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RE: am i alone? - 12/23/2006 6:09:20 PM   
mnottertail


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Status: offline 		Well, there you have it, faith will set you free......everyone!!!!!! go and do likewise.

This is the sort of euphamistic notion that causes people to burn up.


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RE: am i alone? - 12/23/2006 6:10:02 PM   
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RE: am i alone? - 12/23/2006 6:10:12 PM   
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Verbal abuse is just as serious as physical abuse.


I assure you that is not the case.  I have heard of no case where a person died of verbal abuse.  BTW, any post on a forum does not qualify as "verbal abuse" anyway.  Think about the definition of "verbal."

My concern for the lady was that she seemed (thus her children as well) vulnerable to abuse - the real McCoy, not meaningless cyber stuff, such as your off-the-wall demonization of Juliet.  Or don't you think that your response to Juliet counts? 

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RE: am i alone? - 12/23/2006 6:15:20 PM   
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"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"
                                     JESUS


hehehe...this is fun...

ah...Aeon: shame shame shame - casting the Lord's name in vain AND quoting scripture all in the same post?!!

juliet

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RE: am i alone? - 12/23/2006 6:15:44 PM   
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You all feel the need to jump down someone's throat based on assumptions and judge them...which i must add NOBODY has the right to do. Not you or anyone else has the right to EVER judge another human being. 


Given your posts on this thread, do you realize the hypocracy of those words?

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RE: am i alone? - 12/23/2006 6:16:03 PM   
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Ain't that the goddamn truth...

Give people the choice between right and wrong and nine times out of ten they will choose wrong.  But SOME people forget sometimes that they are just as much a part of perpetuating this theme of humanity as the rest of their fellow humans are.
We are none of us any better than our neighbors.

"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"
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As a norwegian heathen with a long history of being decimated by the christians, lovely lady, I take your intent but refuse its meaning.


And if everyone lit, just one little candle what a bright world this would be...

a fine notion, but this is the very reason chain letters don't work.  Now (and this is in general to all) if it makes you feel like Dudly Dooright to gladhand all that come and are heavy laden --- I got no problem, but don't try and make out like it actually is valuable to mankind.(as an aside, i mean the word mandkind in its original sense of  kin and kind; cattle) 


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RE: am i alone? - 12/23/2006 6:17:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		Mary i have to interject here and say that people can die from emotional and verbal abuse just as they die from physical abuse.  The problem is that when people commit suicide because they believe that they are worth nothing to noone you can't really say definitively..."They died of verbal abuse". But let me tell you as a person who was verbally and emotionally abused from age 3 up until age 15 that it can most definitely kill. If i hadn't left home then i would have killed myself.

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RE: am i alone? - 12/23/2006 6:18:28 PM   
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Duh!!  that why i said NEARLY 150!  No valid points to add huh?


But...you're not really saying anything new. I haven't changed my views, you haven't changed yours. I'm betting that neither of us will - and yet still you argue...so... ..I thought I'd just go along for the ride here. I'm just curious how long you'll keep it up.

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RE: am i alone? - 12/23/2006 6:18:55 PM   
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ORIGINAL: akbarbarian
Verbal abuse is just as serious as physical abuse.


I assure you that is not the case.  I have heard of no case where a person died of verbal abuse.  BTW, any post on a forum does not qualify as "verbal abuse" anyway.  Think about the definition of "verbal."

My concern for the lady was that she seemed (thus her children as well) vulnerable to abuse - the real McCoy, not meaningless cyber stuff, such as your off-the-wall demonization of Juliet.  Or don't you think that your response to Juliet counts? 

MaryT


Death is caused indirectly, self inflicted or inflicted on others if it goes that far which domestic violence doesn't always end in death either and may result in misery which is also quite serious.

Sure my response to Juliet matters.  Notice the lack of swearing or personal attacks, which typify abuse.

Verbal=written.  They translate.  Saying otherwise sounds just interested in winning an arguement, rather than seeking either a community consensus, or a personal truth, fairly and objectively.

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RE: am i alone? - 12/23/2006 6:22:32 PM   
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Sure my response to Juliet matters.  Notice the lack of swearing or personal attacks, which typify abuse.




oooh!! *pointing at Aeon* She swore at me! She said "goddamn!!" I have been abused!!!

*laughing*

oh...just in case no one noticed...we're up to 5 pages now, and none of us has changed our views since .hmmm...let me seee.....

yep...page 1.

juliet

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RE: am i alone? - 12/23/2006 6:25:53 PM   
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Mary i have to interject here and say that people can die from emotional and verbal abuse just as they die from physical abuse.  The problem is that when people commit suicide because they believe that they are worth nothing to noone you can't really say definitively..."They died of verbal abuse". But let me tell you as a person who was verbally and emotionally abused from age 3 up until age 15 that it can most definitely kill. If i hadn't left home then i would have killed myself.


I'm truly sorry to hear that.  I am from an abusive home too, which is why I wound up working in the field.  I didn't say that verbal abuse is not destructive.  I said it is not a cause of death - not ever.  The same surely is not true of physical abuse, which was the original ridiculous comparison - only to be topped by the ludicrous accusation that any post on this forum could be characterized as "verbal" abuse anyway.

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RE: am i alone? - 12/23/2006 6:26:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		But since you brought it up Aeon...perhaps your antagonism regarding this thread is not so much associated with what I said as it is associated with your past and your reactions to what you perceive are similarities between what I've said and what you've experienced?

Straightforward talk isn't always abusive Aeon, and as much as you'd like to, you really have no control over my words. I'd say we're talking about your experiences now - not some no-nonsense words I typed.

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RE: am i alone? - 12/23/2006 6:27:00 PM   
Aeon


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Status: offline 		As a person of Celtic/Druid heritage i understand your distaste for the quotee but it is still a good point. How can we as mere humans who make mistakes every day stand and condemn those beside us for their mistakes? Believe me Sir i do not by any means offer up a shoulder to every lost soul who enters the message boards, but i also do not make it my purpose to lay waste to a sister's spirit when she asks a legitimate question.  If i have nothing VALID to say and only have my own assumptions and subsequent judgements to add i simply choose to keep it to myself and move along.  None of the comments offered up by Miss Thang were arrived at through honest questioning.  She took the original post and came up with about 20 different assumptions and then judged her based on those assumptions.  This is fiction...great for entertaining reading , but not factual or helpful in any way.

And just for the record the people who live their lives by the "If you can't beat 'em...join 'em" way of thinking which You described in the above are the very reason that the "one little candle" way of thinking doesn't work.

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RE: am i alone? - 12/23/2006 6:28:46 PM   
Aeon


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Status: offline 		Read my posts Mary....i have yet to condemn ANYONE...i said juliet's comments were out of line...i have yet to accuse anyone of being a BAD PERSON as juliet was too happy to do.

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RE: am i alone? - 12/23/2006 6:30:35 PM   
Aeon


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Status: offline 		Yup...that's just my style!  lol  Quoting scripture and cursing have never been mutually exclusive...as far as i know anyway...lol.

If i quote Shakespeare must i begin using old English in my every day speech?? 

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RE: am i alone? - 12/23/2006 6:31:51 PM   
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Read my posts Mary....i have yet to condemn ANYONE...i said juliet's comments were out of line...i have yet to accuse anyone of being a BAD PERSON as juliet was too happy to do.


That would be simply your perception Aeon. I didn't say she was a bad person. I said she needed a reality check. I said she needed to get her priorities in line. I said she needed to take care of her children rather than looking for some dominant to do that for her. But I never said she was a bad person.

Like I said...I'd venture that this "bad person" issue is really yours and based more on how you used to feel than on what I said.

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RE: am i alone? - 12/23/2006 6:31:53 PM   
Aeon


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Status: offline 		Silly girl! i didn't swear at you.  i swore at Ron!  LOL

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RE: am i alone? - 12/23/2006 6:33:04 PM   
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ORIGINAL: akbarbarian
Verbal=written.  They translate.  Saying otherwise sounds just interested in winning an arguement, rather than seeking either a community consensus, or a personal truth, fairly and objectively.


I'm not interested in community consensus.  And if you believe such a thing exists here, you have much to learn.

Verbal does not equal written.  It does in fact mean *not* written but oral.  Otherwise it would have to be categorized as "written abuse."  As one truly concerned with r/l abuse, I find that to be a silly concept.

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RE: am i alone? - 12/23/2006 6:33:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yes i agree with you here...i would think that the person doing the "abusing" would have to be someone you actually know and care about!   lol

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RE: am i alone? - 12/23/2006 6:33:13 PM   
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Death that (sic) is caused indirectly, self inflicted or inflicted on others if it goes that far which domestic violence doesn't always end in death either and may result in misery which is also quite serious.


Well, this is all a little abaft the beam, wouldn't you say?   How is it possible that we are judgementally arguing amongst the throngs upon the opine of physical and mental abuse?   i see no sign of this or even any infererence of this in the OP's post, or subsequent postings by same, is it possible that we are so far afield as to be di minimous? 

I am enjoining this battle for two reasons, the  very largest of which, I just grape for a good shit-slinger, but  nobody here as of yet seems to be the type to come unhinged in toto and make it memorable.

The second reason is that I haven't another thing to do, and this; by misceived and unhappy happenstance is about the best thing going right now,
the  praxis of the question being, what the fuck are you guys talking about?


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