Should a dominant be subjected to the same implements that he subjects his submissive to?

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SirDiscipliner69 -> Should a dominant be subjected to the same implements that he subjects his submissive to? (2/6/2007 10:39:57 AM)
Should a dominant be subjected to the same implements that he subjects his submissive to? Ross http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bon_D_Age/members?o=6 Designermite http://www.cafepress.com/designermite

KatyLied -> RE: Should a dominant be subjected to the same implements that he subjects his submissive to? (2/6/2007 10:43:28 AM)
Nope, he'll cry. [:D]

SirDiscipliner69 -> RE: Should a dominant be subjected to the same implements that he subjects his submissive to? (2/6/2007 10:45:40 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: KatyLied Nope, he'll cry. [:D] Why do you say that? Mindset? Ross http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bon_D_Age/members?o=6 Designermite http://www.cafepress.com/designermite

KatyLied -> RE: Should a dominant be subjected to the same implements that he subjects his submissive to? (2/6/2007 10:47:43 AM)
I am teasing! I don't think it's necessary for a Dom to feel the whip in order to wield it. That's just my opinion. Part of it is mindset, yes, it would be an unpleasant visualization to picture a man I wish to dominate me on the bottom end of something. My reaction would be "oops, I don't think so."

SirDiscipliner69 -> RE: Should a dominant be subjected to the same implements that he subjects his submissive to? (2/6/2007 10:50:59 AM)
So you have a definite projection of how the dominant should be then...a mind's eye...if the image is not as your fantasize then the session does not work for you? Ross http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bon_D_Age/members?o=6 Designermite http://www.cafepress.com/designermite

viperess -> RE: Should a dominant be subjected to the same implements that he subjects his submissive to? (2/6/2007 10:52:38 AM)
That could be an interesting concept. No on second thought thinking of Master in that manor does make me laugh but would i want to see it? i really do not think so. Of course the fact that i am pretty much as He says a "pain slut" i am not sure He would still do some of the things He does to me if first He had to experience it. Now there is that dxxx electric fly swatter...but that is a whole nother story. viperess slave of CTDOM4sub

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Should a dominant be subjected to the same implements that he subjects his submissive to? (2/6/2007 10:55:13 AM)
Only if he wants.

KatyLied -> RE: Should a dominant be subjected to the same implements that he subjects his submissive to? (2/6/2007 10:56:09 AM)
quote: So you have a definite projection of how the dominant should be then... Yep. The strong, sort of silent type works for me. I'm also not the least bit switchy, so I can't relate to being on the other end of the implements, I don't think I could go there. As a good sub, I'd it if asked, but only because it was an order.

tangldupinblue -> RE: Should a dominant be subjected to the same implements that he subjects his submissive to? (2/6/2007 10:57:20 AM)
in short my answer is yes....i think inorder to have a firm knowledge of what an instrument can do it has to be felt. do i want to see it Daddy that way.NOOOOO NOOOOO NEVER. blue

BitaTruble -> RE: Should a dominant be subjected to the same implements that he subjects his submissive to? (2/6/2007 10:58:25 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SirDiscipliner69 Should a dominant be subjected to the same implements that he subjects his submissive to? Ross http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bon_D_Age/members?o=6 Designermite http://www.cafepress.com/designermite I wouldn't say 'should', but if he's also a masochist and wants to be, I'll invite him over for dinner and dessert. [;)] Celeste

Caitriona -> RE: Should a dominant be subjected to the same implements that he subjects his submissive to? (2/6/2007 10:59:49 AM)
I think it is a good idea, but not particularly necessary, due to the nature of my relationship with My Lord. I trust him to not push too hard with any new toy introduced into our play.

SirDiscipliner69 -> RE: Should a dominant be subjected to the same implements that he subjects his submissive to? (2/6/2007 11:01:12 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: KatyLied Yep. The strong, sort of silent type works for me. I'm also not the least bit switchy, so I can't relate to being on the other end of the implements, I don't think I could go there. As a good sub, I'd it if asked, but only because it was an order. So a dominant should not show emotion? [image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m10.gif[/image] Ross http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bon_D_Age/members?o=6 Designermite http://www.cafepress.com/designermite

SirDiscipliner69 -> RE: Should a dominant be subjected to the same implements that he subjects his submissive to? (2/6/2007 11:02:27 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tangldupinblue in short my answer is yes....i think inorder to have a firm knowledge of what an instrument can do it has to be felt. So is that a question submissives ask...have you felt this on yourself? How many ask that question? Ross http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bon_D_Age/members?o=6 Designermite http://www.cafepress.com/designermite

tangldupinblue -> RE: Should a dominant be subjected to the same implements that he subjects his submissive to? (2/6/2007 11:04:26 AM)
i have asked the question in the past, mostly when its a new toy. but i have never asked Daddy about it, it never accured to me, i trust him more then i have ever trusted anyone. blue

MissEnchantress -> RE: Should a dominant be subjected to the same implements that he subjects his submissive to? (2/6/2007 11:04:34 AM)
I really don't see the point in that. No two people are ever going to experience the impliment the same way. Plus the mind set is different - 'ho hum doing this because I have to' is going to feel so much different then 'master is about to whip me' even if the same intensity is delivered. While I do attempt to try all implements out on myself I have an outrageously high pain tollerence. What I barely notices has many subs in tears.

KatyLied -> RE: Should a dominant be subjected to the same implements that he subjects his submissive to? (2/6/2007 11:07:54 AM)
How do you learn about service-delivery? I would worry that my implements aren't striking hard enough, or perhaps too hard. It's much easier to bottom. [:)]

obey1 -> RE: Should a dominant be subjected to the same implements that he subjects his submissive to? (2/6/2007 11:16:13 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tangldupinblue in short my answer is yes....i think inorder to have a firm knowledge of what an instrument can do it has to be felt. That is a whole can of worms. That is like saying in order for one to be Sadistic they must have first experienced Masochism. Or in order to know what penetration feels like, one must be penetrated (i.e. a vibrator "instrument" up the ass) Or sucking dick, etc. There are a bunch of people that would disagree that the road to becoming a Dom/me starts with being submissive first. There are an entire group of people as well in Gorean thought that one is born into a household. Wisdom is known by her children.

SirDiscipliner69 -> RE: Should a dominant be subjected to the same implements that he subjects his submissive to? (2/6/2007 11:24:33 AM)
So you wouldn't mind the battery recharger being used on you by him?[image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m10.gif[/image] Ross http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bon_D_Age/members?o=6 Designermite http://www.cafepress.com/designermite

SirDiscipliner69 -> RE: Should a dominant be subjected to the same implements that he subjects his submissive to? (2/6/2007 11:46:07 AM)
Seems the post that was simuliar to this one but worded differently was deleted and I was given another warning for violating rules. Ross

AquaticSub -> RE: Should a dominant be subjected to the same implements that he subjects his submissive to? (2/6/2007 12:03:40 PM)
~Fast Reply~ I feel it's best to know how everything feels. I was lucky enough to have a "lesson" in toys from a very experienced master who felt every toy should be tested on himself first. He was definately all dominant but, and I agree, it easier to have an idea how things will feel on the submissive when you've felt them yourself. At the same time, I don't think it's required. You can definately be a great dominant without doing this, I just think it helps.

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