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Is time linear or circular? - 2/15/2007 7:43:00 PM

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Or maybe something else?
If there is such a thing as "eternity" then wouldn't time have to be circular?

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RE: Is time linear or circular? - 2/15/2007 7:45:45 PM

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Time is something that does not exist really.

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RE: Is time linear or circular? - 2/15/2007 7:48:52 PM

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Time is fluid. It puddles when you have nothing to do, and dries up whtn you are busy or need more of it. Time is definately fluid.

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RE: Is time linear or circular? - 2/15/2007 7:51:40 PM

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Or maybe something else?
If there is such a thing as "eternity" then wouldn't time have to be circular?

I was thinking time was banana shaped.

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RE: Is time linear or circular? - 2/15/2007 7:53:25 PM

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Neither, and yet Both.

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RE: Is time linear or circular? - 2/15/2007 7:55:24 PM

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I always do bad with these types of questions. I did read, however, that scientists have identified as many as 13 dimensions - only 4 of which humans can perceive (which has me wondering how they "discovered" they exist, but maybe I am just too uneducated as far as physics goes, to be able to fathom that). I don't think we get to find out for sure until we die, popeye. Then, I think we go to another dimension altogether.

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RE: Is time linear or circular? - 2/15/2007 8:00:18 PM

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They "discovered" them on a blackboard. Using Math. Then they fight over what the data from experiments mean, in relationship to their hypothesis.

Last Hypothesis Standing gets promoted to Theory.

In any event, they're only models to try to integrate all we know, and as such very limited by the limits on our perception.

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RE: Is time linear or circular? - 2/15/2007 8:02:48 PM

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Time is an artificial representation of reality. I live within it's confines when I must, but I refuse to wear a wristwatch and strap it to my body.

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RE: Is time linear or circular? - 2/15/2007 8:03:09 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: SusanofO

I always do bad with these types of questions. I did read, however, that scientists have identified as many as 13 dimesions - only 4 of which humans can perceive (which has me wondering how they "discovered" they exist, but maybe I am just to uneducated as far as physics goes,to be able to fathom that). I don't think we get to find out for sure until we die, popeye. The I think we go to another dimension altogether.

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Hello Susan,

As farglebargle pointed out, string theory and the mathematical attempts to tie this to quantum mechanics have been forced to posit more than 4 dimensions in order for their calculations to work out.

Which is not to say it is incorrect, but there are issues attempting to prove it as a species which only acknowledges sensory inputs which happen in 4 dimensions.

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RE: Is time linear or circular? - 2/15/2007 8:03:53 PM

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Time is something that does not exist really.

Aristotle has a very convincing arguement for why time both cannot exist, yet at the same time must exist. Its in his book Metaphysics

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RE: Is time linear or circular? - 2/15/2007 8:06:22 PM

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http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/aristotle-metaphysics/

http://classics.mit.edu/Aristotle/metaphysics.html

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RE: Is time linear or circular? - 2/15/2007 8:09:26 PM

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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

They "discovered" them on a blackboard. Using Math. Then they fight over what the data from experiments mean, in relationship to their hypothesis.

Last Hypothesis Standing gets promoted to Theory.

In any event, they're only models to try to integrate all we know, and as such very limited by the limits on our perception.

I agree with whatever fargle says here, I can't think that hard tonight.
I trust him...heh heh

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RE: Is time linear or circular? - 2/15/2007 8:10:55 PM

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I have many half-baked theories of life, and one of them is that an unheralded trauma of adulthood is the shift from linear to circular time.

By that I mean that the school years flow in an orderly procession. First grade gives way to second, second gives way to third, and so forth. Each stage (in theory, at least) brings a bit more accomplishment, and one feels that progress is the natural way of things.

Then one graduates and enters the work force. Suddenly, time becomes circular. Day after day, year after year are largely the same. Progress ceases to be a rhythm; instead, one must exert serious effort to bring about change.

I graduated in 1985, and I think I'm still getting used to circular time!

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RE: Is time linear or circular? - 2/15/2007 8:11:14 PM

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Fargle!! I was hoping somebody would actually pick up the book and read it the old fashioned way...by turning pages rather than scrolling

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RE: Is time linear or circular? - 2/15/2007 8:11:41 PM

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There was a psychic in the first part of the 20th century by the name of Edgar Cayce who had some interesting things to say about time and many other things.
Anyone heard of him?
Interesting replies so far, thanks.

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RE: Is time linear or circular? - 2/15/2007 8:12:38 PM

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Time is definately linear and the line never ends ----------->

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RE: Is time linear or circular? - 2/15/2007 8:13:00 PM

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farglebarlge and Sinergy: Thanks for answering my quesiton - the disvcovery of 13 dimensions did have me wondering.

popeye: I've heard of Edgar Cayce (the psychic and medium)- I think he led a very intriuging life.

- Susan

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RE: Is time linear or circular? - 2/15/2007 8:13:25 PM

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They "discovered" them on a blackboard. Using Math. Then they fight over what the data from experiments mean, in relationship to their hypothesis.

Last Hypothesis Standing gets promoted to Theory.

In any event, they're only models to try to integrate all we know, and as such very limited by the limits on our perception.

I agree with whatever fargle says here, I can't think that hard tonight.
I trust him...heh heh

Don't.

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RE: Is time linear or circular? - 2/15/2007 8:14:14 PM

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Fargle!! I was hoping somebody would actually pick up the book and read it the old fashioned way...by turning pages rather than scrolling

Nope, you wont ever catch me sitting under a crane, bored out of my skull, expressing my morpheme, and reading a book about quantum mechanics.

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RE: Is time linear or circular? - 2/15/2007 8:15:19 PM

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Fargle!! I was hoping somebody would actually pick up the book and read it the old fashioned way...by turning pages rather than scrolling

What, and have to go to a library, or bookstore. I got a copy on the bookshelf behind me, but STILL pulled up mit.

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