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boytoyroy -> RE: Sir's Unbelievable Request (12/19/2006 6:54:23 PM)
it sounds like your" dom" is a real heel and,more interested in your sister than you ,

denika -> RE: Sir's Unbelievable Request (12/19/2006 8:58:38 PM)
We have a hard enough time as a community to be taken serious, to be seen as sane individuals in healthy relationships throw the word incestious into the mix and as a whole we become even bigger monsters and bogey men than what we are already seen as. Akisha, great point about Holmoka and Bernardo,my heart aches when I think of the poor parents of those girls they murdered... Daddy/Mommy play, from what I have seen of it (and this is just from those I have met) it wasn't sexual it was a power structure. I'm sure there are a few sexual based ones tho, and hey if it works for them,after all some people like to thrown up on. There is a line that we all draw in the sand, no matter what title you call yourself. That line is followed (or should be) followed by legalities and a sense of what is morally right and wrong for consenting adults. I think of the scenerio your Sir is heading too and I can't get the theme song from the deliverince out of my head...Not to mention the tacky joke.. "so if we divorce are we still brother and sister" The key word is FANTASY it may be considered 'sexy' to imagine two hot twins playing tonsil hockey, now change it around a bit and make it a brother.....now it gets creepy just as the sister scenerio should be....creepy not to mention illegal... denika just my two cents

Caitriona -> RE: Sir's Unbelievable Request (12/19/2006 9:10:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LittleDaisyGirl My Sir, that is, the dom I have been training with and hoping for a consideration collar from, has made it pretty clear that he thinks of my younger sister and I together and thinks it's hot. Recently he offered to spend more time with me if I would give him a picture of my sister, which I had previously said no to because it seems unfair to my sister to fuel someone's fantasy with her picture. Of course, I said no. I can't believe he offered that trade. I don't know what to do. I believe you've answered your own questions - of course I said no. I suggest that you talk to this Dom and let him know that this is one fantasy that makes you uncomfortable because it involves your sister (or whatever the case may be). I would suggest asking how your refusal to give him the pictures will affect your relationship. Is he going to move on? See you less? It seems to me that you have some questions that you need answered before you can decide what you want to do in regards to this relationship. Best of luck to you.

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Sir's Unbelievable Request (12/19/2006 9:15:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: denika We have a hard enough time as a community to be taken serious, to be seen as sane individuals in healthy relationships throw the word incestious into the mix and as a whole we become even bigger monsters and bogey men than what we are already seen as. There are people who have incest fantasies who are vanilla and who are kinky. You're right- anything that can be used against us, will. That doesn't mean we should deny reality as a short term veil for the vanillas to "feel safe." quote: There is a line that we all draw in the sand, no matter what title you call yourself. That line is followed (or should be) followed by legalities and a sense of what is morally right and wrong for consenting adults. I'm not sure what you mean by "followed by legalities"? I do what I do because I have decided it is right for me- not because a law tells me whether it's legal or not to do. quote: The key word is FANTASY it may be considered 'sexy' to imagine two hot twins playing tonsil hockey, now change it around a bit and make it a brother.....now it gets creepy just as the sister scenerio should be....creepy not to mention illegal... denika just my two cents So first it's "if it works for them" and now it's "creepy"? And somehow we should choose our personal relationships because of what the laws tell us is legal or not?

FelinePersuasion -> RE: Sir's Unbelievable Request (12/19/2006 9:30:14 PM)
I don't care about legal in some cases, cause sodomy is illegal in places, and spanking your partner is domestic abuse. I plan on doing both activities illegal or not.

KnightofMists -> RE: Sir's Unbelievable Request (12/19/2006 9:37:55 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SusanofO I dunno, maybe it's just me, but I think you gotta "draw the line" somewhere. This all happened in the 1990's. They are both currently in prison (he for life, she for who knows how long)...and their respective families are devastated. I am not sure.. but I believe she has been parolled about a year or so ago.

AquaticSub -> RE: Sir's Unbelievable Request (12/19/2006 9:40:33 PM)
I believe someone mentioned eariler in the thread that she was parolled.

MistressSassy66 -> RE: Sir's Unbelievable Request (12/19/2006 10:00:31 PM)
What should you do...maybe what I would do if I was a submissive and My Dom made that request.I would find another Dom.

LittleDaisyGirl -> RE: Sir's Unbelievable Request (12/19/2006 10:34:21 PM)
Wow. I had no idea that this would generate so many responses. I realize that it has taken me 6 pages of replies to post again, but what can I say? I work screwy hours. For the record, my sister is 19 (she just became a legal adult according to Nebraska law where we live). I'm thinking the same thing. "Sir" has to go. Just waiting till I see him again to let him know. I'm still just dumbfounded, though, that he would suggest such a thing.

MistressSassy66 -> RE: Sir's Unbelievable Request (12/19/2006 10:42:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LittleDaisyGirl Wow. I had no idea that this would generate so many responses. I realize that it has taken me 6 pages of replies to post again, but what can I say? I work screwy hours. For the record, my sister is 19 (she just became a legal adult according to Nebraska law where we live). I'm thinking the same thing. "Sir" has to go. Just waiting till I see him again to let him know. I'm still just dumbfounded, though, that he would suggest such a thing. Oh wow shes only 19. My niece 19 wanted to know somethings...I told her.I would however NOT session with her.I might teach her how to use a whip(not on a real person) etc safely,then hook her up to some sites. I think it would just be way to odd for Me to do a session with her there. Shes too much like My own.

Emperor1956 -> RE: Sir's Unbelievable Request (12/19/2006 11:00:32 PM)
It has taken 110 replies to say "NO". I only want to add that in every one of the United States, incest is an illegal act, and should anyone be so stupid to do it, they will be prosecuted. I realize LA is above the law (in her own mind) but the other folks on here might want to consider that for legal reasons (not even discussing the moral/ethical issues), incest is a bad idea. E.

MistressSassy66 -> RE: Sir's Unbelievable Request (12/19/2006 11:10:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Emperor1956 It has taken 110 replies to say "NO". I only want to add that in every one of the United States, incest is an illegal act, and should anyone be so stupid to do it, they will be prosecuted. I realize LA is above the law (in her own mind) but the other folks on here might want to consider that for legal reasons (not even discussing the moral/ethical issues), incest is a bad idea. E. I hate to burst your bubble about them being prosecuted... There are far more dangerous crimes that need attention.Not saying its right to look the other way,but unless someone says they were molested or raped they do look the other way.And if they do prosecute,it amounts to a slap on the wrist.

Missokyst -> RE: Sir's Unbelievable Request (12/19/2006 11:16:08 PM)
She was released in July 2005. He is in for life. Kyst quote: ORIGINAL: KnightofMists quote: ORIGINAL: SusanofO I dunno, maybe it's just me, but I think you gotta "draw the line" somewhere. This all happened in the 1990's. They are both currently in prison (he for life, she for who knows how long)...and their respective families are devastated. I am not sure.. but I believe she has been parolled about a year or so ago.

MistressSassy66 -> RE: Sir's Unbelievable Request (12/19/2006 11:47:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LittleDaisyGirl Wow. I had no idea that this would generate so many responses. I realize that it has taken me 6 pages of replies to post again, but what can I say? I work screwy hours. For the record, my sister is 19 (she just became a legal adult according to Nebraska law where we live). I'm thinking the same thing. "Sir" has to go. Just waiting till I see him again to let him know. I'm still just dumbfounded, though, that he would suggest such a thing. Curious why are you waiting?? An E-mail would do the trick as I dont think he needs a formal reason for cutting it off,A simple I am done with you would work.

Voltare -> RE: Sir's Unbelievable Request (12/20/2006 3:59:15 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Emperor1956 It has taken 110 replies to say "NO". I only want to add that in every one of the United States, incest is an illegal act, and should anyone be so stupid to do it, they will be prosecuted. I realize LA is above the law (in her own mind) but the other folks on here might want to consider that for legal reasons (not even discussing the moral/ethical issues), incest is a bad idea. It's illegal to have sex with a virgin in Washington state. Even on her wedding night. Oral sex is illegal in 19 states (last I knew.) Anal sex is illegal in 24 states. It's illegal for a Nevada legislator to wear a penis costume while on official business - during session. http://www.lectlaw.com/files/fun23.htm http://www.journalism.sfsu.edu/flux/gSpot/sexLaw.html Joking aside, much of what we engage in as consenting adults in a BDSM setting is also illegal - assault and battery being the most common. Consent is not a sufficiant defense against these laws. Interestingly enough, there's quite a bit of Biblical and Islamic precedence (for those who care) regarding a man marrying sisters. It doesn't bother me if adult siblings have sex (or even consenting adult father/daughter/mother/son/whatevers.) It does bother me, though, if precautions against pregnancy aren't taken - the baby of such unions doesn't have the same right to consent. And if anyone thinks that these kinks are far flung, take a quick look at the most popular erotic story catagories.

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Sir's Unbelievable Request (12/20/2006 7:56:24 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Emperor1956 It has taken 110 replies to say "NO". I only want to add that in every one of the United States, incest is an illegal act, and should anyone be so stupid to do it, they will be prosecuted. Hmm it's actually very unlikely for it to be prosecuted- and likely only if a personal friend/other relative made it into a big deal. quote: I realize LA is above the law (in her own mind) but the other folks on here might want to consider that for legal reasons (not even discussing the moral/ethical issues), incest is a bad idea. E. I don't think I'm above the law- merely that the law does not proscribe what I consider to be right or wrong, or what I choose to do.

littlesubjess -> RE: Sir's Unbelievable Request (12/20/2006 8:05:33 AM)
Personally, I'm worried that if he has got a hidden agenda, and he is darker than it seems, then meeting him to tell him to go f**k himself probably isnt a good idea ... he is obviously sick in the mind to believe that you would even consider doing such a thing, what if he turns on you when you tell him ?? I have heard waaay too many "crimes of passion" stories ... please please please be careful. Its all too easy to think you know someone when in actul fact, you dont know them at all. Submissively, Jess xxx

starshineowned -> RE: Sir's Unbelievable Request (12/20/2006 8:39:21 AM)
quote: It has taken 110 replies to say "NO". I only want to add that in every one of the United States, incest is an illegal act, and should anyone be so stupid to do it, they will be prosecuted. I realize LA is above the law (in her own mind) but the other folks on here might want to consider that for legal reasons (not even discussing the moral/ethical issues), incest is a bad idea. Think it has been said enough: Most of the kinks and fetish's Anyone has will most likely be, and most often are considered Immoral and Unethical by Anyone who does not have those particular kinks or fetish's. We override that immoral/unethical boundry by demanding that all those involved be considered consenting adults where ever it is they reside. Legalitys doesn't have diddly to do with any of this simply (as has already been stated) because a vast majority of kinks and fetish's are Illegal. So why are they illegal if they involve consenting adults? Because alot of the illegal status came when (I think) the religious morals and ethics committees some how wormed their way into our political foundations. Isn't the basis of all this to try and not judge the morality and ethics, and support people doing what they want to do because they are consenting adults? I don't have to like or I may even have a ewwwwww factor about some particular things..but if I don't support their right as consenting adults to do it..then I am doing nothing but damning myself in the process. If the persons involved are minors or are unconsenting in any form or fashion..then completely agree without question it is Wrong. If either of these things are not the case then if they want to screw their brother, eat shit, lick dirty feet..what the hell ever..then rock on. Well Wishes starshine Happy slave of Master Delvin

BDSM05478 -> RE: Sir's Unbelievable Request (12/20/2006 12:07:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: starshineowned Isn't the basis of all this to try and not judge the morality and ethics, and support people doing what they want to do because they are consenting adults? I don't have to like or I may even have a ewwwwww factor about some particular things..but if I don't support their right as consenting adults to do it..then I am doing nothing but damning myself in the process. If the persons involved are minors or are unconsenting in any form or fashion..then completely agree without question it is Wrong. If either of these things are not the case then if they want to screw their brother, eat shit, lick dirty feet..what the hell ever..then rock on. Well Wishes starshine Happy slave of Master Delvin Amen! Sorry to get to this dance late but ....... Incest is a very common fantasy, at least I come to that conclusion by the amounts of fantasy availible in that area. Really I can not think of ONE act that falls in wiitwd that would not be considered, immoral, illegal or disgusting by someone or some group somewhere. I've acted out fantasies I have about insect relationships, lost my virginity to my first cousin and thought i was going to marry him till i was about 15 and he went to jail, hell my whole family use to joke about our relationship. Do I have any guilt about my actions not a drop. do I go blabbling my mouth about my experiences, fantasies or fetishes not around people that don't know me. not because I am ashamed of myself but because I have no patience for closeminded, loudmouth, short sighted, opinionated, judgemental, self rightgous idiots and do not wish to fullfill my fantasy of killing them just yet.

MagiksSlave -> RE: Sir's Unbelievable Request (12/20/2006 12:13:05 PM)
wait its elegal to have sex with a virgin in washinton.... that makes no sence at all how do you become a non virgin if no one can have sex with you??? someone had their head up their ass when makeing that law!! LOL Magik's slave

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