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RE: am i alone? - 12/23/2006 5:12:36 PM   
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omg...that's funny.

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RE: am i alone? - 12/23/2006 5:13:30 PM   
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So if noone is willing to relocate, how do you meet someone unless they are already local to you?


It wasn't my intent to offer a solution but to relate my experience and my reaction to ads from people "willing to relocate."

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RE: am i alone? - 12/23/2006 5:17:09 PM   
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I think most likely she feels overwhelmed and was looking for a rescuer ...   That's a very bad reason to go Dom hunting, and it makes her (and more importantly her children) especially vulnerable to men who couldn't care less about her well-being.   I hope she puts energy into sorting it all out and puts off seeking a Dom until she's in a better space.



And THAT is precisely the point.

If she thought *I* was some mean person, just what is she going to do if she happens to run across someone like that? More importantly, what will her CHILDREN do if that happens?

That is important enough to not sugar coat things, not be all nicey nicey about what she's talking about. She has larger issues to worry about than her need for domination for goodness sake!!

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RE: am i alone? - 12/23/2006 5:19:06 PM   
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OMG!!  complete hogwash!  Mother's are most often MORE protective of their lives than anyone else. Just because she has children does not make her an "easy target".  i am so sick of this "all mothers are deperate" kind of logic.  It's complete horse manure.  When i had kids my standards went up not down!
And has anyone here ever heard the saying about assumptions before!  Don't assume because it makes an ASS out of U and ME!  How can you possibly say that because her name here is tears and torment that she is suffering from postpartum depression.  Good grief!  That's a ridiculous assumption! i can think of a hundred reasons why someone might choose that as thier screenname....none of them having to do with children at all!   LMAO! 

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RE: am i alone? - 12/23/2006 5:22:03 PM   
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She has larger issues to worry about than her need for domination for goodness sake!!

juliet
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And THAT is my point...you have no idea if she has larger issues or not...you're just assuming she does.

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RE: am i alone? - 12/23/2006 5:23:49 PM   
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Well she deleted her account.  I hope people give more friendly advice in the future.


I think most likely she feels overwhelmed and was looking for a rescuer ... maybe suffering postpartum depression going by her screen name.   That's a very bad reason to go Dom hunting, and it makes her (and more importantly her children) especially vulnerable to men who couldn't care less about her well-being.   I hope she puts energy into sorting it all out and puts off seeking a Dom until she's in a better space.

That sounds very possible, and I hope for the same.  As to staying single till she sorts things out, well, some people can't stand that isolation.  We can't make her choices for her, so hopefully she will get what she needs and wisely.

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RE: am i alone? - 12/23/2006 5:24:03 PM   
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Dirty boy!!  LOL  Ummm...i think You are referring to fellatio not fallacious, but i understand the mental connection there...too funny!

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RE: am i alone? - 12/23/2006 5:26:02 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MaryT

I think most likely she feels overwhelmed and was looking for a rescuer ...   That's a very bad reason to go Dom hunting, and it makes her (and more importantly her children) especially vulnerable to men who couldn't care less about her well-being.   I hope she puts energy into sorting it all out and puts off seeking a Dom until she's in a better space.



And THAT is precisely the point.

If she thought *I* was some mean person, just what is she going to do if she happens to run across someone like that? More importantly, what will her CHILDREN do if that happens?

That is important enough to not sugar coat things, not be all nicey nicey about what she's talking about. She has larger issues to worry about than her need for domination for goodness sake!!

juliet

Low self esteem makes one more vulnerable to bad sorts than anything else.  Funny how you know this but you probably sent her self esteem down the toilet just now.

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RE: am i alone? - 12/23/2006 5:28:25 PM   
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OMG!!  complete hogwash!  Mother's are most often MORE protective of their lives than anyone else. Just because she has children does not make her an "easy target".  i am so sick of this "all mothers are deperate" kind of logic.  It's complete horse manure.  When i had kids my standards went up not down!
And has anyone here ever heard the saying about assumptions before!  Don't assume because it makes an ASS out of U and ME!  How can you possibly say that because her name here is tears and torment that she is suffering from postpartum depression.  Good grief!  That's a ridiculous assumption! i can think of a hundred reasons why someone might choose that as thier screenname....none of them having to do with children at all!   LMAO! 


That would be you and not others. We've had offers from women who have said they'd leave their kids with their mothers, their neighbors or "find someone" to take them if only we'd let them  relocate here. We turn them down fast!

While I may not know that she'd do that, neither do you know that she wouldn't. Just as you base your comments on the good experiences of your friends, so do I base my comments on the experiences I've had.

When I hear a young woman saying she's on maternity leave and at the same time saying she's looking for a dominant, wants to relocate, and is wondering if she's somehow unacceptable to dominants out there, I start wondering just how disposable those people she is responsible for are.

And I honestly don't care if she gets a bit miffed. Nor do I care if you do either Aeon. In fact, I want her angry with me. I want her so angry that she starts to think beyond her loneliness and desperation, and comes to the determined conclusion that she damn well CAN make it on her own.

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RE: am i alone? - 12/23/2006 5:29:06 PM   
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Read her first four posts, nothing fits correctly even for a 23 year old.  She's gone already?
has a 6 year old, left out of the post, and a newborn, 4 years in the biz and gone without a trace,  has a place she is moving to, left out of first post, and yadda yadda yadda....

Where is the righteous indignation? She up and hauls blocks becasue of Julie?  Bullshit.

Why do I have to mewl and puke over every player who comes out here?  I mean I ain't really mad, but what politically correct law says that I have to kiss every fuck weasels ass that comes here, signs up, and in case you didn't read her profile, says exactly what her profile says in her first post? 

Yeah, that's reality happens every fuckin day, I have decided to commit suicide tonight, and I just wanted my 200,000 closest friends here at collarme to know that  I don't want you to talk me out of it......C'mon......

I want a  drop dead gorgeous lesbian back woman with an ass that puts all the ass models ever been in Elle's to shame, to suck my dick and grovel over me, and since I can't find it I am coming out here to get everyone's insightful and intelligent and unbiased tips and tricks on how to do so, and I now expect that anyone out here will pet me, and fondle me, and make me feel good and barring that, at least be like Sybil Fawlty on the telephone, and say:

I knooooooooowwwwwwwwww!
I knoooooooooowwwwwwwwwww!

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RE: am i alone? - 12/23/2006 5:32:32 PM   
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Low self esteem makes one more vulnerable to bad sorts than anything else.  Funny how you know this but you probably sent her self esteem down the toilet just now.


Now who's underestimating the woman? If she is so bothered by a post in an online forum as to send her self esteem down the toilet, she's got bigger problems than her perceived lack of desireability.

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RE: am i alone? - 12/23/2006 5:35:10 PM   
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She did come here for a reason, she wasn't just trolling.  She had a question, I answered it.  She thanked me for that answer in private before deleting her profile.

She also got a large helping of nonconsentual, cruel humiliation.  Well meaning doesn't make it any more appropriate.

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RE: am i alone? - 12/23/2006 5:35:26 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Aeon

OMG!!  complete hogwash!  Mother's are most often MORE protective of their lives than anyone else. Just because she has children does not make her an "easy target".  i am so sick of this "all mothers are deperate" kind of logic.  It's complete horse manure.  When i had kids my standards went up not down!
And has anyone here ever heard the saying about assumptions before!  Don't assume because it makes an ASS out of U and ME!  How can you possibly say that because her name here is tears and torment that she is suffering from postpartum depression.  Good grief!  That's a ridiculous assumption! i can think of a hundred reasons why someone might choose that as thier screenname....none of them having to do with children at all!   LMAO! 


I've raised two myself and am quite familiar with maternal instincts.  I never said anything like "all mothers are desparate" so that leap is your own - and there was nothing logical about it.  I do know that the last thing I would be thinking about if I had a new baby on my hands would be looking for a Dom, and I sure as hell wouldn't be willing to uproot for one. That's just poor judgment - plain and simple.  I could believe she is simply an idiot but she didn't come across that way.  So I'm banking on emotional distress leading to poor judgment - which is hardly a stretch.  And, yes, her screen name feeds my perception.

I don't believe I made an ass out of anyone.  And since you are laughing yours off, I'll consider it a mute point.

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RE: am i alone? - 12/23/2006 5:35:41 PM   
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Read her first four posts, nothing fits correctly even for a 23 year old.  She's gone already?
has a 6 year old, left out of the post, and a newborn, 4 years in the biz and gone without a trace,  has a place she is moving to, left out of first post, and yadda yadda yadda....

Where is the righteous indignation? She up and hauls blocks becasue of Julie?  Bullshit.

Why do I have to mewl and puke over every player who comes out here?  I mean I ain't really mad, but what politically correct law says that I have to kiss every fuck weasels ass that comes here, signs up, and in case you didn't read her profile, says exactly what her profile says in her first post? 

Yeah, that's reality happens every fuckin day, I have decided to commit suicide tonight, and I just wanted my 200,000 closest friends here at collarme to know that  I don't want you to talk me out of it......C'mon......

I want a  drop dead gorgeous lesbian back woman with an ass that puts all the ass models ever been in Elle's to shame, to suck my dick and grovel over me, and since I can't find it I am coming out here to get everyone's insightful and intelligent and unbiased tips and tricks on how to do so, and I now expect that anyone out here will pet me, and fondle me, and make me feel good and barring that, at least be like Sybil Fawlty on the telephone, and say:

I knooooooooowwwwwwwwww!
I knoooooooooowwwwwwwwwww!

Begin the Beguine,
Artie Shaw





I knooooowwwwww!
I knooooowwwwwwww!!

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RE: am i alone? - 12/23/2006 5:39:28 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: akbarbarian

Low self esteem makes one more vulnerable to bad sorts than anything else.  Funny how you know this but you probably sent her self esteem down the toilet just now.


Now who's underestimating the woman? If she is so bothered by a post in an online forum as to send her self esteem down the toilet, she's got bigger problems than her perceived lack of desireability.

In fact, I want her angry with me. I want her so angry that she starts to think beyond her loneliness and desperation, and comes to the determined conclusion that she damn well CAN make it on her own.
juliet

Wanting to make her angry, that's emotional manipulation.  That's the verbal version of a drunken man with a bottle who uses domestic violence to get his way.  It's non consentual, it's abuse.  You expect you can make her angry, but don't consider the alternative to anger is depression?  Those two emotions are very closely linked.  If your ego permits, take a good look at what you've done.  You want to make her upset enough that she'll do what you want her to.

< Message edited by akbarbarian -- 12/23/2006 5:41:29 PM >


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RE: am i alone? - 12/23/2006 5:42:28 PM   
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i'm not basing my comments to her on anything other than my own opinions and her original post.  Some of my comments to you were based on my experiences but not to her.  i simply took what she said for what it was and answered with the best most HELPFUL advice i could.  i didn't feel the need to go rooting around in her profile and trying to read bewtween the lines and all of that hooha.  i simply read her question and without judging gave her the best advice i could.  Which is what we ALL should be doing her.

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RE: am i alone? - 12/23/2006 5:45:07 PM   
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Wanting to make her angry, that's emotional manipulation.  That's the verbal version of a drunken man with a bottle who uses domestic violence to get his way.  It's non consentual, it's abuse.  You expect you can make her angry, but don't consider the alternative to anger is depression?  Those two emotions are very closely linked.  If your ego permits, take a good look at what you've done.  You want to make her upset enough that she'll do what you want her to.


yea yea yea...have you figured out yet that I really don't care what you think of what I said, and that all your oh so convincing attempts to convince me of the error of my ways isn't working?

I stand by what I said, how I said it and the reasons why I said it. Beyond that, we're just going to have to agree to disagree. Don't worry though.. you'll get over it.

juliet

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RE: am i alone? - 12/23/2006 5:46:27 PM   
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No one is saying You HAVE to mew and puke over every player that comes out, but i see this conitinually here on the boards.  Someone comes in...asks a perfectly legitimate question...and is completely berated by someone because they went and read her profile and are trying to pull info from all four corners of the earth to come up with some big picture of the situation.  Why not just answer the fucking question without all the lecturing and judging and finger-wagging?

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RE: am i alone? - 12/23/2006 5:47:55 PM   
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Wanting to make her angry, that's emotional manipulation.  That's the verbal version of a drunken man with a bottle who uses domestic violence to get his way.  It's non consentual, it's abuse. 


I think anyone who participates in a forum like this is consenting to any honest reply.  It bothers me to see the term "consentual" twisted around, especially when it's twisted around free speech in an open forum.  Also, your comparison to domestic violence is just ludicrous.

MaryT, who does violence prevention education for a living

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RE: am i alone? - 12/23/2006 5:48:28 PM   
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No one is saying You HAVE to mew and puke over every player that comes out, but i see this conitinually here on the boards.  Someone comes in...asks a perfectly legitimate question...and is completely berated by someone because they went and read her profile and are trying to pull info from all four corners of the earth to come up with some big picture of the situation.  Why not just answer the fucking question without all the lecturing and judging and finger-wagging?


Don't you just hate it when you can't control the comments of other people to say exactly what you would say in any given situation?

juliet

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