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RE: D/s versus BDSM - 1/28/2007 5:36:12 PM   
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I have always thought segal was hot as hell.


Sure, until he went to New Orleans and actually helped out the local authorities there!  LOL

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RE: D/s versus BDSM - 1/28/2007 5:38:09 PM   
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*sits quietly while trying to pick off her Dry Clean Only label*

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RE: D/s versus BDSM - 1/28/2007 5:40:10 PM   
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*sits quietly while trying to pick off her Dry Clean Only label*


So is like, ummmm, your vestiment there, ummmm, you know, the thing you wear?  Ummm, does that mean that technically it is a submissive to the dry cleaners?  Ummmmm, I really need help here.  I'm confused.

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RE: D/s versus BDSM - 1/28/2007 5:42:10 PM   
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Well I dunno what else to do if I can't have a label!

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RE: D/s versus BDSM - 1/28/2007 5:45:44 PM   
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I will repeat myself again:

Bondage is what the financial institutions have done to us.
Domination is what our Government does to us.
Sadistic is what most of the world feels towards the U.S.
Masochistic is us allowing all of our jobs to go overseas.

Nuff said?

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RE: D/s versus BDSM - 1/28/2007 5:48:04 PM   
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Umm..
Isn't D/s without any BDSM (discipline, ect), just the plain old fashioned dynamic?
Why bother to consider it dominance and submission if you aren't adding any other portion of bdsm?
Why can't some nilla's be ok just being themselves?  There isn't a thing wrong with wanting to take a back seat to your mates decision.  AND people have been doing it for years, without needing to label it.
Kyst

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RE: D/s versus BDSM - 1/28/2007 6:28:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

Uhm, that was sarcasm....I thought the acronmyn ASS was a dead giveaway but I guess not.


I didn't catch it. I apologize Michael.

juliet

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RE: D/s versus BDSM - 1/28/2007 9:42:10 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Missokyst

Umm..
Isn't D/s without any BDSM (discipline, ect), just the plain old fashioned dynamic?
Why bother to consider it dominance and submission if you aren't adding any other portion of bdsm?
Why can't some nilla's be ok just being themselves?  There isn't a thing wrong with wanting to take a back seat to your mates decision.  AND people have been doing it for years, without needing to label it.
Kyst


That is just it.  It exists in most forms that is what validates us.  We do not need to be validated but we need a place to stand to talk to the people that would witch hunt us....

I am totally sickened by those who would try to create a division in something they profess to believe in.  Unfortunately most don't belong to One Higher Being and they refuse to be categorized as if this website and the sister website existed for nothing.....I tell you it sickens me.

Everyone jokes, everyone plays games with the N00Bs, everyone does not give the time of day to someone who is asking, like "please replenish the ranks", FUCK YOU, WHAT DO YOU KNOW!????.

I am getting sick of this entire fascade.  No one is asking the very plaintiffs of the most philisophical regions of the mind.  But yet no one wants to tell anyone what they actually think unless they are most extrapolated from the positive and isolated from the negative.

YOU ALL SUCK YOU MUTHAf**********erS.,

Step up before I really lose my nuts and chastise you all..... And I will until I am banned.

Obey1

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RE: D/s versus BDSM - 1/28/2007 10:35:31 PM   
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I am totally sickened by those who would try to create a division in something they profess to believe in.  Unfortunately most don't belong to One Higher Being and they refuse to be categorized as if this website and the sister website existed for nothing.....I tell you it sickens me.

Everyone jokes, everyone plays games with the N00Bs, everyone does not give the time of day to someone who is asking, like "please replenish the ranks", FUCK YOU, WHAT DO YOU KNOW!????.

I am getting sick of this entire fascade.  No one is asking the very plaintiffs of the most philisophical regions of the mind.  But yet no one wants to tell anyone what they actually think unless they are most extrapolated from the positive and isolated from the negative.

YOU ALL SUCK YOU MUTHAf**********erS.,

Step up before I really lose my nuts and chastise you all..... And I will until I am banned.

Obey1


I do not get what you are upset about.

Who is this "everyone" you speak of? There is only one "us" in my life, my Dom and me, the rest of you really do not matter other than in some ephemeral way that all human beings matter to me. There are many causes to take up the mantle for in this world, and how I express my sexuality just is not a mantle I want to take up. I would be more likely to take up the cause of Gay marriage than WIITWD, but that is just me.

People should live their lives in a way that pleases them, and they should not feel a compunction to replenish ranks as though they owe some obligation to you or anyone else. We do not owe anyone any part of our lives unless we have made some sort of direct commitment to that, and if people do not want to replenish ranks, they shouldn't have to.

For some of us it is about our personal relationship and what exists there, that is our priority, not an external group outside of ourselves. I have never been to a munch, I have never been to a play party, I have never been to a dungeon. I have had two power exchange relationships... it is about that for me, nothing else. I perfect my submission for my Daddy, no one else... it is not about you, a local group, a national group, or people with pitchforks chasing lifestylers around. Perhaps that sounds somewhat selfcentered to you, and perhaps it is... I just find other things more pressing for my time, like my unmentionable, my Daddy, my education, my job, my friends, my extended family.

I have a Ds relationship, we play by engaging in BDSM and other extraneous kinks. It is not rocket science.

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RE: D/s versus BDSM - 1/28/2007 10:54:02 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MasterGremlin

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ORIGINAL: SirKenin

N/nobody I/is P/putting L/labels O/on A/anybody.  S/someone I/is J/just T/trying T/to F/figure O/out W/where D/s F/fits I/into T/the W/whole P/picture.


And mocking my respect for A/all is how You would answer?

If You read carefully, You will notice that I didn't say A/anyone was putting labels on O/others.  

Sincerely,
minxy



It is not respect.  It is noobishness.  I have respect for people, B/but I/i D/do N/not T/type L/like T/this.

And I am not a You.  I am a you.  I am not exactly royalty or God or anything.  I used to like capitalizing Me, but even that I got tired of after a while.  My suggestion is to lose the caps, because you are not proving anything nor demonstrating anything other than the fact that you are a noob.  K?

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RE: D/s versus BDSM - 1/28/2007 11:04:37 PM   
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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

it is not about you, a local group, a national group, or people with pitchforks chasing lifestylers around. Perhaps that sounds somewhat selfcentered to you, and perhaps it is... I just find other things more pressing for my time, like my unmentionable, my Daddy, my education, my job, my friends, my extended family.



OMG I love the pitchforks!  It is so sexy and talks to the B/tD/s/S/m/M/m in ALLLLLL OF US!

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RE: D/s versus BDSM - 1/28/2007 11:11:53 PM   
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PITCHFORKS!!!!!!

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RE: D/s versus BDSM - 1/28/2007 11:18:44 PM   
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ORIGINAL: obey1

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

it is not about you, a local group, a national group, or people with pitchforks chasing lifestylers around. Perhaps that sounds somewhat selfcentered to you, and perhaps it is... I just find other things more pressing for my time, like my unmentionable, my Daddy, my education, my job, my friends, my extended family.



OMG I love the pitchforks!  It is so sexy and talks to the B/tD/s/S/m/M/m in ALLLLLL OF US!


It is U/us.   Show some respect. 

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RE: D/s versus BDSM - 1/29/2007 12:24:01 AM   
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When I started this topic, it's because I genuinely wanted to see what others thought.  Nothing like stating a firm opinion to get people to state theirs.

I've read everyone's response up to this point, and I'm fascinated by the fact that while everyone's opinion is just a tad different, there is a theme running through here.  From what I can see, everyone agrees that they are two things that can connect (or do connect or don't connect or might connect).

smiles...I did get stuck on the one thing.....PITCHFORK

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RE: D/s versus BDSM - 1/29/2007 6:50:02 AM   
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ORIGINAL: SirKenin

quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterGremlin

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ORIGINAL: SirKenin

N/nobody I/is P/putting L/labels O/on A/anybody.  S/someone I/is J/just T/trying T/to F/figure O/out W/where D/s F/fits I/into T/the W/whole P/picture.


And mocking my respect for A/all is how You would answer?

If You read carefully, You will notice that I didn't say A/anyone was putting labels on O/others.  

Sincerely,
minxy



It is not respect.  It is noobishness.  I have respect for people, B/but I/i D/do N/not T/type L/like T/this.

And I am not a You.  I am a you.  I am not exactly royalty or God or anything.  I used to like capitalizing Me, but even that I got tired of after a while.  My suggestion is to lose the caps, because you are not proving anything nor demonstrating anything other than the fact that you are a noob.  K?


So what you are saying is that following what my Master has told me to do and showing respect in the form I was taught is "noob"?  (whatever the hell that means).  Don't worry, I will refrain from showing respect to "you" since "you" obviously have none for me. 
Sincerely,
minxy

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RE: D/s versus BDSM - 1/29/2007 7:01:56 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MasterGremlin
So what you are saying is that following what my Master has told me to do and showing respect in the form I was taught is "noob"?  (whatever the hell that means).  Don't worry, I will refrain from showing respect to "you" since "you" obviously have none for me. 
Sincerely,
minxy

I'll just point out that for me, respect isn't something I give out like candy prizes.

How other people act does not affect how *I* choose my own manners.  Someone else's lack of manners and respect is never an excuse to forget my own, and perhaps by showing the other cheek and engaging in a graceful discussion, you could reach a better understanding.

Instead you get ruffled, upset, and then yank away your "respect" publicly as if you were enforcing some sort of punishment.

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RE: D/s versus BDSM - 1/29/2007 7:06:48 AM   
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ORIGINAL: obey1


Oh, geez.  So no labels, ever?  Damn!  That's the whole reason I got into this ASS/Wiitwd/BDSM because I have a whole package of post it notes that have no purpose!


Post it notes are not official. If you want to label things you must have a genuine labeler.
 
Lol, Jewel got one for Xmas, look out cm posters!!!!!

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RE: D/s versus BDSM - 1/29/2007 7:50:08 AM   
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Damn straight... I have the official Dymo Label Maker.... Now I can label anything I want. I like labels.
 
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RE: D/s versus BDSM - 1/29/2007 10:18:58 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MasterGremlin

quote:

ORIGINAL: SirKenin

quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterGremlin

quote:

ORIGINAL: SirKenin

N/nobody I/is P/putting L/labels O/on A/anybody.  S/someone I/is J/just T/trying T/to F/figure O/out W/where D/s F/fits I/into T/the W/whole P/picture.


And mocking my respect for A/all is how You would answer?

If You read carefully, You will notice that I didn't say A/anyone was putting labels on O/others.  

Sincerely,
minxy



It is not respect.  It is noobishness.  I have respect for people, B/but I/i D/do N/not T/type L/like T/this.

And I am not a You.  I am a you.  I am not exactly royalty or God or anything.  I used to like capitalizing Me, but even that I got tired of after a while.  My suggestion is to lose the caps, because you are not proving anything nor demonstrating anything other than the fact that you are a noob.  K?


So what you are saying is that following what my Master has told me to do and showing respect in the form I was taught is "noob"?  (whatever the hell that means).  Don't worry, I will refrain from showing respect to "you" since "you" obviously have none for me. 
Sincerely,
minxy


I would think that your Master has more common sense than that.  Showing respect to me is different.  And thank you for not capitalizing me.  Actually you just demonstrated more respect than you could have imagined, because you accomodated my request and I appreciate that very much.

I have respect for you, I just do not have any patience for foolishness.  People can get the two confused.  They think because I am blunt with them and do not tolerate shit that I have no respect, but that just is not true.

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RE: D/s versus BDSM - 1/29/2007 11:27:49 AM   
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I do not get what you are upset about.

I do not get what you are so non-chalant about.

Who is this "everyone" you speak of? There is only one "us" in my life, my Dom and me, the rest of you really do not matter other than in some ephemeral way that all human beings matter to me.

So then why do you post here and even care about this community?  What is your interest in us?

There are many causes to take up the mantle for in this world, and how I express my sexuality just is not a mantle I want to take up. I would be more likely to take up the cause of Gay marriage than WIITWD, but that is just me.

See?  You give your opinion as well.  That is what we are all doing here.

People should live their lives in a way that pleases them, and they should not feel a compunction to replenish ranks as though they owe some obligation to you or anyone else. We do not owe anyone any part of our lives unless we have made some sort of direct commitment to that, and if people do not want to replenish ranks, they shouldn't have to.

6226 posts and counting sounds like a pretty long term commitment to SOMETHING to me.  How many of your posts have given any form of your opinion, WIIT-YOU-D, or some kind of ongoing commitment to help others either understand, or to underhandedly replenish the ranks of people who are seeking to gain more experience in our little 'mantle' of the world?

For some of us it is about our personal relationship and what exists there, that is our priority, not an external group outside of ourselves. ... it is not about you, a local group, a national group, or people ... I just find other things more pressing for my time, like my ...friends, my extended family.

I paraphrased here to show that you DO understand and get what I was upset about.  Whoever your friends or extended family are, they merit your time.  The implication of 'family' in the matter implies replenishing the ranks through extension, marriage, or inclusion.  It is too bad that after six thousand two hundred posts this concept eludes you.  Your actions speak louder than your words.  Whether or not it is 'important' to you, by being so prolific you accomplish something that you have no interest in accomplishing.

I have a Ds relationship, we play by engaging in BDSM and other extraneous kinks. It is not rocket science.


Once again, by giving your opinion of the simplicity of the matter, you again demonstrate that Ds and BDSM whatever those two terms mean to you are your two acronyms for.........WIIT-YOU-D.

And on the discussion goes!

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