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ORIGINAL: toservez

Until I see another form of government that frees it’s people from corruption and has 100% agreement on everything it does and still have the freedoms we have, just not King George’s view on that, then the best way to make change is to vote and get active in the political process.

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ORIGINAL: Devilslilsister

i have a friend who is older then me by about 16 years.  They're on a mission in a sense, to start a revolution. Right now, it was brought to my attention that there is no specific US law that states americans have to pay taxes.  A code 26, but no law.  So my friend, and their friends are literally having a stand off right now up in  New Hamsphire right now.   (this is just another effort on my friends part to bring down the tyranny of the US.)

i'm told that it all has to start some where.  My response is - you cant fight the gov.  The only way to stop the injustice the US gov does to its ppl would be for Rome to fall.  Rome will fall, just God knows when.  So i'm told, "it all has to start some where" 

i'm also told i dont understand, that out of all people, they expected me to understand.  i understand what's expected from me.  I also understand that when i used to hang with this person - i'd of been right there fighting long side and i'd be at that house.  I'd of said "lets do it" .

I cant now.  i've learned too much (and ended up with 3 felonies trying).  You cant fight the government, you cant win, and until Rome falls - it will always be wrong.  To me it comes down to idealistic vs realistic.  Realistically a civil war - will just end bloody.  Another government will pop up and it to will be corrupted.  Power = corruption.  Heck, Government = corruption.   i tried stating all of this, with more logic as to while the stand off just isnt wise.  They wont win and the people involved will either end up in jail or dead.  To me - that is just the way it is.  There is nothing to do about it. I'm told, its about honor.

The only thing i see that is reasonable to do is - get along.  Watch my back and get along.  The world is corrupted and is utter crap.  It has always been so.  Ones best bet is to not try and make the world good, but to find the good in the world.  Thats all you can do.  (and navigate through the crap)

Thoughts?  Am i missing something here?  Did i lose something along the way?  Or did i just lose my idealistic views?  i feel like i've lost apart of myself, the person that would be fighting.  That would be heading up to N Hampshire right now.... Except i cant place my finger.  But on the same token, i look at this wee person i have and i have too much at stake.  In regards to having too much at stake (ie a wee person) i'm asked do i really want to leave this mess for her to grow up into?  Which i dont..... but to me....... that is just the way it is. 

Thoughts? 

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ORIGINAL: Devilslilsister

LOL i told my friend that.  They say they've ppl all over the country uniting.  I still think they're just going to end in despair.  Because if they do get a revolution going, they wont have a military stronger then the US and they all end up in jail or dead.  Legally i think they're screwed as well.  Its just pointless.  They're trying to be "legal" but the legal system isnt really fair.

Aye and they know it.  Like my friend told me, he cant think of a better way to die.  They say "honor" i say stupidity.  You'd think my friend would know by now that you cant fight the system. What they want.. wont happen any time soon.  The best bet is for Rome to fall.  Which it will, eventually.  Just have to hold out till then. 

and if you want any other video links.... i could hook you up with about a million 9/11 and how it was a consipracy.  Probably hook you up with a few others too. 

i still believe - "you cant change the world, only find the good in it"  So other then random updates, i steer clear. (and watch the back of me and mine)   

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ORIGINAL: Archer

I'm asuming you're speaking about Brown and that group up there. He's already been convicted by a court of tax evassion and is awaiting sentance, he stopped attending his trial before sentancing and now is held up at home. Basicly taunting federal law enforcement. Citing WACO and RUBY RIDGE, come in and get me coppers mentality.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,244759,00.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Brown_(tax_protester)

http://www.unionleader.com/pda-article.aspx?articleId=3817b9a6-b88e-4dd7-ad43-643f1e643289

Pick a link for whichever source you want, dozens of links on google.

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: Devilslilsister

LOL i told my friend that.  They say they've ppl all over the country uniting.  I still think they're just going to end in despair.  Because if they do get a revolution going, they wont have a military stronger then the US and they all end up in jail or dead.  Legally i think they're screwed as well.  Its just pointless.  They're trying to be "legal" but the legal system isnt really fair.

Aye and they know it.  Like my friend told me, he cant think of a better way to die.  They say "honor" i say stupidity.  You'd think my friend would know by now that you cant fight the system. What they want.. wont happen any time soon.  The best bet is for Rome to fall.  Which it will, eventually.  Just have to hold out till then. 

and if you want any other video links.... i could hook you up with about a million 9/11 and how it was a consipracy.  Probably hook you up with a few others too. 

i still believe - "you cant change the world, only find the good in it"  So other then random updates, i steer clear. (and watch the back of me and mine)   

They need 2 things frankly.

They need a serioulsy good attorney, and they need to figure out a way to make it a media trial!

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ORIGINAL: Archer

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: Devilslilsister

LOL i told my friend that.  They say they've ppl all over the country uniting.  I still think they're just going to end in despair.  Because if they do get a revolution going, they wont have a military stronger then the US and they all end up in jail or dead.  Legally i think they're screwed as well.  Its just pointless.  They're trying to be "legal" but the legal system isnt really fair.

Aye and they know it.  Like my friend told me, he cant think of a better way to die.  They say "honor" i say stupidity.  You'd think my friend would know by now that you cant fight the system. What they want.. wont happen any time soon.  The best bet is for Rome to fall.  Which it will, eventually.  Just have to hold out till then. 

and if you want any other video links.... i could hook you up with about a million 9/11 and how it was a consipracy.  Probably hook you up with a few others too. 

i still believe - "you cant change the world, only find the good in it"  So other then random updates, i steer clear. (and watch the back of me and mine)   

They need 2 things frankly.

They need a serioulsy good attorney, and they need to figure out a way to make it a media trial!

Ypu seem to have missed the central point.


He's already been convicted


All that remains is sentancing and his bunk buddy selection process.

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ORIGINAL: mixielicous

i heard about this movement of trying to get 10k liberals into NH by like, what, 2110 so it can decare itself a liberal state [or was it libertarians??]

thats one way to get the ball moving

people were reimbursed for the move too