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RE: Successful Women Begrudge Husbands Who Earn Less, S... - 12/2/2006 10:58:31 AM   
Lordandmaster


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Status: offline 		All right, maybe you're the exception.  I'm sure you're aware that childbirth generally decreases sexual desire in many women:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=16324063&dopt=Abstract

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Have you had children, Morrigel?


Yes.  Two daughters.

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RE: Successful Women Begrudge Husbands Who Earn Less, S... - 12/2/2006 10:59:18 AM   
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I have had this argument with most of the people in my life at one time or another.

Money is just money, stuff is just stuff.

I have things I want to do with the time I have been gifted with here, and I will be damned if I let somebody else waste it...

Sinergy


I couldnt have said it better myself.  Money is only a tool. 

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RE: Successful Women Begrudge Husbands Who Earn Less, S... - 12/2/2006 11:07:36 AM   
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All right, maybe you're the exception.  I'm sure you're aware that childbirth generally decreases sexual desire in many women:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=16324063&dopt=Abstract

http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=1250833

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Have you had children, Morrigel?


Yes.  Two daughters.



It does temporarily, at least having my son changed the way I viewed sex, but that is not always a permanent thing as women approach their sexual prime long after their most fertile years

and menopause increases sexual desire in many women because of the increase in testosterone

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RE: Successful Women Begrudge Husbands Who Earn Less, S... - 12/2/2006 11:27:38 AM   
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There are plenty of younger, more submissive men in the world who would love to live in the home of a successful older woman, do the household chores, and dedicate their lives to pleasing her.

Regardless, I'm sure all these executive women will be a lot happier as soon as they stop looking for "equals" and start looking to get their needs met. There are plenty of male submissives--younger, the same age, older--who would have no problem with an arrangement like this, and who would hold up their end of it very well indeed.

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Agreed..there are some of us who would be happy with that arrangement. Panties skirts and aprons included.

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RE: Successful Women Begrudge Husbands Who Earn Less, S... - 12/2/2006 11:51:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		A very high percentage of guys I've dated, aren't very good at sex. It seems like the longer I've known a guy, the worse he gets. This isn't to call anyone here out, but what I've experienced is an almost, "This is how I get off, and this is how you will get off.", attitude, from lots of guys I've dated. I can only imagine married life ... guys say that after they are married, he wife no longer wants sex ... maybe the wife is saying, after we got married, the quality of the sex stopped having any actual quality. I'm twenty years old and have faked more orgasms than I can remember ... just to make it stop. Then you get guilt ... you are sort of lying to a person you are supposed to be close to. You have to feel guilty, because your partner is impatient, or can't take the time to take a shower after a night of partying in June, in Houston.
 
Again, not calling anyone out ... just presenting the other side of the story, perhaps.

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RE: Successful Women Begrudge Husbands Who Earn Less, S... - 12/2/2006 12:27:55 PM   
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RE: Successful Women Begrudge Husbands Who Earn Less, S... - 12/2/2006 12:34:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		That is one reason why I think people should communicate (be that verbal or physical) their needs - especially sexual. I've dated a few people, of both sexes, who turned out to be completely incompatible with me in regards to sex. The relationships ended there (I'm still friends with some, but nothing romatic). It saves a lot of time and heartache later, if you find out what each party needs and what each party can provide BEFORE saying "I do".
 
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RE: Successful Women Begrudge Husbands Who Earn Less, S... - 12/2/2006 6:10:33 PM   
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All right, maybe you're the exception.  I'm sure you're aware that childbirth generally decreases sexual desire in many women:


Immediately after the birth, and during nursing?  Sure.  Permanently?  No.  Sorry, but diminishment of desire any time after nursing is over is generally related to other factors than the biological ones.

Ambivalence about one's mate, stress and lack of pleasure in the act are much more likely to cause diminishment of desire than any strictly biological factor--in men OR women.

--M

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RE: Successful Women Begrudge Husbands Who Earn Less, S... - 12/2/2006 6:26:46 PM   
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I'm sure you're aware that childbirth generally decreases sexual desire in many women:


Oh, we still wanna fuck as much as we ever did, we just dont wanna fuck that slob who's on the couch snoring.  lmaooooo

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RE: Successful Women Begrudge Husbands Who Earn Less, S... - 12/2/2006 7:42:41 PM   
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Oh, we still wanna fuck as much as we ever did, we just dont wanna fuck that slob who's on the couch snoring.  lmaooooo

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RE: Successful Women Begrudge Husbands Who Earn Less, S... - 12/2/2006 8:00:51 PM   
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With so many crappy men in the world, I'm starting to understand why guys like me end up with more than one woman.


Yep.  It is really not all that hard to do the math.  What amazes me is the amount of verbiage that sexually incompetent, very very white guys have come up with over the years to explain why "Women" don't really like sex, don't really want sex, can't really enjoy sex, stop liking sex after marriage, only get married to get money and babies, and all the other CRAZY horseshit they peddle...all to explain the fact that their women don't want to have sex with THEM.

Because no one likes sex with people who don't make them come.

I mean...duh.

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RE: Successful Women Begrudge Husbands Who Earn Less, S... - 12/2/2006 8:13:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		I don't know how having children decreases one's sex drive.  Sure didn't work that way for me.  Not even during nursing...I was more tired, but that's about it.

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RE: Successful Women Begrudge Husbands Who Earn Less, S... - 12/2/2006 8:18:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		Decrease in desire lasted until after I finished nursing heavily and until they slept through the night. The sleep deprivation definitely caused loss of desire.

Additionally toddlers are grabbing you constantly. I used to joke that if my ex loved me, he wouldn't touch me. But in reality all he had to do was give me a few hours alone time and I would rest up and then be interested later on. Oddly enough, after him being grabbed at and not having any time to go to the bathroom alone, he didn't have much desire afterwards either.

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RE: Successful Women Begrudge Husbands Who Earn Less, S... - 12/2/2006 9:55:39 PM   
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This thread passed through my  noggin a few times today, yes it was a boring day

I just started wondering if this assclown person thinks it is better to be a woman than a man? If it is so much better, why not become a gal? I really think you maybe surprised that there are pros and cons to being either gender. It just seems like there is this sense that women are "getting away with stuff". I do not know why it becomes a gender issue when men get away with stuff too.. maybe different stuff, but stuff just the same.

I like people no matter their gender. I do not understand the animosity to the opposite sex, it makes me feel sorry for you assclown... I will send warm fuzzy thoughts to you!

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RE: Successful Women Begrudge Husbands Who Earn Less, S... - 12/2/2006 9:56:05 PM   
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Decrease in desire lasted until after I finished nursing heavily and until they slept through the night. The sleep deprivation definitely caused loss of desire.

Additionally toddlers are grabbing you constantly. I used to joke that if my ex loved me, he wouldn't touch me. But in reality all he had to do was give me a few hours alone time and I would rest up and then be interested later on. Oddly enough, after him being grabbed at and not having any time to go to the bathroom alone, he didn't have much desire afterwards either.


Yeah...seriously, it's just the classic case of a typical marriage then having children.  Getting up in the middle of the night, the baby's crying, everyone is tired, the mother is all used up, the father is pissed cuz now the boobs belong to the baby etc etc etc.  No time, no energy no inclination to 'stoke the coals' I suppose. 

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RE: Successful Women Begrudge Husbands Who Earn Less, S... - 12/3/2006 1:09:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		For what it's worth I'm young, attractive AND successful, with a 12 page list of expectations.

But you know, I still managed to find a man who isn't old enough to be my father who is equally young, attractive, AND successful with at least an equally long list of expectations.

Neither of us would settle for less.

And the moral of the story is, men and women can be equally demanding/potentially begrudging; but you don't have to be either if you just select your patner well

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RE: Successful Women Begrudge Husbands Who Earn Less, S... - 12/3/2006 2:07:24 AM   
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RE: Successful Women Begrudge Husbands Who Earn Less, S... - 12/11/2006 3:31:41 PM   
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I'm sure you're aware that childbirth generally decreases sexual desire in many women:


Oh, we still wanna fuck as much as we ever did, we just dont wanna fuck that slob who's on the couch snoring.  lmaooooo


(Yeah...the guy who bought the house, funded college for 4 kids, stayed with the wife during her "I don't know what I want to do with my life...I'll get there" years...that guy).

Yeah...that's him.

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RE: Successful Women Begrudge Husbands Who Earn Less, S... - 12/11/2006 3:42:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		Oh, you mean there are men who support their wives?

I had no idea...

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RE: Successful Women Begrudge Husbands Who Earn Less, S... - 12/11/2006 3:54:50 PM   
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Oh, you mean there are men who support their wives?

I had no idea...


Fewer as the years go by.

(We're getting smarter every day hahahaha).

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