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defiantbadgirl -> RE: Dominant Asking For Submissive to Be BiSexual (2/18/2007 1:42:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MzMia

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ORIGINAL: BRNaughtyAngel

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ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl

I have to disagree with "or else". A sub always has the option to leave if he/she not bisexual. What creeps me out is the fact that people who have done this call themselves straight. Some of us women don't want a man who has ever sucked another man's cock for any reason.


I realize from reading your responses to other threads that you tend to see things in a very black and white light.  If that works for you, then more power to you. 

But for a different perspective, you may want to take a jaunt over to the Shape of Submission thread and read Puella's response to Sly. 



I am also a fairly black and white thinker.  Aren't we allowed to exist in the community?  I know we may not be the majority,
but some of us don't see as many shades of gray.  I talk to men all the time on here that believe in that "forced bisexual" agenda.
I just don't buy it, I have met straight men and it is a hard limit for them.  Limits are created for a reason, and hard limits should not
be crossed.  Now, if it is NOT a limit, then that is something else.


And if it's not a hard limit, the guy is bisexual or at least bi-curious.




MzMia -> RE: Dominant Asking For Submissive to Be BiSexual (2/18/2007 1:42:45 PM)

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ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl

Everyone sees a few things in black and white. That doesn't mean they see everything in black and white. I have two female friends who are bi. I just don't want to be more than friends with anyone who is bi. Unfortunately, it's difficult to find a male sub who has never performed a bisexual act.


It has been very hard for me badgirl, many of the submissive men on CM are begging for it--->but many want to be
forced into it.[:D]




mnottertail -> RE: Dominant Asking For Submissive to Be BiSexual (2/18/2007 1:44:05 PM)

LOL,

This is now abaft the beam, it should be entitled the color of submission, what you think Fukin?

Ron




FukinTroll -> RE: Dominant Asking For Submissive to Be BiSexual (2/18/2007 1:44:49 PM)

Agreed!




defiantbadgirl -> RE: Dominant Asking For Submissive to Be BiSexual (2/18/2007 1:49:34 PM)

Disgusting huh. It seems like almost every male sub I talk to claims to be straight until asked if they have ever sucked another man's cock for a mistress. I married a man and didn't find out till later that he had lied about his sexual orientation. I never want to be in that situation again.




MzMia -> RE: Dominant Asking For Submissive to Be BiSexual (2/18/2007 1:50:56 PM)

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ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl

Disgusting huh. It seems like almost every male sub I talk to claims to be straight until asked if they have ever sucked another man's cock for a mistress. I married a man and didn't find out till later that he had lied about his sexual orientation. I never want to be in that situation again.


ssshhhh you are letting some ancient chinese secrets out! sshhhh
But in all seriousness I am sorry that happened to you, and I don't blame you for being vigilant.
Unfortunately many men tend to lie about their sexual history and many are in denial.
Good luck.




mnottertail -> RE: Dominant Asking For Submissive to Be BiSexual (2/18/2007 1:53:22 PM)

LOL, so when you suck a dick, it is glorious, when some male submissive sucks one it is time to bring out the garbage bags as condoms?

LOLOLOLOL,






defiantbadgirl -> RE: Dominant Asking For Submissive to Be BiSexual (2/18/2007 1:56:24 PM)

No, it's time to kick him to the curb because he's not straight.




MzMia -> RE: Dominant Asking For Submissive to Be BiSexual (2/18/2007 1:57:03 PM)

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ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl

No, it's time to kick him to the curb because he's not straight.


^5 lol[:D]




BRNaughtyAngel -> RE: Dominant Asking For Submissive to Be BiSexual (2/18/2007 1:58:04 PM)

Not being a dominant or switch female, I can't comment on possible suppressed sub male bisexual tendancies, nor would I try.

I'm not even talking about the bisexual situation at all. 

If you read Puella's response to Sly in the other thread, she addresses the emotional and mental state of submission a sub/slave is in to her dominant and how that affects what she is willing to do for him. 






blmtrsne -> RE: Dominant Asking For Submissive to Be BiSexual (2/18/2007 4:02:26 PM)

I want my sub close to me and don't think about pushing him into a bisexual experiance. But on the other hand I got his gift of submission 24/7, 100%. So, if I ever saw a reason to make him interact with another male, it wqould just be my desicion. And he should be happy because he trusts my judgment.




juliaoceania -> RE: Dominant Asking For Submissive to Be BiSexual (2/18/2007 4:19:41 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BRNaughtyAngel

Not being a dominant or switch female, I can't comment on possible suppressed sub male bisexual tendancies, nor would I try.

I'm not even talking about the bisexual situation at all. 

If you read Puella's response to Sly in the other thread, she addresses the emotional and mental state of submission a sub/slave is in to her dominant and how that affects what she is willing to do for him. 





I have not read the response yet, but I plan to.

As far as shades of gray and bisexuality, I am wondering how anyone could read some of the responses on this thread where one submissive talked about almost throwing up because she did not want to go down on a woman, but did it as a form of submission.

I would ask defiantbadgirl, is everyone that takes pain for their dominant a masochist even though they hated every minute of it?

I have no problem with people thinking I am bisexual because I would contemplate doing this for my Daddy. I do not think there is anything wrong with being straight, bi, or gay... I am thinking from her posts that defiantbadgirl does think something is morally inferior about people who are this way... and that friends is just small.




defiantbadgirl -> RE: Dominant Asking For Submissive to Be BiSexual (2/18/2007 8:39:26 PM)

I don't think there is anything morally inferior about someone who is gay, lesbian, or bisexual. Because I am straight, same sex relations are disgusting to me. Homosexuals find sexual relations with the opposite gender disgusting or they wouldn't be homosexual. Bisexuals find both sexes appealing. That doesn't mean anyone is morally inferior. Just means they are different in their sexual desires. Just because I find someone else's sexual activities disgusting doesn't mean I can't like them as a person and be their friend. I simply dislike people who lie about their sexual orientation. Many male subs perform bisexual acts, yet list themselves as straight when they should be honest and say they are bisexual. I'm sure the same can be said about some female subs. My point is, nobody should lie about their sexual orientation. Potential partners have a right to know such things before becoming involved with them.




juliaoceania -> RE: Dominant Asking For Submissive to Be BiSexual (2/18/2007 8:46:54 PM)

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ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl

I don't think there is anything morally inferior about someone who is gay, lesbian, or bisexual. Because I am straight, same sex relations are disgusting to me.

You posted your opinion about how you would not do this for anyone you were involved with... we got that a couple of pages ago.

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Homosexuals find sexual relations with the opposite gender disgusting or they wouldn't be homosexual


How many gay people do you know, and have you polled them on this?

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Just because I find someone else's sexual activities disgusting doesn't mean I can't like them as a person and be their friend. I simply dislike people who lie about their sexual orientation.


And how is this relevant to the topic of the thread?

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Many male subs perform bisexual acts, yet list themselves as straight when they should be honest and say they are bisexual


Again what does that have to do with the topic of this thread?

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My point is, nobody should lie about their sexual orientation. Potential partners have a right to know such things before becoming involved with them.


Again, what does that have to do with this topic of the thread.

If you wanted to state that as a switch bisexuality turns you off and you do not want to be with someone who wants you to be bisexual and you would not ever ask a sub to be bisexual, that is one thing.. but post after post after post talking about how disgusting bisexuals are on a thread about doing bisexual acts as a form of submission is 1) at least hijacking 2) kinda offensive to people who are bisexual or are contemplating bisexuality in their submission...(my opinion)




defiantbadgirl -> RE: Dominant Asking For Submissive to Be BiSexual (2/18/2007 8:51:08 PM)

Never said it had anything to do with this thread. You asked a question and I answered it.




juliaoceania -> RE: Dominant Asking For Submissive to Be BiSexual (2/18/2007 8:55:27 PM)

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ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl

I have to disagree with "or else". A sub always has the option to leave if he/she not bisexual. What creeps me out is the fact that people who have done this call themselves straight. Some of us women don't want a man who has ever sucked another man's cock for any reason.


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Everyone sees a few things in black and white. That doesn't mean they see everything in black and white. I have two female friends who are bi. I just don't want to be more than friends with anyone who is bi. Unfortunately, it's difficult to find a male sub who has never performed a bisexual act.


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And if it's not a hard limit, the guy is bisexual or at least bi-curious.


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Disgusting huh. It seems like almost every male sub I talk to claims to be straight until asked if they have ever sucked another man's cock for a mistress. I married a man and didn't find out till later that he had lied about his sexual orientation. I never want to be in that situation again


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No, it's time to kick him to the curb because he's not straight



It was these posts I was addressing, not the one in response to me.




defiantbadgirl -> RE: Dominant Asking For Submissive to Be BiSexual (2/18/2007 8:57:49 PM)

I apologize to anyone I might have offended. The thread topic is about performing bisexual acts for one's partner. I said I wouldn't do it. Someone agreed with me, so we started answering each other back and forth. I wasn't trying to offend anyone.




juliaoceania -> RE: Dominant Asking For Submissive to Be BiSexual (2/18/2007 9:03:01 PM)

I am sorry I got offended. It just struck me wrong because many people were sharing their experiences and it is hard to do that when someone is talking about how disgusting it is




defiantbadgirl -> RE: Dominant Asking For Submissive to Be BiSexual (2/18/2007 9:05:06 PM)

Just out of curiosity, why did you wait until after I answered your question to say anything? By the way, the fact that you would consider this doesn't make you bisexual, just bi-curious.




juliaoceania -> RE: Dominant Asking For Submissive to Be BiSexual (2/18/2007 9:07:20 PM)

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ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl

Just out of curiosity, why did you wait until after I answered your question to say anything?


I do not understand the question




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