; one who is completely subject to another's will; human chattel, etc.

it's not about having a particular relationship dynamic, it's not even about being submissive. a slave need not be submissive in the least. it is merely about being owned. whatever else is entailed is entirely up to the individual Owner.

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we can only hjope sjo.

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