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missturbation -> RE: Oh you luck Americans!! (1/13/2007 5:15:21 AM)

As for the beckhams. What an embarrassment those two are.
I'm going to have to disagree with you there. Whilst they get right on my tits with their ever so perfect lives they do a lot for charity and that is never a waste.




Dtesmoac -> RE: Oh you luck Americans!! (1/13/2007 5:26:45 AM)

What do you think about the chances of it being more regional so that it grows to a similar status as Ice Hockey has in some states, with perhaps California and the Southern states able to finance professional teams.





missturbation -> RE: Oh you luck Americans!! (1/13/2007 5:30:55 AM)

It's not fecking soccer its football. God !!!!! [:D]




caitlyn -> RE: Oh you luck Americans!! (1/13/2007 5:44:35 AM)

Over a very long haul, maybe ... but doubtful.
 
The problem here (and this isn't meant to be a slam on soccer), is that the sport doesn't draw even close to our best athletes. Most top athletes here see sports as a way to pay for college, and I don't think there are very many schools that offer scholarships for men's soccer. Without top athletes, the league will never be more than a niche league, like it is now.




Dtesmoac -> RE: Oh you luck Americans!! (1/13/2007 5:51:00 AM)

I hadn't thought of the college finance aspect.




caitlyn -> RE: Oh you luck Americans!! (1/13/2007 5:54:58 AM)

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ORIGINAL: missturbation
It's not fecking soccer its football. God !!!!! [:D]


Can we compromise and call it "footy?" 




Dtesmoac -> RE: Oh you luck Americans!! (1/13/2007 5:57:45 AM)

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ORIGINAL: caitlyn

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ORIGINAL: missturbation
It's not fecking soccer its football. God !!!!! [:D]


Can we compromise and call it "footy?" 


No chance caitlyn of compromise on this one Caitlyn. And Miss - Rugby Football is true Football, its just the sissy kids at them common schools wots play with a round ball...........




missturbation -> RE: Oh you luck Americans!! (1/13/2007 6:00:51 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Dtesmoac

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ORIGINAL: caitlyn

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ORIGINAL: missturbation
It's not fecking soccer its football. God !!!!! [:D]


Can we compromise and call it "footy?" 


No chance caitlyn of compromise on this one Caitlyn. And Miss - Rugby Football is true Football, its just the sissy kids at them common schools wots play with a round ball...........


You watched british football recently - they aint no sissies.
American football are the sissys.
Rugby players over here are the real men though.
Wtf is rugby football?




missturbation -> RE: Oh you luck Americans!! (1/13/2007 6:02:00 AM)

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ORIGINAL: caitlyn

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ORIGINAL: missturbation
It's not fecking soccer its football. God !!!!! [:D]


Can we compromise and call it "footy?" 


You can lol - soccer is a rare used term for football nowadays - most of the world refers to football not soccer




Dtesmoac -> RE: Oh you luck Americans!! (1/13/2007 6:07:38 AM)

You watched british football recently - they aint no sissies. (I watched many of the world cup matches in full england shirt surrounded by Yanks. I also watch some of the Premier league matches - acting is a vital component of all games, the ability to be poleaxed by a shirt tug and dive over blades of grass in the penalty area ......
American football are the sissys. Agree with you there ........
Rugby players over here are the real men though. deffinitely the superior sport to watch (and play until you get to old / small / slow)
Wtf is rugby football? Check the porper name of Rugby and it is Rugby Football - both Union and League, and there are some arguments that the earliest forms of "Football" bore more relation to Ruby than "Soccer" and to wind up the sissy pig skin kickers rugy player taunt them with the fact that football is actually Rugby. Of course the FA (Football Association) differs on this point with the RFU (Rugby Football Union)

I think you are under the misaprhension that I am American.....I'm just living here for a while.




missturbation -> RE: Oh you luck Americans!! (1/13/2007 6:13:24 AM)

No ive gathered ur a brit which is why i wondered what rugby football was. If id thought u were american i would have just presumed it was another name for another game u had made up [:D]




DomKen -> RE: Oh you luck Americans!! (1/13/2007 6:16:29 AM)

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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

You need to google 'Chicago Cubs' before you make such a claim again.



No I don't. If you've a point to make you need to make it. I'll stand corrected if/where persuaded otherwise.

Among the most loyal fans anywhere are those of the Cubs. The Cubs have not won a championship since 1908 and have not even been to the championship since 1945. Still virtually every home game is a sell out and the team is closely followed such that an off season meet the players event draws thousands.

Since Chicago is most definitely in the US it shows pretty clearly that:
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it's about loyalty to your team and your town/city. Win, lose or draw we go back next week because it has substance, it means something. You need glory, excitement, winning........we don't need that, we take pride in being loyal through whatever is thrown at us. Different national charactertistics.

Isn't accurate.




caitlyn -> RE: Oh you luck Americans!! (1/13/2007 6:19:14 AM)

You would think Rugby players would come over here to play American football, since the pay is x10, and the Americans are all sissys. [;)]




missturbation -> RE: Oh you luck Americans!! (1/13/2007 6:22:02 AM)

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ORIGINAL: caitlyn

You would think Rugby players would come over here to play American football, since the pay is x10, and the Americans are all sissys. [;)]


Yep but our rugby players are thick, comes from all those knocks to the head [:D]




NorthernGent -> RE: Oh you luck Americans!! (1/13/2007 6:32:08 AM)

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

You need to google 'Chicago Cubs' before you make such a claim again.



No I don't. If you've a point to make you need to make it. I'll stand corrected if/where persuaded otherwise.

Among the most loyal fans anywhere are those of the Cubs. The Cubs have not won a championship since 1908 and have not even been to the championship since 1945. Still virtually every home game is a sell out and the team is closely followed such that an off season meet the players event draws thousands.

Since Chicago is most definitely in the US it shows pretty clearly that:
quote:

it's about loyalty to your team and your town/city. Win, lose or draw we go back next week because it has substance, it means something. You need glory, excitement, winning........we don't need that, we take pride in being loyal through whatever is thrown at us. Different national charactertistics.

Isn't accurate.


Point taken. Sounds like my football team - languishing in the second division, last won the league in 1936, have won one cup since then - in an area of high unemployment and obviously Sunderland is a lot smaller than Chicago and the surrounding catchment area and we still get 40,000 in for a home game and take thousands to away games around the country.

As said though, I take your point - a bit quick off the mark with the comments.




seeksfemslave -> RE: Oh you luck Americans!! (1/13/2007 8:27:40 AM)

an area of high unemployment and obviously Sunderland is a lot smaller than Chicago and the surrounding catchment area and we still get 40,000 in for a home game and take thousands to away games around the country.


NG there is only one possible conclusion that can be drawn from that...welfare payments are too generous




missturbation -> RE: Oh you luck Americans!! (1/13/2007 8:39:14 AM)

welfare payments are too generous

Bull shit and thats all i have to say about that [:@]




NorthernGent -> RE: Oh you luck Americans!! (1/13/2007 8:59:56 AM)

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ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave

an area of high unemployment and obviously Sunderland is a lot smaller than Chicago and the surrounding catchment area and we still get 40,000 in for a home game and take thousands to away games around the country.


NG there is only one possible conclusion that can be drawn from that...welfare payments are too generous


Great. Wise old owl eh. The bloke who coined that phrase was missing a trick somewhere.






seeksfemslave -> RE: Oh you luck Americans!! (1/13/2007 10:31:32 AM)

OK then Welfare is not too generous but those who support Sunderland are a thievin' lot and thats how they make their money !!!

You have admitted NG that they dont get from employment.




mgdartist -> RE: Oh you luck Americans!! (1/13/2007 10:44:34 AM)

My my, what a fever pitch this dissention has risen to.
Football vs Futbol ..as if.
American Football is utterly dependant on Futbol (soccer) Until reading this thread I assumed it was similar to the minor league in baseball, for NFL place kickers.

Say what you will about the glitz and glam of our #1 televised sport, you'll not dilute the beauty and grace of it's defining moment, that being an innovation known as the forward pass, resulting in what is likely the most breathtaking representation of human physicality and agility, another innovation called slow-mo, ever cast into our living rooms. A wide reciever's ascent, bobbling grasp, reception and descent into the end zone, bearing a fruitful six points, and all the while, he has no idea of what peril that descent will bring, or who awaits him with bitter acrimony below. It is a spectacle which I have witnessed countless times, and never ceases to amaze and enthrall, and beyond all the accusations of cowardice and wimpyness via pads and helmetry, the "play" represents what football is, and takes bravery, concentration, agility and skill few white men can achieve. He is the modern day knight in shining armor. Belittling him can only make you seem foolish, if not blind, and even bringing futbol into any comparative equation will establish your mindset as "easily entertained".

MGD





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