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AquaticSub -> RE: Spotting a Fake Dom (2/27/2007 9:55:22 PM)

Aww... now that was just mean.




defiantbadgirl -> RE: Spotting a Fake Dom (2/27/2007 10:00:43 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: FukinTroll

And sometimes a 70 page forum reference.


That was simply a difference of opinion. I refer to those who say one thing, then contradict their own statement either a few minutes or a few days later.




FukinTroll -> RE: Spotting a Fake Dom (2/27/2007 10:02:29 PM)

Hmmm... so you wouldn't consider 70 pages an abnormal thing?




defiantbadgirl -> RE: Spotting a Fake Dom (2/27/2007 10:13:10 PM)

Are you telling me you have never had a long heated discussion? A psycho is someone who can't keep their story straight, stalks you, calls you repeatedly at work, damages your property, etc. I have never nor would I ever do that to anyone.




FukinTroll -> RE: Spotting a Fake Dom (2/27/2007 10:21:12 PM)

They also suffer from a deluded ideology.




defiantbadgirl -> RE: Spotting a Fake Dom (2/27/2007 10:27:35 PM)

Then I suggest you post a new thread saying anyone who doesn't want a partner who has engaged in bisexual acts on a regular basis is a psycho. It has nothing to do with this thread.




FukinTroll -> RE: Spotting a Fake Dom (2/27/2007 10:30:17 PM)

LMAO!!!! I rest my case.




defiantbadgirl -> RE: Spotting a Fake Dom (2/27/2007 10:53:30 PM)

I have never  stalked a man, harassed him at work, or destroyed his property. I've earned a 4.0 GPA my last 2 semesters in college. My bondage partner trusts me more than he has ever trusted any other play partners. Yeah, I'm a real psycho lol.




stef -> RE: Spotting a Fake Dom (2/27/2007 10:54:54 PM)

Admitting you have a problem is the first step to being cured.

~stef




AquaticSub -> RE: Spotting a Fake Dom (2/27/2007 10:57:10 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl

quote:

ORIGINAL: FukinTroll

And sometimes a 70 page forum reference.


That was simply a difference of opinion. I refer to those who say one thing, then contradict their own statement either a few minutes or a few days later.


We are not starting that again here. If you want to cling to your stubborn definitions of sexuality as laid out per Springer and Maury, I think you should do it in your own thread.




AquaticSub -> RE: Spotting a Fake Dom (2/27/2007 10:58:45 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl

Then I suggest you post a new thread saying anyone who doesn't want a partner who has engaged in bisexual acts on a regular basis is a psycho. It has nothing to do with this thread.


She's got a point Troll. Just because you are close-minded about sexuality doesn't make you a pyscho. However, she could stand to learn how to take what I will assume was a good-natured ribbing. [:)]




defiantbadgirl -> RE: Spotting a Fake Dom (2/27/2007 11:01:00 PM)

I have a problem because I don't stalk men........I admit it. Am I cured now?




littlesarbonn -> RE: Spotting a Fake Dom (2/28/2007 12:49:35 AM)

I believe my response may come from a completely different perspective because there is a lot of talk about trying to find the "perfect" dom, and I think that tends to set up a situational dichotomy that precludes people from finding a potential demographic of dominant that has the perception of being a fake dom when in fact it is anything but that.

What I am talking about is the inexperienced dominant who feels he is of a dominant nature but has little experience as one. What the original poster is talking about is a person who used her in a bad way, and thus is seen as a fake dom. But that person would be a bad catch regardless of whether or not he was a dominant, a submissive, a switch or whatever.

As a submissive myself, I often bandied about the idea of attempting to be a dominant just for the sake of seeing if I could help a woman achieve the pleasure (mental, physical and emotional) through such interactions and relational context. In the past, I used to believe I could never be a dominant because I saw it as "hurting" women, but I've had so many submissive female friends over the years that I realize that it's not actually "hurting" someone to give someone the pleasure she wishes to achieve and experience.

But going back to what I was saying before, if I EVER was to advertise as a dominant seeking a submissive, I can't even begin to imagine how many people would see my every screw up, my every attempt at trying to negotiate the correct male dom nomenclature, so that people would start calling me a "fake dom". I think there are a lot of very sincere people out there, although as hard to find as a very sincere female dominant, or a very sincere male submissive, or a very sincere ANYTHING, but they are often pushed aside by the very loud, in your face talking dominants who "dominate" the very boards themselves by an alpha male behavior pattern that serves to keep them verbose and others seen in a less obvious manner. I know this personally because I've been "shot down" in conversations by male dominants who somehow think that what they have to say is more intelligent, more poignant and more thought out because they happen to be dominants and I'm obviously not one.




topcat -> RE: Spotting a Fake Dom (2/28/2007 5:40:04 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: littlesarbonn

But going back to what I was saying before, if I EVER was to advertise as a dominant seeking a submissive, I can't even begin to imagine how many people would see my every screw up, my every attempt at trying to negotiate the correct male dom nomenclature, so that people would start calling me a "fake dom". I think there are a lot of very sincere people out there, although as hard to find as a very sincere female dominant, or a very sincere male submissive, or a very sincere ANYTHING, but they are often pushed aside by the very loud, in your face talking dominants who "dominate" the very boards themselves by an alpha male behavior pattern that serves to keep them verbose and others seen in a less obvious manner. I know this personally because I've been "shot down" in conversations by male dominants who somehow think that what they have to say is more intelligent, more poignant and more thought out because they happen to be dominants and I'm obviously not one.


Dear LS-
 
I'd have a hard time seeing you as a 'fake' anything. While I don't think we have interacted much, here on the boards, I have always valued your contributuions for their clarity.
 
I do agree the that the dominant male neophyte  has a tough row to hoe, and have always found that the good ones are the ones that hang in there, do not bluster and misrepresent themselves, and don't strive for 'alpha' positioning. Of course, in many eyes, that brands them as not 'real'<g>.
 
Stay warm,
Lawrence




BOUNTYHUNTER -> RE: Spotting a Fake Dom (2/28/2007 6:11:03 AM)

There are some very clever fakes every where you go including both doms and subs..WE have just about quit looking on collarme for another girl,most want to play email tag forever..As all ways just this ol" masters view on this subject...




slavebd06 -> RE: Spotting a Fake Dom (2/28/2007 7:29:29 AM)

I am coming in ..way into this

Personally to be careful I ususally look for certain things in figuring out who is a fake.

  • Female who is only interested in other Females
  • The other person has no access to a web camera or voice.

I know this does not apply to everyone, but its a big red flag for me.  Besides females interested in other females would not be interested in a male like me.




Trampler -> RE: Spotting a Fake Dom (2/28/2007 7:38:28 AM)

Umm. OKKKK. That strikes me as odd.  I mean I understand that you wouldn't want to talk to someone who DOESN'T have those things, but how does that make them fake? How does being a lesbian make them fake?  I don't really think about whether someone is fake or not. I just think about the things that annoy me and the things that please me.  I mean like someone who prolongs emailing back and forth, putting off meeting in person, that person could be just afraid to meet in person, especially if this is a new thing for them.  lol. This can be a scary community! heh




MistressNoName -> RE: Spotting a Fake Dom (2/28/2007 7:38:35 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: slavebd06

I am coming in ..way into this

Personally to be careful I usually look for certain things in figuring out who is a fake.

  • Female who is only interested in other Females
  • The other person has no access to a web camera or voice.

I know this does not apply to everyone, but its a big red flag for me. Besides females interested in other females would not be interested in a male like me.


Hold on a minute...am I understanding this post correctly? Is this the criteria which you use to discover if someone is fake? If so, why? I mean, doesn't a person have a right to prefer one gender over another - whether in terms of sexual orientation, service and/or play preference? And I guess then I qualify as fake b/c I do not have a webcam or voice chat capability with my preferred IM chat client.

I think you should reconsider this criteria...or if I've misunderstood, please explain this to me. Thanks.

MNN




MistressNoName -> RE: Spotting a Fake Dom (2/28/2007 7:44:56 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: littlesarbonn

I believe my response may come from a completely different perspective because there is a lot of talk about trying to find the "perfect" dom, and I think that tends to set up a situational dichotomy that precludes people from finding a potential demographic of dominant that has the perception of being a fake dom when in fact it is anything but that.

What I am talking about is the inexperienced dominant who feels he is of a dominant nature but has little experience as one. What the original poster is talking about is a person who used her in a bad way, and thus is seen as a fake dom. But that person would be a bad catch regardless of whether or not he was a dominant, a submissive, a switch or whatever.

As a submissive myself, I often bandied about the idea of attempting to be a dominant just for the sake of seeing if I could help a woman achieve the pleasure (mental, physical and emotional) through such interactions and relational context. In the past, I used to believe I could never be a dominant because I saw it as "hurting" women, but I've had so many submissive female friends over the years that I realize that it's not actually "hurting" someone to give someone the pleasure she wishes to achieve and experience.

But going back to what I was saying before, if I EVER was to advertise as a dominant seeking a submissive, I can't even begin to imagine how many people would see my every screw up, my every attempt at trying to negotiate the correct male dom nomenclature, so that people would start calling me a "fake dom". I think there are a lot of very sincere people out there, although as hard to find as a very sincere female dominant, or a very sincere male submissive, or a very sincere ANYTHING, but they are often pushed aside by the very loud, in your face talking dominants who "dominate" the very boards themselves by an alpha male behavior pattern that serves to keep them verbose and others seen in a less obvious manner. I know this personally because I've been "shot down" in conversations by male dominants who somehow think that what they have to say is more intelligent, more poignant and more thought out because they happen to be dominants and I'm obviously not one.



You make excellent points and I think your definition of "fake," is a much more useful one than others I've seen...one akin to misrepresentation and demonstrates how a lack of self-knowledge sometimes shows itself in others. Thanks for this.

MNN




slavebd06 -> RE: Spotting a Fake Dom (2/28/2007 1:58:58 PM)

No ..
What I meant was  that it sets off some red flags. Just because someone says they are a Domme and can not do voice or camera, by no means means they are something else. Its just more gut feeling




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