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RE: Hilary Clinton We are Doomed - 1/21/2007 8:00:11 AM   
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Why rely on primary sources when you use secondary and tertiary ones instead?

Its classic American politics here, otherwise known as TAG and DEMONIZE.

One thing is very, very true about Hillarly Clinton, she brings this out in the American voting public more than any other candidate. I just don't understand it. I saw one small example of it here in my home town when my Tennis club's constituents lead a rally to insure a woman friend of mine would not ascend to be President of the Board.

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RE: Hilary Clinton We are Doomed - 1/21/2007 8:46:08 AM   
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I'm sure that it will be  honed enough to  offset the mistakes we see happening with it.
 
In Arizona, you STILL wait hours in the emergency rooms.  I had a hot gall bladder once..waited 4 hours in one and was transferred to another hospital were I waited for another 8 hours  and that was after being assured that "they are expecting you and they will take you right in".  I was taken into 'emergency' surgery  after developing pancreatitis during this wait of 12 hours. 
 
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RE: Hilary Clinton We are Doomed - 1/21/2007 11:37:13 AM   
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RE: Hilary Clinton We are Doomed - 1/21/2007 11:39:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		Lotus: You should have flown to the UK, got yourself knocked down by a number 14 Bus, looking Right when you should have been looking Left, then they would have sorted your Pancreas out straight after they had amputated any mangled bits.

Will that be of any  help for the future?
You're welcome.

Forgot to include that all treatment would definately be free.

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RE: Hilary Clinton We are Doomed - 1/21/2007 2:23:17 PM   
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Two points:

With regard to a Muslim Presidential candidate, dont forget that in theory at least Islamic values take precedence over ALL things for devout Muslims.


One point :

As long as I don't have to repeatedly hear about ''endless war'' and a six-foot-six dude with dirty pajamas, a beard and laptop, hiding in a cave somewhere in Pakistan, we could elect a cockroach as our next President and it would be alright with me.



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RE: Hilary Clinton We are Doomed - 1/23/2007 8:46:38 AM   
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Agree with many that Obama doesn't have the time in/experience. As far as Clinton goes..she's a snake in the grass. As far as voting for Any female for this country? Now is not the time. Sorry but when it comes to dealing with countrys that view women like the Taliban does..any female would be a laughing stock, and anything out of her mouth they would be looking at the nearest man in her party to speak soon so they could get on with business. A female at this time would give a whole new meaning to the term "puppet president", and as is the case..these types of mentalitys are the type of countrys we are dealing with.

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RE: Hilary Clinton We are Doomed - 1/23/2007 8:51:18 AM   
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Hey, everybody has something good about them - she can't be all bad ;-)

Oh yes, taking the conversation down yet another level :-D

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RE: Hilary Clinton We are Doomed - 1/23/2007 8:54:27 AM   
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I bet she's great in the sack!!
If thats the path were going..can't be that great or her other half wouldn't need to resort to satisfaction from under the oval office desk. :)

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RE: Hilary Clinton We are Doomed - 1/23/2007 8:57:20 AM   
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RE: Hilary Clinton We are Doomed - 1/23/2007 9:23:16 AM   
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ORIGINAL: starshineowned

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I bet she's great in the sack!!
If thats the path were going..can't be that great or her other half wouldn't need to resort to satisfaction from under the oval office desk. :)

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RE: Hilary Clinton We are Doomed - 1/23/2007 9:58:39 AM   
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RE: Hilary Clinton We are Doomed - 1/23/2007 10:50:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		The idea of Bill hosting the traditional "First Lady" events would almost be worth the tradgedy of a Hillary Presidency. LOL

Picture Bill Serving tea to The next British PMs wife.

OOOOOOPPPPPPPPSSSSS now wait a minute would foriegn dignitaries trust Bill in a room with their wives??????????????

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RE: Hilary Clinton We are Doomed - 1/23/2007 11:01:08 AM   
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The idea of Bill hosting the traditional "First Lady" events would almost be worth the tradgedy of a Hillary Presidency. LOL

Picture Bill Serving tea to The next British PMs wife.

OOOOOOPPPPPPPPSSSSS now wait a minute would foriegn dignitaries trust Bill in a room with their wives??????????????


and would he offer her a cigar?  :-D

Excuse me, there appears to be something on your dress

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RE: Hilary Clinton We are Doomed - 1/23/2007 11:06:10 AM   
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No Mr ambasador Bill has promised he did not have sex with your wife, assuming you defines sex the same way Bill does. LOL

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RE: Hilary Clinton We are Doomed - 1/23/2007 1:59:35 PM   
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.......As far as Clinton goes..she's a snake in the grass. As far as voting for Any female for this country? Now is not the time. Sorry but when it comes to dealing with countrys that view women like the Taliban does..any female would be a laughing stock..........


What a shocking and defeatist argument for a woman to make. !!!
A strong willed Female leader ought to show those Taliban what a bunch of primitive Gorillas they are.
Thats an insult to Gorillas.

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RE: Hilary Clinton We are Doomed - 1/23/2007 2:29:35 PM   
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ORIGINAL: starshineowned
As far as voting for Any female for this country? Now is not the time. Sorry but when it comes to dealing with countrys that view women like the Taliban does..any female would be a laughing stock, and anything out of her mouth they would be looking at the nearest man in her party to speak soon so they could get on with business.


As fellow Texans, we can hopefully, respectfully agree to not agree on this one.
 
A superpower will never be liked. Oh, they can try. If we took our entire GNP and split it up among all the countries on Earth, someone would see nefarious motive in it, and start bitching. (my guess is meatcleaver )
 
We could elect a cardboard cutout of Cartman from Southpark, and still get about the same due we would get if we elected the best leader on Earth ... namely, we would be feared because we are powerful.

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RE: Hilary Clinton We are Doomed - 1/23/2007 7:20:05 PM   
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The crisis of emergency rooms being flooded with people  because they don't have health insurance or the money to pay a doctor upfront. Many of these people will never be able to pay the hospital bill either. The result........ruined credit just because they were ill and needed medical attention.


They do have insurance.

They dont have an insurance policy.  The hospital bills the government at 3x what insurance would pay.

The Government ponies up the money from money you and I pay in taxes.

People who think we actually have uninsured people in this country are delusional.  What we dont have
is a governmental agency able to negotiate for reasonable health costs with big Medical and big Pharma.

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RE: Hilary Clinton We are Doomed - 1/23/2007 7:35:50 PM   
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RE: Hilary Clinton We are Doomed - 1/23/2007 7:40:25 PM   
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ORIGINAL: UtopianRanger


quote:


Two points:

With regard to a Muslim Presidential candidate, dont forget that in theory at least Islamic values take precedence over ALL things for devout Muslims.


One point :

As long as I don't have to repeatedly hear about ''endless war'' and a six-foot-six dude with dirty pajamas, a beard and laptop, hiding in a cave somewhere in Pakistan, we could elect a cockroach as our next President and it would be alright with me.



- R




I tend to think a cockroach would do a better job.

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RE: Hilary Clinton We are Doomed - 1/23/2007 7:42:35 PM   
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ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave

Edited to bring out the "best" bit.....
quote:

ORIGINAL: starshineowned
.......As far as Clinton goes..she's a snake in the grass. As far as voting for Any female for this country? Now is not the time. Sorry but when it comes to dealing with countrys that view women like the Taliban does..any female would be a laughing stock..........


What a shocking and defeatist argument for a woman to make. !!!
A strong willed Female leader ought to show those Taliban what a bunch of primitive Gorillas they are.
Thats an insult to Gorillas.



On a positive note, how do you think Bill will react to the idea that Hillary is able to have a stable of "interns" to help her with her, umm, "duties."

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