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Can a Dom/Master be bought? - 12/26/2006 1:00:24 PM   
queensweetangel


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Status: offline 		I'm not sure that I'm posting this in the right place but I wanted to know the opinion of both Dom/Master and sub/slave.
 
Question to the Doms/Masters: If you added an additional sub/slave who was much wealthier, would you allow her to become the alpha for that simple fact?
 
Queston to the sub/slave: If your Dom/Master added an additional sub/slave and she was wealthy how would you feel if he let her become the alpha over you because of that simple fact?
 
I have had this experience and I felt it to be weak on his part as a Dom/Master. As a result of his decision I was released to make sure she was happy and he was able to keep her for her money.
 
Your opinion and advice is greatly appreciated.
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RE: Can a Dom/Master be bought? - 12/26/2006 1:03:48 PM   
LadyHugs


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Status: offline 		Dear queensweetangel, Ladies and Gentlemen;
 
Your questions posed will apply to the salad bar in varieties of Masters, Mistresses, Dominants, slaves and or submissives out in the world today.
 
Money and or riches do have their enticements however, it is the ethics of the individual which will determine the results.
 
Respectfully submitted for consideration,
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RE: Can a Dom/Master be bought? - 12/26/2006 1:05:39 PM   
MaryT


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quote:

ORIGINAL: queensweetangel

I'm not sure that I'm posting this in the right place but I wanted to know the opinion of both Dom/Master and sub/slave.
 
Question to the Doms/Masters: If you added an additional sub/slave who was much wealthier, would you allow her to become the alpha for that simple fact?
 
Queston to the sub/slave: If your Dom/Master added an additional sub/slave and she was wealthy how would you feel if he let her become the alpha over you because of that simple fact?
 
I have had this experience and I felt it to be weak on his part as a Dom/Master. As a result of his decision I was released to make sure she was happy and he was able to keep her for her money.
 
Your opinion and advice is greatly appreciated.


Sounds like a crummy deal, queensweet.  You are probably better off without him.

I don't know if a dom can be bought, but if the answer is yes, what is the going rate?

Also, can they be rented? 

MaryT

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RE: Can a Dom/Master be bought? - 12/26/2006 1:05:52 PM   
thetammyjo


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Status: offline 		That's sad, queensweetangel.

I'm not sure though that this is a specific BDSM thing or a relationship (or lack thereof) question. I can imagine that folks dump others all the time to get a wealthier, prettier, younger, etc-er what have you. Personally I think it's a sad statement on the people who make that choice.

I'm not sure what advice I can give other than as you go through the mourning process involved in any breakup I hope you can get ot a place where you think of it as no real loss on your side of things.

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RE: Can a Dom/Master be bought? - 12/26/2006 1:08:52 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MaryT

quote:

ORIGINAL: queensweetangel

I'm not sure that I'm posting this in the right place but I wanted to know the opinion of both Dom/Master and sub/slave.
 
Question to the Doms/Masters: If you added an additional sub/slave who was much wealthier, would you allow her to become the alpha for that simple fact?
 
Queston to the sub/slave: If your Dom/Master added an additional sub/slave and she was wealthy how would you feel if he let her become the alpha over you because of that simple fact?
 
I have had this experience and I felt it to be weak on his part as a Dom/Master. As a result of his decision I was released to make sure she was happy and he was able to keep her for her money.
 
Your opinion and advice is greatly appreciated.


Sounds like a crummy deal, queensweet.  You are probably better off without him.

I don't know if a dom can be bought, but if the answer is yes, what is the going rate?

Also, can they be rented? 
MaryT

Look I want to rent with an option to buy.
Seriously, most LTR relationships are based on
what the parties involved deem valuable.


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RE: Can a Dom/Master be bought? - 12/26/2006 1:09:31 PM   
onestandingstill


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From what you wrote it seems like your self professed Dom was broke and the sub was in charge as she had money.
To me this left him not a Dom at all, but a pathetic person who let money interfere with the real important stuff he shold have been considering as a Dom.

I'd say thank your lucky stars you found out how weak he was now and not ten years from now.
Sorry for your treatment by him & good luck in your future.

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RE: Can a Dom/Master be bought? - 12/26/2006 1:14:24 PM   
masterfbs


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Status: offline 		not just because of money that makes you a whore a true Dom is never a whore.

Renting one is being a pro dom who trains for a price is a different story its cold and impersonal jsut as with a pro domme

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RE: Can a Dom/Master be bought? - 12/26/2006 1:16:05 PM   
mymasterssub69


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quote:

ORIGINAL: queensweetangel

I'm not sure that I'm posting this in the right place but I wanted to know the opinion of both Dom/Master and sub/slave.
 
Question to the Doms/Masters: If you added an additional sub/slave who was much wealthier, would you allow her to become the alpha for that simple fact?
 
Queston to the sub/slave: If your Dom/Master added an additional sub/slave and she was wealthy how would you feel if he let her become the alpha over you because of that simple fact?
 
I have had this experience and I felt it to be weak on his part as a Dom/Master. As a result of his decision I was released to make sure she was happy and he was able to keep her for her money.
 
Your opinion and advice is greatly appreciated.


so happy my Daddy is a one daughter type of man.

no amount of money could buy His love or time. He doesn't deal with weak submissives who use money as their strong point.


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RE: Can a Dom/Master be bought? - 12/26/2006 1:17:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		Whilst having never been involved in a relationship of more than 2, when it has been discussed in the past, the alpha sub would always be the one that I was already with. Sort of a first come first served, promotion based purely on "time in service"

Whilst money is nice to have, a good personal relationship is much more important to me personally. If I had to give up my job here, move to the other end of the country and count boxes in a warehouse to be with an ideal partner I wouldnt think twice.

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RE: Can a Dom/Master be bought? - 12/26/2006 1:22:02 PM   
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ORIGINAL: queensweetangel
Question to the Doms/Masters: If you added an additional sub/slave who was much wealthier, would you allow her to become the alpha for that simple fact?

Not for that simple fact no.
 
But I see nothing wrong with using a slave for their welath.  What use is there to owning a slave if they cannot add to the value of the relationship?  Whether it's for their practical skills, some intrinsic emotional value, or their material possessions- all should be taken into account when deciding to gain property.
 
This doesn't equate to the property buying the master however.
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Queston to the sub/slave: If your Dom/Master added an additional sub/slave and she was wealthy how would you feel if he let her become the alpha over you because of that simple fact?

I'd feel he was stupid and seriously have to question the situation.  Having more material goods certainly would be a good thing for the "family" and I'd enjoy the prosperity and widsom of a master who would make a good choice like that, but for a master to assume that more wealth somehow meant immediate social favor and responsibility would be really stupid.
 
Choosing a slave for what they can provide to you is smart and necessary.  I'd hope all slaves and masters chose their relationships because it most served them and their fulfillment.  All other things being equal, yes I'd prefer a relationship in which more material goods were available.

However, to seek someone SOLELY because of their current material worth, is a case of highest bigger, and to give that someone a particular social status due solely to current material worth is really pointless.

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RE: Can a Dom/Master be bought? - 12/26/2006 1:22:32 PM   
diamonddreamlove


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Status: offline 		Just was reading a book that addressed basically this type of scenerio.  The author stated that this kind of thing should not occur but we all know it does.  The Dom in question should be ashamed of himself and the rich sub should be ware that there will always be someone richer, cuter and overall more attractive to a Dom like this.  My Master will not accept even a loan from me.  He believes that would upset our relationship and put Him in a one down position which lol He will not allow to happen. The rich sub is now running that relationship, topping from the bank position.  Hope you find a new Dom that has more ethics than this one did.  Keep in mind this is my opinion only and is based solely on your given information.

diamond

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RE: Can a Dom/Master be bought? - 12/26/2006 1:24:01 PM   
LuckyAlbatross


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ORIGINAL: masterfbs
not just because of money that makes you a whore a true Dom is never a whore.

Uh why not?  Being a whore has nothing to do with being a dominant- although I do see a possibility of being both a whore and a dom to the same person.

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Renting one is being a pro dom who trains for a price is a different story its cold and impersonal jsut as with a pro domme

Actually sessions with both whores and pro's can be quite warm and personal.

< Message edited by LuckyAlbatross -- 12/26/2006 1:26:40 PM >

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RE: Can a Dom/Master be bought? - 12/26/2006 1:46:40 PM   
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Oh my  what a disgusting thread, to place material possession parmount and the deciding factor of a or any relationship.  Definately does show the value some place in the worth of a person.  No damn wonder I got rid of all my material possessions besides my means of communication and clothes on my back.  And no damn wonder I walked away from more than 4 relationships leaving all material possessions behind.  *thinks to self  --- While I go off to mend my heart that you so blantantly disregarded, you can sit and wonder how you can find care and develop sinergy from your particle board and imitation leather that you find so much use fusing about.  I got better things to do with my time than argue over who owns the phk'n chair.*

How shallow can people be, there was a time when all this material possession was redundant including money, money/currency was just an easier way to have a form of bartering (so we wouldn't have to roll them square wheeled wheels down to the butcher yanno).

I find this thread disgusting but at the same time enlightening, I am sorry for the redundancy this so call Dominant placed on you and hope you will find better.

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RE: Can a Dom/Master be bought? - 12/26/2006 2:01:02 PM   
blmtrsne


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RE: Can a Dom/Master be bought? - 12/26/2006 2:05:08 PM   
MaryT


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Seriously, most LTR relationships are based on
what the parties involved deem valuable.
 

Sociology (admittedly my least favorite subject) bears this out.  We see it all the time:  "Man leaves wife for younger woman" is a common theme.  A recent thread brought up the subject of sudden success leading to a "trophy wife."  Same deal.

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RE: Can a Dom/Master be bought? - 12/26/2006 2:05:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		To me "wealth" has no part of the value of a submissive.  Libby and I are quite comfortable and chose those we wish to play with regularly on factors like compatability rather than bank account

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RE: Can a Dom/Master be bought? - 12/26/2006 2:06:23 PM   
LadyEllen


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quote:

ORIGINAL: queensweetangel
Question to the Doms/Masters: If you added an additional sub/slave who was much wealthier, would you allow her to become the alpha for that simple fact?
 
Queston to the sub/slave: If your Dom/Master added an additional sub/slave and she was wealthy how would you feel if he let her become the alpha over you because of that simple fact?
 


If I were with the right person for me, someone with whom I had a loving relationship then I just cant see any valid reason why I'd need or even want someone else, or why they should. To me it says that the relationship is wrong, even though I realise not everyone thinks like me and there are successful poly arrangements going on out there.

To make such an addition purely on grounds of wealth - what that says to me, is that the person making that choice must be shallow. And to turn that addition into a replacement on the same grounds, even more shallow.

It will come across as a series of platitudes perhaps, but honestly, I would sooner have love than money. Money does not bring happiness - it may reduce misery, but it doesnt bring happiness. And the love of money, well we all know the quotation I'm sure. One cannot live on love either of course, so money is always a consideration, but better to have enough and have love, than to have overmuch and no love. And money does not buy love and neither can it replace love.

The problem we as people have I guess, is that whilst money can be reckoned up, and equated to physical possessions, love cannot. Love has no exchange rate, no material value by which we can measure it. Too often it is only when we have no love, that we realise it is priceless. Your ex is maybe learning this now.

So QSA, I believe that even with the deep hurt you have suffered from this episode, you have emerged with all the honour, and I hope you have managed to recover all the wealth you need, because you retained the ability to love and be loved for who you are, not what you have.

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RE: Can a Dom/Master be bought? - 12/26/2006 2:09:53 PM   
MaryT


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ORIGINAL: blmtrsne

If someone wanted to be my slave and I needed one, he wouldn't need to try to advance any requests. I'm not a hooker. He submits with all his body, his belongings, his soul or he stays out of my life.


Well, whoever deemed my body and soul as not enough, would be too little for me (philosophically, spiritually, morally and in matters of fine taste). 

MaryT

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RE: Can a Dom/Master be bought? - 12/26/2006 2:18:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'd like to play the devil's advocate here, since we don't know for sure if this Dom picked this slave soley for the wealth factor or if there was other intrinsic factors as well that he was attracted to.  The Dom isn't here to defend himself.  Just because a slave is rich doesn't mean she's automatically going to be topping from the bottom either.  Money doesn't always mean power. It depends upon how it is used, misused, or what the Dom plans to do with it. To automatically assume the Dom hasn't a clue how to use money may not be true either.  Again, he's not around to defend himself.  He may be quite the investor for all we know.

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RE: Can a Dom/Master be bought? - 12/26/2006 2:25:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm not getting a distinction in this thrad over whether people feel it's wrong/disgusting to include material possessions as a factor in the decision to make them their property, or whether they feel it's wrong/disgusting to make it the primary motivation to owning someone?

I mean, do we think it's wrong when a man chooses a slave and expects her to be his sole source of sexual interaction?

Do we think it's wrong when a woman chooses a slave solely to clean their house on a regular basis with no sexual interaction? 

All slaves provide- the question is WHAT do they provide and how much use/value/worth is it to their owner?  As long as everyone is in agreement with the situation, why is it suddenly a problem when the slave becomes the sole source of financial security, but not when the slave is the only source of sexual security?

The problem with the OP of course is that he took on a slave for their financial support and somehow translated it into social status and jeopardized the other relationships already existing.

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