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RE: Masturbating & Public Play - 2/10/2007 8:47:56 PM   
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Personally I never had a problem with the wankers at Hellfire so long as they kept their distance.  I'm not hugely into the thrill of people watching, but to me watching is watching and even if they are sitting there sipping a coffee or masturbating either way they are watching and I tend to block it out during a scene.

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P.S. I really like to watch men masturbate so that may be why I didn't care about the wankers.  I also never had them try to touch me or do anything weird like I heard about from other women that went to Hellfire.


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RE: Masturbating & Public Play - 2/10/2007 8:57:01 PM   
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"I mean, could folks hold up Olympic-size score cards"

I so have to develop that fetish. Heck with just in clubs...it'd be great in everyday life to just have a backpack with Olympic-size score cards within.



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RE: Masturbating & Public Play - 2/10/2007 8:59:11 PM   
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I personally enjoy seeing a man stroke himself.  Master made a video of Himself for me at one time, I think I wore it out
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RE: Masturbating & Public Play - 2/10/2007 9:21:48 PM   
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Different strokes for different folks.......OY sorry couldnt resist..~ducks and runs~...Tempting

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RE: Masturbating & Public Play - 2/10/2007 9:31:55 PM   
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hee hee...

honestly though, if it within the club rules and everyone knows that... then I wouldn't really be able to complain.

Lets just hope they have the courtesy to clean up afterwards

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RE: Masturbating & Public Play - 2/10/2007 9:33:58 PM   
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I know you were just making a facetious point, but no they could not. That would be infringing on the scene and they'd be told to stop by any of the dungion mods or the hostess for being loud and interfearing.

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I mean, could folks hold up Olympic-size score cards or shout out encouragement or discouragement? 

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RE: Masturbating & Public Play - 2/10/2007 9:40:16 PM   
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I don't have a problem with it as long as it is done so that no one else is offended by it. Meaning there is a place for everything.  There have been times I have been so into it that if somone wanted to watch I wouldn't have cared if they watched as long as they didn't interfere. I have had women who enjoyed watching me get off and I enjoyed watching them also. We have done it in public just not where anyone can see us. That was because we did not want to get arrested. I have never been to a party where anyone did it out in front of all too see but it would not bother me as long as I wasn't hit by it. A condom might be a good idea in a crowd of people. Exchanging of bodily fluids should be at the consent of all concerned. And as for it being wrong because BDSM is not about sex why is it when my Mistress whips me or does some other wonderful thing too me do I get as hard as a rock. I guess I shouldn't because it isn't about sex. It's like having her beat my ass and me being hard verses her beating my ass and me having already gotten off it isn't near as much enjoyment. Sometimes it is about sex like it or not. Just my 2cents worth.
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RE: Masturbating & Public Play - 2/10/2007 9:51:51 PM   
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well, public play is not a bad idea...however I would prefer to see the women masturbating as well, then its fun for everyone, men watching the women, and the women watching the men masturbating silly. In any case...while I respect what anyone wishes to do or engage in, it is a bit strange for me that people could be involved in BDSM without enjoying the sexual aspects of it...I am not saying it is all about sex because it is not, but sex is a factor.

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RE: Masturbating & Public Play - 2/10/2007 9:56:47 PM   
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Hey, I want to watch the women too, thankyouvermuch :P

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RE: Masturbating & Public Play - 2/10/2007 10:01:05 PM   
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Once you put yourself out there, isn't anything game?  I mean, could folks hold up Olympic-size score cards or shout out encouragement or discouragement?  Sure, it isn't the thing to do, but it made me laugh thinking of all the ways people could invade your public display.  Of course, if there is a rule against masturbation it should be upheld, but isn't public play giving a lot of free reign to strangers...a part of yourself, perhaps (just in that moment, of course)?


I do not open myself to anything, my Daddy opens me up to it. It is his decision of whether or not he wants to tolerate public play in whatever circumstance within my hard limts (which are very very few these days). I am thinking that there are generally things known of common courtesy that people know better than to do. I have not played yet in public, but it is my understanding that people will be tossed out for not being respectful to each other. Although i could be wrong about other clubs than my Daddy goes to. But in my case I do not decide what happens when we play in public, he does.


I do not believe that just because you and your partner want to beat each other senseless that it opens you "to anything". Clubs generally have rules, one should find out the rules before they go out anywhere. There are nights at the Lair that are for couples only for example. There is a reason for this.




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RE: Masturbating & Public Play - 2/10/2007 11:21:32 PM   
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It about manners and consent. 

If attending a sex club or BDSM grouping where sex/masturbation is allowed, then no problem, one signed up for that possibility and gave consent to it by being there.

But if at a nudist resort, dance club or BDSM grouping where sex/masturbation is against the guidelines then the person doing it is being rude and breaking the understood (and in some cases stated) consent given by those they're getting off on watching.

Add in the issue of bodiy fluids and lack of safe-sex measures by random wankers...

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RE: Masturbating & Public Play - 2/10/2007 11:29:38 PM   
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I don't think you are weird. I'm a man and I don't even like looking at my own cum. As to other men ejaculating, yuck. But what is weird about me is that I don't mind brown, golden, roman or ruby showers from women. I have even consumed during certain scenarios. Go figure.

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RE: Masturbating & Public Play - 2/10/2007 11:32:18 PM   
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I guess if a restaurant can have a rule about men wearing ties and dinner jackets, it wouldn't be wrong to have a rule on masturbation at BDSM events.

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RE: Masturbating & Public Play - 2/10/2007 11:46:50 PM   
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What are the rules of the club?  If that's acceptable then it should be expected by those who attend...or why attend?  Perhaps people should find this out before they go....or is that just an unreasonable notion?
 
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RE: Masturbating & Public Play - 2/11/2007 1:07:31 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MasterFireMaam

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

One of the things that has continuously puzzled me is how so many kinksters say they are grossed out and consider it yucky if there are people (usually males) walking around or standing next to a scene and openly masturbating.

My question is why?  Why is it ok to put a naked butt up on a cross and whip it a bunch in public, but somehow a guy getting turned on and quietly (though blatantly) playing with himself is not cool?

Not that we should all find every type of scene lovely and beautiful- obviously we all have preferences and that's fine.  But many places will actually have rules AGAINST openly masturbating or complaints about it.  I don't get why kinksters seem to have such a problem with this, versus all the other stuff that goes on?


I think it's the feeling of being used without consent. "That guy" is using scenes as free porn, or something. Being a voyuer still has a big taboo tagged to it (which is WHY lots of people like it). I have to say that I'd not totally be comfortable with it (I have a "dirty old man" squick factor) if I saw it, but if I knew it wasn't against club/party rules, he wasn't invading a scene and he damn well cleaned up after himself, I'd simply not watch him. Hmmm...actually...that might be fun.

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Thank you for putting this into words for me.  It does feel like you are being used without consent. 

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RE: Masturbating & Public Play - 2/11/2007 1:44:27 AM   
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SimplyMichael,

I've seen this before and have often wondered what the purpose was behind it.....spitting in their mouths?
Please explain?

thanks

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RE: Masturbating & Public Play - 2/11/2007 2:53:33 AM   
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Isn't there a time and place for everything.If in a scene at a club ok,but just walking around and openly beating it's peace well, theres no accounting for maners and breading in some people. (smiles).....I'll give it a hand and it won't need to worry about it ever again.

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RE: Masturbating & Public Play - 2/11/2007 4:23:18 AM   
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The club in Atlanta has a rule against any body fluids and against genital to genital contact in the public space but provides private rooms for such activities.  Has nothing to do with intolerance, just bio-hazard and perhaps 'blue laws'. 

i personally would like to know that what i am doing is an "inspriation" and would feel honored.


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RE: Masturbating & Public Play - 2/11/2007 4:26:03 AM   
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quote:

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SimplyMichael,
I've seen this before and have often wondered what the purpose was behind it.....spitting in their mouths?
Please explain?       thanks


1. It is rather gross but it is also very submissive to lay there mouth open and watch Him (Griffin i mean, not Michael , but not that i wouldn't mind playing with Michael either..but, well, er,  OK, back the regular broadcast..) let a big 'ol spit drop down, having to watch, keep my mouth open and take it is VERY submissive for me.  other times it is sudden 'spit' into, such as when vertical. Being told, open your mouth and then suddenly you feel the spit in your mouth as you hear the sound.. Usually blindfolded so it is a surprise. 

2. It grosses others out and Griffin likes to sometimes shake up the 'audience' and see who goes away when He dose something really gross or edgy.

3. He gets off on the power knowing He can spit into someone mouth and they accept it. Power Exchange.

and we are fluid bonded so there is no issue there.

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RE: Masturbating & Public Play - 2/11/2007 7:22:47 AM   
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This makes me wonder what you do consent to during public play.   Once you put yourself out there, isn't anything game?  I mean, could folks hold up Olympic-size score cards or shout out encouragement or discouragement?  Sure, it isn't the thing to do, but it made me laugh thinking of all the ways people could invade your public display.  Of course, if there is a rule against masturbation it should be upheld, but isn't public play giving a lot of free reign to strangers...a part of yourself, perhaps (just in that moment, of course)?

I think we need kinky sport commentators....."oooh, look at that back swing, Mike, I don't even think he connected where he wanted to with last stroke."  "Sure you're right, Frank, but we need to take into consideration the ceiling height.  Okay, here we go, he's going to switch to the Thumper....shorter strands but certainly a more substantial weight...this is a whole new ball game, Frank." 


OMG--that's about the funniest thing i've heard all day....i mean, okay, so it's only 9am, but still...where can i sign up for the sportscasters???

A little more on the topic, i'll disclaimer by saying that i am very new to my local scene, but at the dungeon i go to, there are rules against even talking to ppl who are scening, unless it's an announced instruction night, which means that the sceners are required to answer questions about why they're doing it, what they're doing, etc (and can i say, i have to refrain from saying to the sub "Oooh, does that HURT?" when it obviously does...meh, i'll chalk that up to my newness with such things, and me not knowing how it all feels yet).  So at our dungeon, the score cards and sportscasters would definitely be out...unfortunately. 

That being said, i think i would be a little uncomfortable if i was watching a scene, and the guy next to me was wacking off.  My dungeon also has rules about sex during open nights, and i'm guessing that masturbation would fall under those rules, but i don't know....

i think for me, the bottom line has to be the rules of the public play area...if the rules permit masturbation of either sex (and really, let's be honest, no one's probably going to complain about the women, b/c i don't know any men who are grossed out by women masturbating in ANY arena, and women probably won't care that much about seeing other women masturbate...plus, women are less likely to anyway, as has already been pointed out)....as i was saying, fi the rules permit it, i think by being there, you consent to it, and probably shouldn't complain.

If the rules don't permit it, i'm again going to go with consent, and say that the rules should be enforced by the DM's, b/c people have NOT consented to be wanking material in this case. Just my .02.

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