quote:

ORIGINAL: SirDiscipliner69


Should a dominant intentionally physically hurt, not emotionally hurt?

quote:

ORIGINAL: SirDiscipliner69

Would a Dominant be in the right if they sent a submissive to a hospital for care for what was adminsistered in a session even though it was within the submissive's consent and limits?

I read that as a dom would be in the wrong if they did not send a submissive to a hospital. Or that the dom was going beyond the pre-arrangement therefore against the 'rules'. Trick question?

Wouldn't this be an abuse of trust and responsibility?

Again I read, is the trust that is being abused the trust given in the original arrangement.

Should a dominant intentionally physically hurt, not emotionally hurt?

Should the dom know the limits of the submissive? The submissive may be a masochist or enjoy emotional turmoil.


Is harm a perception or a reality and how is it defined?

Perception.. the way I am reading your questions is my perception only, and they could be totally off-based.


Can giving a submissive discipline on a regular basis be percieved as harm as a co enabling of an adictive personality?

Again I go back to the dominant knowing the submissive, knowing what she needs.

Ross
©º°¨¨°º©

quote:

ORIGINAL: onestandingstill

I think not as the Dom would still have to choose to be a murderer.
I think many a sub does not know their own limits or the safety factors of a Doms job as far as edge play.
No matter what a sub requests, if the Dom does these things he still chose to do it and should be responsible for it.

quote:

ORIGINAL: onestandingstill

My First Sir and I did a lot of heavy breast play. Once he squeezed my boobs so hard one of my milk glands ruptured.
Being we'd played with him squeezing them harder then that before we had no idea it would rupture.

quote:

ORIGINAL: onestandingstillOn a separate note I don't see why asking questions is wrong. I think promoting discussion about subjects you are interested in has nothing to do with someone's knowledge necessarily. It may be the person just wants to see how other people's opinion mirror or don't mirror their own.
I agree Ross writes a lot, but  don't get the hostility of some people here.
If it bothers you he asks questions too much no one said you had to read or participate in his threads.
Coming here and participating only to to whine is very childish and unbecoming IMO.
suzanne

quote:

ORIGINAL: MagiksSlave

I honestly... Dont know

Im very torn here over how to answer this...

I really dont know


Magik's slave

quote:

ORIGINAL: Devilslilsister

Master is always trying to drag me to the hospital.  The times he's managed to take me, he's even refused to leave me there.  Gah - it'll take HOURS in an ER - might as well go and come back. 

quote:

ORIGINAL: gandalf0297When you are playing with a sub YOU are responsable. YOU had damn well better take her to the hospital if she needs it. And YOU had better be ready to step up to the plate and accept responsibility. In both her care and monitary needs.

quote:

ORIGINAL: cjenny

quote:

ORIGINAL: SirDiscipliner69

Would a Dominant be in the right if they sent a submissive to a hospital for care for what was adminsistered in a session even though it was within the submissive's consent and limits?

I read that as a dom would be in the wrong if they did not send a submissive to a hospital. Or that the dom was going beyond the pre-arrangement therefore against the 'rules'. Trick question?
 
 
No trick question...just if the dom were trying to pus the agreed envelope of consented limits and something did not work out or was to be more intense than awareness of both.
 
I know what I would be and do but what is the general thoughts of those that read? Have they made arangements for such?
 
 


Wouldn't this be an abuse of trust and responsibility?

Again I read, is the trust that is being abused the trust given in the original arrangement.
 
No...but the responsible person is suppose to be in charge and know better so at what point is back off just that and forget the goal of intent of pushing the envelope.
 
I know from previous experience that something previously done may not work on a certain time, location, mindset.
 
 


Should a dominant intentionally physically hurt, not emotionally hurt?

Should the dom know the limits of the submissive? The submissive may be a masochist or enjoy emotional turmoil.
 
I have had the pleasure of sessioning with many women with much higher thresholds than the typical submissive...many lapped up the pain like it was going out of style...it is all in the presentation and build up.
 
 

Ross
©º°¨¨°º©

quote:

ORIGINAL: touchthesky

i think everyone knows the difference between being a Dom and a psycho..or fantasy and reality.i m excuciatingly familiar with the DSMIV, and under the addictions area there is nothing about BDSM being related to addiction,i think u have that out of context.
any behavior can become obsessive compulsive including posting on internet forums

quote:

ORIGINAL: julietsierra

quote:

ORIGINAL: SirDiscipliner69


Should a dominant intentionally physically hurt, not emotionally hurt?

lol..I'd completely missed the emotional hurt part of this question. If he didn't delve into emotional sadism along the way, we'd have had a very short termed relationship. So damn straight a dominant should delve into emotional pain somewhere along the way if that's what he enjoys. He'd just better know what the hell he's doing and how to do it.

quote:

ORIGINAL: julietsierra
Oh yea...and that sound of glee in his voice when he hears my pain and naturally reacts to it has the power to instantly change my pain to pleasure as I realize I've been feeding his sadism quite nicely and upon reflection, he'd been feeding my masochism.

quote:

ORIGINAL: onestandingstill

Your question is a little confusing as to why the sub had to go to the Hospital.
Did the Dom do it on purpose, did he screw up and do something by accident, did he lose control and go off in a fit of rage???
Did someone else do it?
Did the sub have a medical problem unrelated to the Scene?
Exactly what you're asking I'm not sure.

quote:

ORIGINAL: NightWindWhisper

Can giving a submissive discipline on a regular basis be perceived as harm as a co-enabling of an addictive personality?

Very interesting question.  Short answer: yes.  Long answer:  Being spanked regularly (in a non-damaging manner) in a way that fulfills the need to turn to, let's say, alcohol then why not?  However anyone can perceive anything, and addicts are often linked with 12 step groups and within that there is the perception of switching one addiction for another is not good.  To enable one to do that then also would be perceived as "not good."  It's such an open ended general question it's really impossible to answer.

As a side note, I believe that much of what occurs in a d/s // bdsm relationship is addicting.  Heck I attempt to be my submissives addiction via orgasm and endorphin release, I haven't had any complaints on that one.  Consider that working out at the gym, or running can be addictive, so can stamp collecting and sex.  It's a matter of "does it interfere with life," or "is it harming the person in some way?"