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RE: The Secret Lives of Dommes - 11/29/2006 6:23:15 PM   
marieToo


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Could it be that you are having desires of bottoming or subbing and feel that it somehow would dilute your Dominant pursuasion?



Nope.  What's the use of training someone then not using it?


None. 

There are many ways I would imagine that a person could be trained for his or her dominants benefit.  Off the top of my head, one example would be to train or teach another person to "top", because his/her dominant desired bottoming on occasion.

It was just a thought.  Only you really know. 

Good luck with it, whatever it is.    : )

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RE: The Secret Lives of Dommes - 11/29/2006 6:39:14 PM   
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ORIGINAL: marieToo

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ORIGINAL: LotusSong

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ORIGINAL: marieToo


Could it be that you are having desires of bottoming or subbing and feel that it somehow would dilute your Dominant pursuasion?



Nope.  What's the use of training someone then not using it?


None. 

There are many ways I would imagine that a person could be trained for his or her dominants benefit.  Off the top of my head, one example would be to train or teach another person to "top", because his/her dominant desired bottoming on occasion.

It was just a thought.  Only you really know. 

Good luck with it, whatever it is.    : )


Or train them to do massage and offer when they see you need one.
Or pedicures with reflexology foot massage.
Or breast bondage because it drives them nuts... LOL!
 
Think outside of the "switch box" :)



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RE: The Secret Lives of Dommes - 11/29/2006 7:08:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		I am with the others, laying back and enjoying is not letting them take over, it bespeaks the fact you trained them well.  Since I like my subs intelligent, I also expect them to be creative when given the chance.  I don't see how that is giving in to an urge to submit because I have gotten off on theirs.  The power is mine and will remain mine..so a pedicure with massage should be a given unless I am in a hurry and just need my nails done.  I think I see what you are asking, but it (to me) means they are carrying out their duties, and I expect no less.  I'm sure they enjoy it too, although that is not my first concern, but I do expect them after a time to be able to be creative and know in what directions I like and would approve of, and which ones I would not.

edited to add: as far as your example of breast bondage because it drives them nuts,........NO, nothing at that time is done because it gets their rocks off, it's because it gets mine off.

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RE: The Secret Lives of Dommes - 11/29/2006 7:39:43 PM   
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Isn't getting "done" a form of getting sexually serviced? Queens/drones that whole thing?







That's what I think. I don't see how having sex without needing to direct every step of it is rewarding a sub. I thought that was just having sex. Heck, I love it when Fox is horny and eager and knows what to do.

Are there people who don't like that?


Did I mention sex anywhere?


Will you please just rephrase your original post?

It is amazingly unclear as the variety of answers and your responses to them show.

Just state it clearly and explicitely -- no examples just be frank about it please.

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RE: The Secret Lives of Dommes - 11/29/2006 7:49:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		Extra-sexually this becomes even a larger part of my life. It's rare that I even have to tell H what to do anymore, he's learned my preferences quite nicely.  I'm not she-of-a-million-specifics either, though. I'm much more keen on those who follow the spirit of the law than the letter of the law. Demanding active and not reactive service is and has always been a large part of my doings, no secret about it.


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RE: The Secret Lives of Dommes - 11/29/2006 8:08:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sorry TJ.. I tried to reword it..but I just can't pose the question any better than I have.  Maybe someone else can.....E?
 
Probably the first sentence confused everybody. I think I was just thinking as I typed and actually the  specific question posed was what I wanted to ask. 
 
The first sentence is more along the line of :"  Have you ever been in awe of your slave" like a submissive is of their master?

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RE: The Secret Lives of Dommes - 11/29/2006 8:43:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LotusSong

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ORIGINAL: marieToo

quote:

ORIGINAL: LotusSong

quote:

ORIGINAL: marieToo


Could it be that you are having desires of bottoming or subbing and feel that it somehow would dilute your Dominant pursuasion?



Nope.  What's the use of training someone then not using it?


None. 

There are many ways I would imagine that a person could be trained for his or her dominants benefit.  Off the top of my head, one example would be to train or teach another person to "top", because his/her dominant desired bottoming on occasion.

It was just a thought.  Only you really know. 

Good luck with it, whatever it is.    : )


Or train them to do massage and offer when they see you need one.
Or pedicures with reflexology foot massage.
Or breast bondage because it drives them nuts... LOL!
 
Think outside of the "switch box" :)




Ok Ok...let me guess again....Im kinda diggin this....

Do you mean you want to give your slave a period of time to just do what he has been trained to do, to please you (ie pedicures, massage, whathaveyou) but give him the freedom to do it at his own discretion, in his own way, without you directing the how, the when and the where

Sorta like handing him a box of crayons and saying  "I trust you know what i like....Now you draw the picture that you know will please me, instead of me telling you exactly what to draw or how to draw it.

Are we getting closer??

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RE: The Secret Lives of Dommes - 11/29/2006 8:54:51 PM   
draba


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I think she is try to say let her slave have his way with her and please her in the manner and way she wants him to. In other words make love to her the way he has been trained to by her.
I used to have a cat named Pandora.

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RE: The Secret Lives of Dommes - 11/29/2006 9:06:42 PM   
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Are we getting closer??


Yup :)
 
Another point I wanted to have discussed is that we are not just all about beating th crap out a slave or submissive.. there are times we just sort of bask in the strengths they have. (at least I do :)

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RE: The Secret Lives of Dommes - 11/29/2006 9:35:20 PM   
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Color me clueless, but I'm still not fully getting your code here.

What show?  Life in general?  Sex?  Whaaaat?  Toss me a bone here!


While I don't NORMALLY do puppy play..here ya go:
 
"Have you ever been so impressed with your boy that you just give it up for him"?  Turn the kid loose in the candy store per say? :)

I'm starting to think I'm the only one that does this)

I give up.  I was not meant to understand your code in this post.


I understand her code quite well 



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RE: The Secret Lives of Dommes - 11/29/2006 9:41:39 PM   
kc692


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ORIGINAL: UtopianRanger

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ORIGINAL: MisPandora

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ORIGINAL: LotusSong

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ORIGINAL: MisPandora


Color me clueless, but I'm still not fully getting your code here.

What show?  Life in general?  Sex?  Whaaaat?  Toss me a bone here!


While I don't NORMALLY do puppy play..here ya go:
 
"Have you ever been so impressed with your boy that you just give it up for him"?  Turn the kid loose in the candy store per say? :)

I'm starting to think I'm the only one that does this)

I give up.  I was not meant to understand your code in this post.


I understand her code quite well 



- R



Can you explain it to us confused folk then Utopian?

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RE: The Secret Lives of Dommes - 11/29/2006 9:51:55 PM   
LotusSong


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Status: offline 		I used to read Tarot for people.  I would give a reading and then ask if they had any questions.  You would be amazed as  to the difference between what I said and what they heard.
 
I wasn't writing any sort of "code" (I mean..WHY???) nor between the lines thing.  It is just what it is.

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RE: The Secret Lives of Dommes - 11/29/2006 10:02:39 PM   
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Can you explain it to us confused folk then Utopian?


Well, to be blunt.... my take is that she'd like to feel boisterously informal masculinity run it's full course 



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RE: The Secret Lives of Dommes - 11/29/2006 10:40:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		I would imagine as the relationship grows a sub/slave would grow more creative, not only anticipating needs but coming up with new possiblities for his/her Master/Mistress.  We're all creative beings with a voice that should be heard, with whatever protocal the household allows.

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RE: The Secret Lives of Dommes - 11/29/2006 10:58:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		That was certainly clear, and although I would have phrased it just a bit gentler, that would have been the gist of it.    The boy is still sub, and still doing exactly what she wants him to do.  Further, after living together (as I understand the original post), he is bound to know just a teeny bit about his Mistress,  what she likes, and...what she loves. 
 
I also agree with you, jdtallfem.

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RE: The Secret Lives of Dommes - 11/29/2006 11:50:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		I Top from the bottom with my sub sometimes. The mood strikes Me to be tied up and so I grab him by the hair of the head and say "Its my turn to be the attention whore"  So he does as he is told, I get my jollies and he is happy because he knows he has served Me well.

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RE: The Secret Lives of Dommes - 11/30/2006 3:04:38 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LotusSong

Sorry TJ.. I tried to reword it..but I just can't pose the question any better than I have.  Maybe someone else can.....E?
 


I'll try - but only 'cause its you, and with the caveat that this is how I understand it, OK!?

Picture a powerful Lady - Roman empress for example. She is unquestioningly in charge, and none dare risk even impertinence, let alone disobedience. She has a number of male slaves in her household, but she likes the look of one in particular - a muscly, handsome hunk of masculinity with dark Arab like features.

So, one evening she instructs him to report to her bedroom, and gives him permission to do something he never dreamed possible; to join her, in her bath and to touch her whilst he washes her. She knows very well the effect this will have on him and sure enough before long he's hard in a way that only long denial, self restraint and desperation makes possible.

She continues with the same method; turning before his eyes into the feminine fulfilment of all his dreams. She teases him and touches him, delighting in the contorted agony within him as his desire battles with his restraint - she's the empress after all.

And then finally, just when he thinks he can stand it no longer, she yields to his masculine strength and permits him to join her on the bed, relishing his now undeniable urges and surrendering to him completely as he, still mindful of who this woman is, makes love to her with wild abandon, holding her down and smothering her with his desire, which above all else is her desire.



Any good?
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RE: The Secret Lives of Dommes - 11/30/2006 4:38:44 AM   
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RE: The Secret Lives of Dommes - 11/30/2006 5:23:14 AM   
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Dont start the whole "men belong in stables" thing again.

There will be hissifits I tell ya!

E

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RE: The Secret Lives of Dommes - 11/30/2006 6:15:17 AM   
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