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submissive biting her Dom is OK??? - 2/15/2007 1:36:34 PM   
onestandingstill


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There's a thread goin on now called 
"How do people feel about Biting as a bdsm activity?   "
In that thread many women who are submissive admit to biting their Dom. Mostly it's during sex.
None of them seem to be switches in other areas, but in this one it does not seem to be an issue for the Dom's or subs involved.
As that seems like such a non-submissive, and more toppy thing I'm surprised Doms not only permit but enjoy this being done to them by their subs.
To me biting would be akin to CBT, strap on play with him receiving, or tyeing him up or something..
I would not have the balls to just chomp on my Dom without expecting a big punishment behind it.
I'm very confused.
Do you consider biting part of scening, or so much related to sex you don't mind your sub biting you?
If you're a sub how can you do this to your Dom without feeling like you're indeed topping him with that behavior.
Or do you have another answer that makes sense?
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RE: submissive biting her Dom is OK??? - 2/15/2007 1:39:55 PM   
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RE: submissive biting her Dom is OK??? - 2/15/2007 1:41:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		suzanne,
Interesting topic which I have never really thought about....if my pet bit me....it would not be an issue as it shows she did it out of passion....and that turns me on, like a primal instinct sort of thing if you will....however if it is in non-sex or if it happened all the time, it would be very annoying and non-desirable...yet this "passion biting" gives the Dom a nice reason to spank the submissive as he sees fit.

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RE: submissive biting her Dom is OK??? - 2/15/2007 1:43:58 PM   
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RE: submissive biting her Dom is OK??? - 2/15/2007 1:47:33 PM   
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RE: submissive biting her Dom is OK??? - 2/15/2007 1:47:46 PM   
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RE: submissive biting her Dom is OK??? - 2/15/2007 1:48:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		That's what primal force play is all about.  And lots of doms and subs LOVE forcing and fighting against eachother for fun.

I've long said that slaves can rebel whenever they want- they just need permission first.

Half the reason subs love bondage is because they can feel free to fight and know that nothing will happen, they are 'forgiven' for their fighting.

And Fuking already posted the links I would have so there you go :)

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RE: submissive biting her Dom is OK??? - 2/15/2007 1:50:45 PM   
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RE: submissive biting her Dom is OK??? - 2/15/2007 1:51:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hope you don't mind me in this thread too but just had to say that I've TOLD my sub to bite and where to bite me during sex, or foreplay. 
I am very particular as to who I "play" with like that though, the person needs to have a darker personality than my sub because it is so much different than how I relate to him. 
And onestandingstill, if my sub ever DID try to bite without being invited first, there would be consequences.

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RE: submissive biting her Dom is OK??? - 2/15/2007 1:52:40 PM   
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RE: submissive biting her Dom is OK??? - 2/15/2007 2:04:28 PM   
onestandingstill


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Status: offline 		Thanks Fukin Troll & LA for all the forums.
And thanks everyone else for your answers.
LOL I'm still sitting here with my eyes wide, my eyebrows up and this blank you've got to be kidding look on my face.
I really never considered this before today, and I'd still not consider this is something I'd do myself without being ordered to.
Even if I was ordered to do this I think I'd think my Dom was a little switchy.

I'm not saying it's wrong for anyone, or should be viewed the way I see it, but it's just not something I'd be able to do comfortably.
Little luv nibbles, maybe, biting someone, never.
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RE: submissive biting her Dom is OK??? - 2/15/2007 2:22:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		That's fine One- some people think slaves shouldn't sit on furniture.  Some people think slaves shouldn't ever use the word "no."  Some people think slaves shouldn't have jobs.

As long as you're happy with what works and not suggesting that your way is THE WAY (which you aren't) then it's all fine.

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RE: submissive biting her Dom is OK??? - 2/15/2007 2:25:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		It is a fine line that separates us from the beasties. Most beasties express affection through biting. So... you and me baby are nuthin but mammals so lets do it like they do it on the discovery channel.
 

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RE: submissive biting her Dom is OK??? - 2/15/2007 2:29:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		mmmm ... my Dom/hubby lets me bite him, scratch him and choke him ... but only during sex.  The deal is ... when he knows I am in a *mood* and he is okay with it, he takes my collar off I can be me and I can be a bit more agressive in bed, because he likes that confidence that I am able to display every now and then (usually I am very nervous or worried).

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RE: submissive biting her Dom is OK??? - 2/15/2007 2:31:53 PM   
MasterMataeo


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Status: offline 		at one time i had a young slave thqat really enjoyed bitting me and well i hve to say  by her actions , the way , where and how hard, > she bit me let me know what else she was in the mood for ,, for her it was a form of communication ,, she was a bit on the shy side , untill she was all worked up, and well bitting would be just fine  if the Dom/Mster allowed it,, and in my cases i do

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RE: submissive biting her Dom is OK??? - 2/15/2007 2:36:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		My feeling on the matter is that it's okay for my girl to bite me during sex... provided she doesn't do it too often. I'm one of those people who's very, very twitchy about being bitten - not because I see it as a threat to my dominance, but because I'm fully aware of the kind of damage my own teeth and jaws can do. Even after 15 months with my girl, I get jumpy if she's near my neck; in fact, just thinking about someone biting me puts me in a very twitchy, looking-over-my-shoulder-just-in-case kind of mood. There are times, in the heat of passion, that it's great (usually when we're in the middle of a primal scene)... but the rest of the time, it's an instant mood-killer because I go fight-or-flight defensive.

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RE: submissive biting her Dom is OK??? - 2/15/2007 2:47:12 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: onestandingstill

Thanks Fukin Troll & LA for all the forums.
And thanks everyone else for your answers.
LOL I'm still sitting here with my eyes wide, my eyebrows up and this blank you've got to be kidding look on my face.
I really never considered this before today, and I'd still not consider this is something I'd do myself without being ordered to.
Even if I was ordered to do this I think I'd think my Dom was a little switchy.


Now MY eyebrows are up...everyone is certainly entitled to their opinion.  Let me state mine. 

Some of the threads you've been pointed to will certainly give you opinions that match mine...and some that match yours. 
Dominance is NOT the same thing as sadism or even being a top.  Granted, it usually works out that most dominants also tend to be the ones who like inflicting pain, hence they are the ones into sadism.  But...having a strong bent towards sadism does not necessarily preclude you from not enjoying any type of received pain a sexual manner which would be masochistic, even if just slightly.  Many dominant males...hell, many vanilla males...love being scratched hard across their backs when they are heartily boffing their submissive.  I think most would see this as painful...and yet, the ones that enjoy it also see it as sexually arousing and an enhancement of the boffing.  Are they now "switches" because they enjoy this?  Or have they gone to a deeper, primal level where the instincts that have taken over...even while the dominant remains in control...are more animal-like? 
And...though they may be few....not sure how a person would find out as I don't believe statistics are kept on this...I would be willing to bet that there are probably a few dominants who are as masochistic as they are sadistic or even masochistic entirely while still retaining every bit of their dominant nature.  Dominance is an enhancement of BDSM and/or sexual play, just as submission is...it is not in and of itself a description of the type of sexual behavior that is enjoyed.

EDITED TO ADD....I myself like being bitten.  Not hard enough to draw blood and, given my occupation, certainly not in any area liable to be seen...but hard enough occasionally to cause a bit of a wince is O.K. WHEN done at the appropriate times.  And no, I am not a switch and I totally love and am fairly good at expressing my sadistic nature....I can point you to people that will support those statements and I doubt that you would find any of them that would do anything but raise their own eyebrows were you to state that I am "switchy" because I like being bitten. 


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RE: submissive biting her Dom is OK??? - 2/15/2007 3:01:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		onestandingstill, i saw that thread, and had the same reaction you did regarding those responses. to me, being Dominant or being submissive are overall personality traits, not "bdsm enhancements", so when i hear that a submissive likes to bite someone or that a Dominant likes to be bitten, it leaves me scratching my head too. i had the same reaction when i read somewhere on this site about a Dominant who liked to occasionally be spanked and whipped by his slave. i'm like, huh? what the bleep??

but then i remind myself that many do not define Dominant and submissive as i do, that for many they are simply roles or just another aspect to their bdsm play, and not necessarily personality traits. when i remember that, it starts to make a little more sense to me.

btw, if i ever bit my Master, however "passionate" the moment, his immediate and instinctive reaction would be to give me a quick punch in the mouth. not that i would ever try lol.

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RE: submissive biting her Dom is OK??? - 2/15/2007 3:19:24 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: daddysprop247

onestandingstill, i saw that thread, and had the same reaction you did regarding those responses. to me, being Dominant or being submissive are overall personality traits, not "bdsm enhancements", so when i hear that a submissive likes to bite someone or that a Dominant likes to be bitten, it leaves me scratching my head too. i had the same reaction when i read somewhere on this site about a Dominant who liked to occasionally be spanked and whipped by his slave. i'm like, huh? what the bleep??

but then i remind myself that many do not define Dominant and submissive as i do, that for many they are simply roles or just another aspect to their bdsm play, and not necessarily personality traits. when i remember that, it starts to make a little more sense to me.

btw, if i ever bit my Master, however "passionate" the moment, his immediate and instinctive reaction would be to give me a quick punch in the mouth. not that i would ever try lol.


Perhaps you should not take things quite so literally...or if you do so, understand the alliteration.  I stated that dominance or submission enhance bedroom activities.  The verb (or action word) is "enhance"...not dominance or submission.  Dominance and submission are the nouns (the ones doing the action).

I don't confine my dominance to bedroom play only.  I am...and have been in the D/s relationships I've been in...dominant all the time including dominance over aspects of my submissive's life such as her finances and her health and other areas that had nothing to do with bedroom activities or BDSM play.  So my dominance is not a role I play at.

I still like being bitten, in the manner I described.  What does that do to your perceived notion of what makes sense and what doesn't?  Oddly enough...you are the one putting a dominant into a role that is defined by the bedroom only. 

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RE: submissive biting her Dom is OK??? - 2/15/2007 3:28:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		CreativeDominant, it could just be a simple case of miscommunication. from your wording, it seemed as if you were saying that dominance and submission were "ehancements" to bdsm, and when i think of an enhancement i think of something that is not a constant or a natural state. if that is not the way you meant it, then my apologies for misunderstanding.
however on the topic of biting, i still would question the dominance (and by this i mean personality wise) of a person who wished to or enjoyed being bitten sexually, just as i would question the submissiveness of one who wished to or enjoyed doing this to another. i'm confused as to how you feel i'm putting a Dominant into the role of bedroom only?.....as i've said many times, i feel that one's D/s nature is a core personality trait, so therefore would encompass all aspects of one's life.

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