needdiscipline23
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If one goes to a heavy BDSM club, do they not expect people to become aroused? And have these people not already consented in essence by choosing to go there? If you see something that you don't approve of, you walk away. You don't whine about it being against your consent, otherwise some puritanical twit could waltz into any fetish event, exclaim their displeasure at the behavior there, and force everyone to put away their toys.
Give me a break! I hate watching people make out in public, but I don't run to the nearest police officer and demand that they be forced to stop because I didn't consent to seeing it. I direct my attention elsewhere instead of trying to force feed my morals to other people.
As for ' leaving puddles '... women do this too, especially while naked. It is a bodily fluid, sure. So where do we go from there? Lets see, whenever someone sneezes they are expelling their bodily fluids through the air. Do we toss them out of clubs every time they sneeze? I've caught colds while around other people that were sneezing, and I damned sure didn't give my consent to be violated by their germs, except that I did willingly go out in public. I consented to go to a place that might expose me to the cold virus. In the same light, I am relatively certain that some guy is going to sprout wood at a BDSM party. Unlike exposure to a cold virus, it is not just possible, it is very damned likely! In fact it is just about as likely that I will encounter a boner there as it is that I will see someone with a sword at a ren fair. Ohhhhh, dangerous weapons are scary! I didn't consent to condoning violence, and a sword is made only for violence.... therefore they need to close the ren fair down, right? Same convoluted logic.
As was pointed out before--it's debatable what you've consented to, even if you are scening in public...you aren't consenting to being touched by random audience members (in fact, it's a big no no), you aren't consenting to the loud sports commentary (unfortunately, since that would be SO much fun) or even the large scorecards. So just b/c you are there, doesn't mean you have consented to being wanker fodder. Again, it goes back to the rules of the establishment, and if someone is breaking them, I think people have every right to *complain* to a dungeon monitor--WIITWD is ALL about consent, and I think if people are breaking the rules, they are potentially violating that for some people, and that's not fair. If it's not against the rules I'm not sure consent is an issue, and I say, look away if you're bothered, or speak politely to the person if they're affecting your scene somehow.
At the dungeon I go to, anyone leaving bodily fluids is expected to clean up after themselves. I don't care if it's a sneeze or cum--leaving a puddle on the floor or a bench is inappropriate and rude.
--Edited to add that I don't have enough experience to actually KNOW if I'm bothered by masturbating in public...this is just my humble opinion about the principles involved.
< Message edited by needdiscipline23 -- 2/11/2007 8:41:47 PM >
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