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RE: Annoying things BDSM'ers say - 12/10/2006 8:13:19 AM   
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"consentual"


I've looked it up in three on-line dictionaries and one legal on-line dictionary and I can't find that word anywhere. 


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RE: Annoying things BDSM'ers say - 12/10/2006 8:13:31 AM   
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I didn't say it's a reflection of anyone's value as a person/dominant/submissive.  I said it's annoying.  That's the title of this thread.  Really, it takes as much effort to type "consentual" as it does to type "consensual."  So why not spell it the right way, as long as you're at it?

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OK.  A pet peeve of mine is when others get so stuck on minor grammatical errors that they can't see the person, but only the error. Probably every one of us has made grammatical errors, and I'm pretty sure it's not a very realistic reflection on our value as a person/dominant/submissive.

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RE: Annoying things BDSM'ers say - 12/10/2006 8:20:43 AM   
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There are so many, I'm not going to list all of them... especially since many have already been commented on. My current least favorite is whenever someone suggests that the entire other gender is inferior and submissive. I have a few female "friends" who often say men can never be dominant... and I've seen a few profiles recently that suggest the same thing. The other thing that's currently putting the piss in my Cornflakes has been mentioned, but I feel the need to say it anyway... capitalizing "My/Mine/Me/Whatever." Especially since I usually find it tied to six or seven OTHER atrocious word uses.

There. I feel slightly better now.

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RE: Annoying things BDSM'ers say - 12/10/2006 8:21:21 AM   
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ORIGINAL: cabernet

Ummm...  I hate to tell you this, but the word "dominant" is actually not a noun.  It is an adjective, a describing word.  Although in the BDSM world it has become accepted to use it as a noun because it is always *meant* to be followed by noun such as "man" or "woman".

However, I do know what you mean about "dominate".  That drives me CRAZY!!!  People use it as both an adjective or a noun.

"I am a dominate man."
"Don't mess around with those fakes, you need a real dominate!"


Believe it or not.. the word "party" used to be only a noun.,  One would "go to a party".. not "Let's go party"
 
And "cool" used to have only one syllable.
 
Is American English the only language in which you can make a new word variation or phrase valid by contant usage? 
 
(I'm still surprised that bling-bling is now in the dictionary.  Are we starting to accept "baby talk" now?) 

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RE: Annoying things BDSM'ers say - 12/10/2006 8:25:34 AM   
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RE: Annoying things BDSM'ers say - 12/10/2006 8:26:43 AM   
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Snoop Dogg is a BDSM'er?

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RE: Annoying things BDSM'ers say - 12/10/2006 8:27:44 AM   
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You have to be a masochist to listen to him.

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RE: Annoying things BDSM'ers say - 12/10/2006 8:28:15 AM   
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I think my sensitivity to this discussion is due to the fact that I've known some very intelligent and verbally articulate people who have a bit of a disability when it comes to the written word.  They simply don't have the same written skills as others.  So many people have learning disabilities in written expression.  I've seen posts that are so awkward with run on sentences, multiple ideas in one sentence, misspellings.  etc.  I don't know.  I've sung in choirs much of my life, and invariably there are those in a choir who sing off key.  I've always been of the belief that they should be invited to sing anyway.   

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RE: Annoying things BDSM'ers say - 12/10/2006 8:29:23 AM   
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The thing I find most annoying is submissives throwing themselves at Me, saying they are a "no limits slave."  Someone mentioned this in an earlier post as well.  It usually takes Me less than 30 seconds to help them realize they do have some limits after all.  I'll say things like "oh, then castration would be okay, being that you have no limits" or "that's great--I have an fetish for amputating limbs and since you have no limits, am sure that wouldn't be a problem," etc.  They either go away or quickly back off the no-limits thing.
 
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RE: Annoying things BDSM'ers say - 12/10/2006 8:30:15 AM   
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I think Ludacris is.  If you listen to the lyrics, there's almost always a reference to "whips and chains" "smacking booty"...Love those guys!

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RE: Annoying things BDSM'ers say - 12/10/2006 8:34:59 AM   
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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

Kinda like the word irregardless
 
And btw, "consentual" is not on webster's site.

Irregardless has made it into the dictionary, actually but it still bugs the crap out of me. It's a double-negative, meaning not not regarding.  Okayyyyyy.

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RE: Annoying things BDSM'ers say - 12/10/2006 8:39:17 AM   
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I personally like George Carlin's take on people pronouncing words incorrectly and then justifying it by saying "it's listed as an alternative pronounciation!"

From memory, so forgive me if I get this wrong...

"There's a reason it's not listed first... because it's fucking wrong!"

His example is forte, which should be pronounced "fort." No "ay" at the end, just "fort."

I'm not even going to start on popular usage. I don't know when we decided that letting people who can't think or speak properly edit dictionaries was a good idea. So I guess I did *start* on it... I meant I wasn't going to finish. :)


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RE: Annoying things BDSM'ers say - 12/10/2006 8:39:25 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

Because work is work, and not-work is not-work.  It sounds tremendously strange to me.  When you go to a baseball game with your friend, do you say you're "working with" him or her?  It also conveys the sense that the arrangement is temporary and meaningless.  It's not "I work with So-and-so"; it's "I'm working with So-and-so."  That means, before too long, you'll be "working with" someone else.  I think it must come from business lingo.  "Oh, Jack?  He's working with the Advotech Solutions guys in Bongsville today.  Leave a message for him; he'll be back tomorrow."

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ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie

I understand all of those except "working with."  Why don't you like that one?


Oh trust me, submitting to my Master is work!! And he makes it so intentionally. 

I work around my house.  A biker might work on his Harley.  I might work on a fun puzzle. I am working with my mom on managing her finances...etc.  Work is applying effort to achieve an end result...No?  It doesn't mean I'll be working on something else, for me.  But I was curious why you thought that since I've never seen it commented on as an annoyance before.  Thanks for explaining your point of view.

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RE: Annoying things BDSM'ers say - 12/10/2006 8:40:04 AM   
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Well, it depends on the type of choir you're talking about.  If you're giving concerts that people pay to hear, and making recordings that people will pay to buy, then anyone who sings off-key can't participate.  If it's a recreational or church choir, then sure, everyone should be invited.

Anyway, I'm not preventing anyone from singing.  Believe me, people will still be writing "consentual" long after I'm dead.

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ORIGINAL: darksdesire

I've sung in choirs much of my life, and invariably there are those in a choir who sing off key.  I've always been of the belief that they should be invited to sing anyway.   

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RE: Annoying things BDSM'ers say - 12/10/2006 8:48:12 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

Well, it depends on the type of choir you're talking about.  If you're giving concerts that people pay to hear, and making recordings that people will pay to buy, then anyone who sings off-key can't participate.  If it's a recreational or church choir, then sure, everyone should be invited.

Anyway, I'm not preventing anyone from singing.  Believe me, people will still be writing "consentual" long after I'm dead.

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ORIGINAL: darksdesire

I've sung in choirs much of my life, and invariably there are those in a choir who sing off key.  I've always been of the belief that they should be invited to sing anyway.   



Good point on the choir thing.    Fortunately, we are not writing the great American novel on CM, so we should be fine.  But ok, point taken.  Folks have their pet peeves, and it's fun to talk about them.   

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RE: Annoying things BDSM'ers say - 12/10/2006 8:49:58 AM   
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Well, that comes from confusion with the other "forte," as in music, which is two syllables.  But even OED recognizes the two-syllable pronunciation.  The one that annoys me more than "forte" is "AFForementioned," when there's no reason why it shouldn't be plain ordinary "aFOREmentioned."  "Processeez" for "processes" kind of bugs me too.  (Are we going to say "horseez" and "asseez" next?)

There are two valid principles that have to be balanced against each other, and no single human being's judgments about them is ever going to be authoritative.  Language changes, and dictionaries have to recognize that fact.  (There was a big hullabaloo when Noah Webster included "lengthy" in his dictionary, because that was considered a barbarism in his day.  Someone asked: "What's next--'strengthy'?")  But there's another principle too: much language change is spurred by ignorance, and knowledgeable people have a right to try to forestall the relentless march of ignorance.

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ORIGINAL: SmokingGun82

His example is forte, which should be pronounced "fort." No "ay" at the end, just "fort."

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RE: Annoying things BDSM'ers say - 12/10/2006 9:07:03 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Aileen68

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ORIGINAL: MisPandora

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I have (blah blah blah) years experience in the "lifestyle" 

OK, play along now -- what should they be saying instead?

To me that's almost like saying that I have 38 years experience breathing.
How does someone put aspects of who they are into such specific timeframes?
I didn't turn twenty five and then all of a sudden become submissive. 
It's been incorporated throughout my personality my whole life. 
Do I say that I have 38 years experience?
I don't know...it's three in the morning.  Maybe it would seem better to me
if they said something more in the line of "I've been aware of these aspects of me
and have chosen to act on them for x amount of years"
When they phrase it like I originally stated it is like they are submitting a resume
and I should be impressed that they are CEO.



Actually this one doesn't bother me much.  I don't know why.

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RE: Annoying things BDSM'ers say - 12/10/2006 9:13:17 AM   
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Actually this one doesn't bother me much.  I don't know why.


It bothers me because it is boastful.  And also, sometimes when you do the math, you'll discover that a guy is claiming to have been a Dom since he was 8 years old.  It's more funny than anything.


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RE: Annoying things BDSM'ers say - 12/10/2006 9:13:36 AM   
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I just wonder after reading this how often I annoy people.
I suppose we can all be very annoying sometimes.
However if someone tells me that they don't like something about me I might change. I may never have realised how much a certain thing about me annoys people.
I don't think that makes me any less a Dominant or a Domme or a dominant woman.
Just makes me a nice person lol.
I tell you my preferences you don't have to follow them. I just like it if you do.
I do hold up my hand to thinking that there are not many truly dominant men though.
But then I suppose the way we think is often guided by our experiences.
Just because I have never met one doesn't mean that they don't exist.
After all I have only met a very few of the men in the world.

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RE: Annoying things BDSM'ers say - 12/10/2006 9:26:45 AM   
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" What are you seeking" or any variation there of.
I have never had this question asked, but it didn't actually mean, tell me about your kink in detail. And a few pics would be appreciated.

I pretty much won't even entertain a conversation with some one who asks me this.

What I am seeking is a way to retire early with plenty of money to travel 9 months of the year.
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