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RE: Where does money come into it ? - 3/2/2005 10:02:16 PM

outlawrider

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m o n e y?
every domme "i" ever met, one of the first 3 questions is always how much money do you have?> always!
my 1st domme/mistress cost me $50,000 when iwas with Her.
and so far, every domme i have talked to since,..wants money.
never have i ever had 1 domme say my money is mine, in a 24/7 setup.
i am asked to give up everything and put it in Their purse.

now,..i have no idea how many females w/ male doms do it,...but "i" have been told i am to have nothing by every doome i talk to.

now, you folks tell me?
thanks
outlaw

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RE: Where does money come into it ? - 7/6/2005 2:42:12 AM

McWhips

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ORIGINAL: outlawrider

m o n e y?
every domme "i" ever met, one of the first 3 questions is always how much money do you have?> always!
my 1st domme/mistress cost me $50,000 when iwas with Her.
and so far, every domme i have talked to since,..wants money.
never have i ever had 1 domme say my money is mine, in a 24/7 setup.
i am asked to give up everything and put it in Their purse.

now,..i have no idea how many females w/ male doms do it,...but "i" have been told i am to have nothing by every doome i talk to.

now, you folks tell me?
thanks
outlaw

OMFG! Thats rediculous! 50.000 then after which every Domme wants money? and asks you how much u got ? If all they want is money then why do u bother? I would argue that as opposed to Dommes these women you have met are simnply people who want your money and lots of it. Why dont you just throw a huge wad of cash from a very high building and u will get the same effect!

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RE: Where does money come into it ? - 7/6/2005 7:03:27 AM

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RE: Where does money come into it ? - 7/6/2005 9:39:00 AM

lonewolf05

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Interestingly enough, My first financial slave was/is an impoverished student! He lives on a frail pittance (less than $500/month!) but he begged Me to financially use him.

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interesting. and here i am, being told my $700 was a joke. hmm. i find You are a fine Lady, and i found my new Ms has no issue either with it.
i am happy to find 2 such Ladies. You and Her.
MOST dominants "I" have talked to, and heard from, have told me if i do not have a minimum of $20k do not bother talking to them.

thank You for being a real Lady.

the wolf

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RE: Where does money come into it ? - 7/6/2005 10:06:56 AM

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MOST dominants "I" have talked to, and heard from, have told me if i do not have a minimum of $20k do not bother talking to them.

thank You for being a real Lady.

the wolf

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If I have a slave in a 24/7 live in relationship, AND she is working or has an income, AND if my finances are low, I may discuss her paying something towards things like electricity, gas and foos and her personal phone calls..... However, generally as a Master, I would prefer to handle such things myself as I also believe that our lifestyle would agree that a master should provide for his kajira (slave). That being the case I also believe that any slave of mine should be encouraged in her work/profession/study, and although my Gorean lifestyle dictates that her income belongs to be, in reality it would be banked in her account so she has the financial support should we decide to separate. If and only if, she feel strongly about paying her way then I will negotiate such areas with her as long as she remembers that my decision is final. Just a case of looking at the whole picture realistically and understanding that she may devote many years to serving me, she must never be left without the ability to live on her own for what ever reason. Having had my 2nd wife take me for AU$2.5 million years ago and left me with no leg to stand on I never want to see anyone in my care in that possition.

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RE: Where does money come into it ? - 7/16/2005 12:36:55 AM

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ORIGINAL: outlawrider aka lonewolf05 aka garylee aka ...........too many

m o n e y?
every domme "i" ever met, one of the first 3 questions is always how much money do you have?> always!
my 1st domme/mistress cost me $50,000 when i was with Her.
and so far, every domme i have talked to since,..wants money.
never have i ever had 1 domme say my money is mine, in a 24/7 setup.
i am asked to give up everything and put it in Their purse.

now,..i have no idea how many females w/ male doms do it,...but "i" have been told i am to have nothing by every domme i talk to.

now, you folks tell me?
thanks
outlaw

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update;
7/16/05 2:30am central
and the new domme i am supposed-to meet soon,...says She wants me to hand over my money too as soon as i walk in the door.
so nothing has changed yet in my life or view.

thanks the wolf. (wow another one of my old posts here....)

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RE: Where does money come into it ? - 7/16/2005 1:18:15 AM

McWhips

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Sheeesh, with all these posts from these 2 about how you need at least 20K a year and have to give them lots of money I am starting to think that there is no such thing as a Dominant woman who just wants a submissive. lol. Its a shame seeing as giving a Domme lots of money to me is little different from seeing a Pro Domme and not a relationship at all!.

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RE: Where does money come into it ? - 7/16/2005 1:19:55 AM

McWhips

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No offence to wolf and outlaw but I wouldnt put it past you if you are just being used as sources of money.

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RE: Where does money come into it ? - 7/16/2005 5:34:24 AM

LadyJulieAnn

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quote:

ORIGINAL: outlawrider

m o n e y?
every domme "i" ever met, one of the first 3 questions is always how much money do you have?> always!
my 1st domme/mistress cost me $50,000 when iwas with Her.
and so far, every domme i have talked to since,..wants money.
never have i ever had 1 domme say my money is mine, in a 24/7 setup.
i am asked to give up everything and put it in Their purse.

now,..i have no idea how many females w/ male doms do it,...but "i" have been told i am to have nothing by every doome i talk to.

now, you folks tell me?
thanks
outlaw

Perhaps you should use better judgement when choosing a partner.

Be well,
Julie

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RE: Where does money come into it ? - 7/16/2005 5:39:06 AM

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quote:

update;
7/16/05 2:30am central
and the new domme i am supposed-to meet soon,...says She wants me to hand over my money too as soon as i walk in the door.
so nothing has changed yet in my life or view.

thanks the wolf. (wow another one of my old posts here....)

Clearly you are aware of the requirement to "hand over" your money to her when you meet. You are making the decision to enter into a situation where you know she wants your money.

Be well,
Julie

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RE: Where does money come into it ? - 7/16/2005 6:32:55 AM

LadyAngelika

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Yes. I've come to realise some of them are suckers for punishment.

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RE: Where does money come into it ? - 7/16/2005 8:22:36 AM

pleasureforHim

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In chat (TheLobby) i once was PM'd by a submissive woman who had (she said) sent her last $7,000 ti a Dom in NYC as a "tribute" to show her "good faith" before being permitted to meet Him. Once having met Him, He chained her to a radiator for 3 days and beat her so badly she ended up in the emergency room. The local district attorney would not prosecute, because she had "consented" to being restrained, and he did not think a jury could distinquish between restraining a girl on a bed for two hours of pleasure, compared to three days chained to a radiator and beaten half to death.

i have no way of knowing whether this was a true story. i can say the women pestered me for awhile, trying to persuade me to think up some theory under which she could recover her $7,000. None was avialable, because essentially she had made a gift without any quid pro quo (or else you can say she got it, because she was allowed to meet the Dom).

In my time on CM, i have not been asked for money by any man; nor would i be in a position to send it; nor would i even if i could. It seems deliberately contrary to the role of the Dom or Master to protect the submissive woman. i might place some of the long distance calls. i might buy a microphone for my Yahoo IM. But i'd never send money. i believe a Dom or Master has self-control, including control over His finances. He may not live the Life of Riley, but He can pay His own way.

pleasureforHim

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RE: Where does money come into it ? - 7/16/2005 8:34:25 AM

EmeraldSlave2

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It seems deliberately contrary to the role of the Dom or Master to protect the submissive woman. i might place some of the long distance calls.

Well, first, it's not necessarily the role of the dominant to protect the sub. Many dominants do not see that as their place, nor do they have any desire to do so. Even if they did it would be perfectly acceptable for a dominant to say "Be sure you protect yourself" and thus make the submissive the delegatory person responsible for their own protection.

Secondly, giving money is not at all antithetical to protection. Perhaps the dominant is a better manager of finances, perhaps the dominant has many more investment opportunities to do better things with the money. Or perhaps it's just how it works best for all involved.

I've mentioned a few times the various reasons I enjoy being able to be of service to the Owner in all ways, including financially. Interestingly enough the Owner is also the one who has accepted money from me the least of all of my partners.

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RE: Where does money come into it ? - 7/16/2005 9:23:57 AM

lonewolf05

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Why dont you just throw a huge wad of cash from a very high building and u will get the same effect!

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the last "i" heard some guy, here local, a few years ago, threw money around in the street and was arrested for "inciting a riot, causing a public disturbance" and was put under psychiatric care for observation.

but i grab your idea.
and uh..outlawrider is my old nick here along with others
thanks the wolf

p/s as to someone saying liking being punished or some sort......"I" have YET to find 1 domme anywhere that did NOT ask for money. always seemed to ME it is s.o.p. ===

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RE: Where does money come into it ? - 7/16/2005 9:44:13 AM

AAkasha

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ORIGINAL: McWhips

Sheeesh, with all these posts from these 2 about how you need at least 20K a year and have to give them lots of money I am starting to think that there is no such thing as a Dominant woman who just wants a submissive. lol. Its a shame seeing as giving a Domme lots of money to me is little different from seeing a Pro Domme and not a relationship at all!.

Outlaw and lonewolf are the same person.

He should exercise better judgement. Why isn't the issue of money out of the way on the FIRST phone call? Before plans to meet are set up? He should say, "I will not be giving you any money, I want to make that clear from the start."

Also, we do not hear both sides of this story. She asked for money -- ok, for what? For rent? Room and board? Did she ask for him to pay up front for utilities? He is looking to be a live in slave and is showing up at the door without ever meeting her. He lives in his van. Is he going to sleep in his van in front of her place (what would neighbors say?) or be let in for a trial in-house? If so, I don't think it's unreasonable that she ask for some money to cover food, utilities, or a portion of rent.

He could be more selective of partners. However, I don't know any woman who would take a live in slave, from out of state, and just let him move in.

Akasha

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RE: Where does money come into it ? - 7/16/2005 9:52:35 AM

LadyJulieAnn

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ORIGINAL: lonewolf05

p/s as to someone saying liking being punished or some sort......"I" have YET to find 1 domme anywhere that did NOT ask for money. always seemed to ME it is s.o.p. ===

I am pretty sure that there are at least three Dommes on this page of postings, including myself, that don't require monetary tribute.

Be well,
Julie

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RE: Where does money come into it ? - 7/16/2005 10:17:16 AM

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He could be more selective of partners. However, I don't know any woman who would take a live in slave, from out of state, and just let him move in.

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first off, just because YOU don't AAkasha doesn't mean the rest of the world thinks like You do. and the one i am supposed to meet this coming week IS that kind......JUST like my 1st Ms.!!
2nd
it is not about tribute.......it is about the moment you walk in the door....EVERY dime you have goes in HER pocket and you never see any of it again.......THAT is HOW "I" was taught it is supposed-to-be.
i have YET to meet ONE woman anywhere on this planet didn't ask for money. if i ever found 1 that said sure you can have some in your own pocket i would faint!

the wolf.......

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RE: Where does money come into it ? - 7/16/2005 10:24:04 AM

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ORIGINAL: lonewolf05

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He could be more selective of partners. However, I don't know any woman who would take a live in slave, from out of state, and just let him move in.

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first off, just because YOU don't AAkasha doesn't mean the rest of the world thinks like You do. and the one i am supposed to meet this coming week IS that kind......JUST like my 1st Ms.!!
2nd
it is not about tribute.......it is about the moment you walk in the door....EVERY dime you have goes in HER pocket and you never see any of it again.......THAT is HOW "I" was taught it is supposed-to-be.
i have YET to meet ONE woman anywhere on this planet didn't ask for money. if i ever found 1 that said sure you can have some in your own pocket i would faint!

the wolf.......

Do you believe a woman you have never met in person should allow you to live in her house and you not have to pay anything toward rent, utilities, food, etc?

Akasha

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RE: Where does money come into it ? - 7/16/2005 10:56:58 AM

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Do you believe a woman you have never met in person should allow you to live in her house and you not have to pay anything toward rent, utilities, food, etc?

Akasha
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again You see only what You want to see. i SAID......."I" have NOT been allowed to have ANY of my own money...........once you walk in the door. every female i have been with in my life wants EVERY dime in your pocket...
a domme is no different than a vanilla woman.......
every female i have met has wanted ALL the money.
THAT is what i SAID........
whew. You try my patience. i was trained by my 1st Ms that NO domme will allow a boy to have ANY money. see the word ANY?
THAT is the crux of the matter....
i have always been flat broke and that is what i am used to.

i just want to know WHERE are these guys that say they get to KEEP their money. i havent found 1 situation yet where a male is allowed to HAVE any.

grrrrrrrrr...............so tired of repeating myself over n over n over....

the wolf

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RE: Where does money come into it ? - 7/16/2005 11:02:45 AM

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ORIGINAL: lonewolf05

Do you believe a woman you have never met in person should allow you to live in her house and you not have to pay anything toward rent, utilities, food, etc?

Akasha
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again You see only what You want to see. i SAID......."I" have NOT been allowed to have ANY of my own money...........once you walk in the door. every female i have been with in my life wants EVERY dime in your pocket...
a domme is no different than a vanilla woman.......
every female i have met has wanted ALL the money.
THAT is what i SAID........
whew. You try my patience. i was trained by my 1st Ms that NO domme will allow a boy to have ANY money. see the word ANY?
THAT is the crux of the matter....
i have always been flat broke and that is what i am used to.

i just want to know WHERE are these guys that say they get to KEEP their money. i havent found 1 situation yet where a male is allowed to HAVE any.

grrrrrrrrr...............so tired of repeating myself over n over n over....

the wolf

Your choice in women is flawed, or you are attracting the wrong women.

None of the femdoms who post on here regularly, to my knowledge, consider money any kind of a requirement for a personal relationship. So don't say that they are all after money; some of the new subs on here might start believing it, and miss out on something.

Akasha

< Message edited by AAkasha -- 7/16/2005 11:03:17 AM >

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