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RE: Hilary Clinton We are Doomed - 1/20/2007 7:46:25 PM   
LeMis


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Hey, wasn't hillary already president once?    Oooops, oh wait, Bill was the president at the time but it sure felt like she was, LOL!!!
My bad, my mistake. 



Are you thinking of Billary?

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RE: Hilary Clinton We are Doomed - 1/20/2007 8:15:17 PM   
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RE: Hilary Clinton We are Doomed - 1/20/2007 8:21:53 PM   
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I'd much rather Hillary be elected than Obama, who was raised by Islams.


Muslims:  Boogey men of the new millenia.

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RE: Hilary Clinton We are Doomed - 1/20/2007 8:49:52 PM   
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RE: Hilary Clinton We are Doomed - 1/20/2007 8:51:20 PM   
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I'd much rather Hillary be elected than Obama, who was raised by Islams.


hahahaha.  I was wondering when that would come up.  I read about that days ago on Digg.  It was featured on Fox News.  He was not exactly raised by Islams though..  That is a tiny bit of a stretch..  Still..   Close enough.

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RE: Hilary Clinton We are Doomed - 1/20/2007 8:56:24 PM   
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I'd much rather Hillary be elected than Obama, who was raised by Islams.


Obama was raised by muslims?  got my vote!

better than another illuminati puppet any day


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RE: Hilary Clinton We are Doomed - 1/20/2007 8:57:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		If his father is muslim and his stepfather is muslim, how is it a stretch to say that he was raised by muslims? Was he taken from his mother and raised in foster care?

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RE: Hilary Clinton We are Doomed - 1/20/2007 9:08:08 PM   
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If his father is muslim and his stepfather is muslim, how is it a stretch to say that he was raised by muslims? Was he taken from his mother and raised in foster care?



       I think his mother is/was an atheist.  He is a member of the United Church of Christ (NOT to be confused with the Church of Christ, if you look them up).

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RE: Hilary Clinton We are Doomed - 1/20/2007 9:11:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		Both his biological father and stepfather were muslims, but both were professed atheists.  Neither one were Islamic.

Obama attended a muslim school for two years because they could not afford a regular school, after which he went to Catholic school.

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RE: Hilary Clinton We are Doomed - 1/20/2007 9:13:30 PM   
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I'd much rather Hillary be elected than Obama, who was raised by Islams.


Obama was raised by muslims?  got my vote!

better than another illuminati puppet any day




Why on earth would you want a president raised by islams? While terrorism is impossible to defeat because it's too widespread, I think the fact that he was raised by muslims shows that he had an entirely different reason for being against the war. Islams are not peaceful. Look how people are treated in islamic countries. Here's an informative link about islam. http://www.middleastwomen.org/html/sharia.htm

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RE: Hilary Clinton We are Doomed - 1/20/2007 9:18:13 PM   
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RE: Hilary Clinton We are Doomed - 1/20/2007 9:20:23 PM   
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Both his biological father and stepfather were muslims, but both were professed atheists.  Neither one were Islamic.

Obama attended a muslim school for two years because they could not afford a regular school, after which he went to Catholic school.


I think it's awefully strange that his mother married not one, but two muslim men. Even if they weren't islam, they lived in an islamic culture. The culture someone is raised in is going to affect their personality and values.

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RE: Hilary Clinton We are Doomed - 1/20/2007 9:20:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		First we have to get over the hatemongering...
The extremists of the Islamic faith that are responsible for the terrorists attacks are not the same as ALL Islamic or Muslim people.

That is like saying that ALL Catholics are the same as those that are responsible for the INQUISITION, but even at the time of the Inquisition there where many Catholics that were fighting against what was going on and many that were dying because of it.

It is also like saying that ALL Republicans are like BUSH.. some people think all Americans are like the president, but we know better.

I have listened to Obama give several speaches, I have watched the man, and I can say I do not believe he is in anyway connected with the extremist groups. I am not certain he is Muslim or Islamic, I do not know what his faith is, honestly I do not care. I will not support hate-mongering of anyone because of their faith or association to terrorism simply because of faith or nationality. We do not say all Iraqi people deserve to die because of Saddam Hussein, nor are they all bad people. Nor should we have any prejudice towards anyone because of race, creed, color, sexual preference or lifestyle, age, or gender, and that is what is driving me angry about our own country at this time is it is becoming permissible again to be prejudiced.

Prejudice is an anathema and should be irradicated.

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RE: Hilary Clinton We are Doomed - 1/20/2007 9:26:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		This is the same type of logic used against  Kennedy because he was Catholic. 

There are people in this country that are treated shabbily, as well.  The argument can be made that some of this poor treatment is due to cultural values in the way the people were raised, or, what they believe.  Since some of these people manage to get a lot of press/attention--guess what--they're what a lot of the world think of when the word 'American' is said.

His religion, or lack thereof, shouldn't be a consideration unless he is a fanatic about it to the point where he cannot make an objective decision.

Not to be a pedantic nit, but if he was a follower of Islam, he would be described as Islamic or Muslim, not as an Islam.  Islam is a religion, not a direct noun. :D

Most Muslims aren't terrorists waiting to blow up our buildings, or, kill our soldiers.  Most Christians aren't hate-mongering fundamentalists spouting racist, divisive, homophobic, or, misogynistic tripe.  The types that are are generally fanatics who make the most noise and get the most press.

Barack Obama has shown that he can see both sides of an issue, and has the skills to work as a mediator and get the sides to meet to get things done.  That being said, I don't like the idea of him being President quite yet because I don't feel he has enough national experience.  Some would say that's a point in his favor, but I personally would prefer a bit more experience on the national stage.

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Why on earth would you want a president raised by islams? While terrorism is impossible to defeat because it's too widespread, I think the fact that he was raised by muslims shows that he had an entirely different reason for being against the war. Islams are not peaceful. Look how people are treated in islamic countries. Here's an informative link about islam. http://www.middleastwomen.org/html/sharia.htm

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RE: Hilary Clinton We are Doomed - 1/20/2007 9:33:49 PM   
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This is a long thread, but there are examples  of how  the Quran talks about vengence against those from other religions. I'm not prejudiced against muslim women. In fact, I feel sorry for them.

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RE: Hilary Clinton We are Doomed - 1/20/2007 9:40:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		Even as a registered Republican *gasp*, I'm not likely to vote for the next Republican candidate and was quite glad to see the shift in the power structure in the last election.

As a woman, I would love to see a female president, as we are woefully behind in that arena, and I'd like to see the difference in persepctive.

That being said, Hillary isn't going to be it, I don't think.  She is too polarizing a candidate to be successful.  Granted, she hasn't driven off a bridge, or, anything similar, but I don't think she has a chance of winning if she gets the nod.

The Dems are seriously in jeopardy of losing their plum position to take the White House.

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RE: Hilary Clinton We are Doomed - 1/20/2007 9:41:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm definitely in favor of a female President and will vote for HRC if she is the candidate but she is probably too outspoken to win.  Personally, I also think the election process for the NEXT President starts way too early.  I'm still trying to figure out a way to assasinate the current one.  j/k  :-)

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RE: Hilary Clinton We are Doomed - 1/20/2007 9:42:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		Anyway, back to Hillary Clinton.........she wants to do something about the healthcare crisis in the United States. I'd love to have free healthcare like they do in Canada and England.

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RE: Hilary Clinton We are Doomed - 1/20/2007 9:46:01 PM   
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Anyway, back to Hillary Clinton.........she wants to do something about the healthcare crisis in the United States. I'd love to have free healthcare like they do in Canada and England.


um what crisis?


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RE: Hilary Clinton We are Doomed - 1/20/2007 9:48:55 PM   
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Personally I see nothing wrong with a muslim President.  Better than funding a Tampax scandal.  *evil grin*

Maybe I will run for President.  I will give big tax breaks to breweries


damn i might have to vote for ya


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