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defiantbadgirl -> RE: Dominant Asking For Submissive to Be BiSexual (2/18/2007 9:12:34 PM)
Well, this person and I had been posting back and forth on here for awhile. You're right when you say I shouldn't have used this post to do that. I just wondered why you never said anything before this.

juliaoceania -> RE: Dominant Asking For Submissive to Be BiSexual (2/18/2007 9:18:54 PM)
I was at work and then I was talking and posting on other threads with my Daddy

hisannabelle -> RE: Dominant Asking For Submissive to Be BiSexual (2/18/2007 10:42:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl No, it's time to kick him to the curb because he's not straight. my previous dominant had -no- inclination for me to have any bisexual encounters at all. i identify as bisexual, he knows that, he's known that i've been with other women in the past, but it was a case of my submission being deeper than my orientation when i accepted his collar. i'm very glad he didn't subscribe to your method of doing things, otherwise we both would have missed out on an incredibly fulfilling relationship and an experience that helped us both to grow.

eyesopened -> RE: Dominant Asking For Submissive to Be BiSexual (2/19/2007 2:34:17 AM)
to no one in particular: Bisexual to me would mean a sexual attraction to either sex and a bisexual woman would actively seek women to have sex with on her own without any 'prompting' by someone else. Any woman who performs with same sex just to please a Man isn't, in my opinion, bisexual, but perhaps adventurous. i've tried it for that very reason. i didn't like it, in fact i hated it. But at least i tried it and i deserve a cookie for that LOL. i am surprised how people know that sexuality in terms of gay or straight are not choices but somehow BI is a choice?? i don't remember choosing to be heterosexual. None of my gay friends CHOSE to be gay. How many 'bisexual' women would seek out women for sex if not prompted to do so? All the porn not withstanding only those who raise their hands are really bisexual.

SusanofO -> RE: Dominant Asking For Submissive to Be BiSexual (2/19/2007 2:42:57 AM)
I agree. I can't believe how many supposedly intelligent people I've met who still believe that sexual orientation is a choice. I just could never reconcile that idea in my own head with the discrimination that many homosexuals, for example, seem to face. My question was always: Why would they choose that sexuual orientation, knowing how much heart-ache they'd eventually maybe have to face? It just never made sense to me (and still doesn't). I believe sexual orientation must be biologically determined. But yeah, it goes without saying someone probably shouldn't be lying about it. However, given the discrimination some gay people face, I can understand why it happens (even if it's wrong). - Susan

twicehappy -> RE: Dominant Asking For Submissive to Be BiSexual (2/19/2007 3:33:02 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: eyesopened How many 'bisexual' women would seek out women for sex if not prompted to do so? I have, women are beautiful, i find much about them attractive. My first lesbian experience had nothing to do with a man, she was just excruciatingly desirable to me. I think that while there are women who do bi strictly at their owners request they find it easier to do so because there just isn't as big a stigma attached to being a bi female as there is to being a bi male. I also wonder how many male subbies who do bi do it strictly for their owners pleasure? You would be surprised at the number of male subbies i have spoken to who have admitted they list bi and or cross dressing because of the number of dommes who appear to be interested in it. Though their numbers are probably not as great as the number of female subbies who list that they are bisexual for the same reason.

agirl -> RE: Dominant Asking For Submissive to Be BiSexual (2/19/2007 8:27:55 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: eyesopened to no one in particular: Bisexual to me would mean a sexual attraction to either sex and a bisexual woman would actively seek women to have sex with on her own without any 'prompting' by someone else. Any woman who performs with same sex just to please a Man isn't, in my opinion, bisexual, but perhaps adventurous. i've tried it for that very reason. i didn't like it, in fact i hated it. But at least i tried it and i deserve a cookie for that LOL. i am surprised how people know that sexuality in terms of gay or straight are not choices but somehow BI is a choice?? i don't remember choosing to be heterosexual. None of my gay friends CHOSE to be gay. How many 'bisexual' women would seek out women for sex if not prompted to do so? All the porn not withstanding only those who raise their hands are really bisexual. I'm heterosexual and wouldn't SEEK out a female for sex.........but if a situation arose where there was the possibility that I could experience it, I might choose to, simply FOR that experience. I wonder what it's like to eat oysters, I wonder what it's like to do a lot of things........so I try them.....not necessarily to see if I LIKE it but to simply see what it's like to DO it. agirl

MasterMataeo -> RE: Dominant Asking For Submissive to Be BiSexual (2/19/2007 9:14:37 AM)
Limints were set in the begining and should be respected,, nomatter how long they have been together,, only the sub/slave should lift the limits and only if she /he feels comfor\table doing so and talking with her/his Master/Dom,,, if the desire is not ther then its not ,, you cant force the issue, for if you do all respect /trust maybe lost,, Remember it "takes two"

BunnySoft -> RE: Dominant Asking For Submissive to Be BiSexual (2/19/2007 1:03:25 PM)
ah so this is what prompted the trainwreck of a thread started by the homophobic chic down in ask a sub. i am bisexual but i don't seek out having sex with women so maybe i'm really straight and in denial? i will add my amen to the choirs chorus that a strictly straight sub-slave wishing to be obedient and pleasing to her master by having sex with another female for his pleasure or entertainment is not bisexual or bicurious. she is simply a pleasing, obedient sub-slave.

mnottertail -> RE: Dominant Asking For Submissive to Be BiSexual (2/19/2007 1:05:45 PM)
No, it is less complicated than that.

SimplyMichael -> RE: Dominant Asking For Submissive to Be BiSexual (2/19/2007 1:42:39 PM)
First time I ever had two submissive women together, I was very new to all this. Didn't take me long to grab one by the hair and shove her face between the other ones legs. It was hot then, it is hot now.

ownedgirlie -> RE: Dominant Asking For Submissive to Be BiSexual (2/19/2007 2:07:56 PM)
~ Fast Reply ~ Wow I'm coming in late to this party. Great thread, Julia, once again some thought provoking posts to mull over. This will happen in my future. I do not classify myself as bisexual because I do not know if I am or not. I really don't care about the label either way, actually. If Master wishes me to be a with a girl, then that's what I do. I'm excited about the prospect - maybe I'll love it, maybe I won't love it. I've certainly done things for him before that would have otherwise repulsed me, but for him they take on a whole new meaning. Whether or not any difficult act is disturbing, or disruptive to one's core, I believe has a lot to do with how it is handled by the person in control of the act. I know going into such activity in my own situation, that both the other girl (whomever she may be) and I will both fully know what is expected of us, our eyes will be wide open, we will likely have come to know each other, and we will both understand where we fit/what our place is with my Master and with each other. Fears and concerns will have been worked through, and all parties will be ready prior to engaging. Otherwise there is simply too much room for issues to come up, and my Master would rather enjoy himself than worry about cleaning up a messy aftermath. I knew going into this relationship that eventually this would be required of me. But he doesn't put on me what he isn't confident I could deal with, so like anything else he requires of me, it occurs when he decides it ought to. Once I do this, does that make me bisexual? Heck if I know....or care! It makes me a happy slave to my Master, which is the more important category for me to be in.

misotara -> RE: Dominant Asking For Submissive to Be BiSexual (2/19/2007 2:49:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: juliaoceania I have had this curiousity building in me about something I have seen on profiles here, and some debating with others about this topic...what do you think of requiring a submissive to engage in bisexual activities if it was understood between the two that she was not bisexual at the beginning of the dynamic? By this I mean at the beginning there was no expressed desire for her to be bisexual, and that was the way the relationship started. What do you think of the dominant asking for this limit to be released? Does the motivation for him asking for this matter? Would it matter if it was because he just desired her to release all such limits to him, or some other trust building experience he was working on acheiving through this? What are your thoughts? Personally, it would matter to me if a person I was engaged in a relationship with suddenly decided that the my own sexual orientation was to change. I would like to point out though that being straight, bisexual, or completly gay would not be listed as a limit for me though, but more as a fact that is not going to change. Period.

DominaSmartass -> RE: Dominant Asking For Submissive to Be BiSexual (2/19/2007 3:52:46 PM)
My response to this (the OP - I'm coming into this one late in the game) is merely hypothetical since I am neither a sub nor bisexual. But, if I were a sub and this happened to me I would not have so much trouble engaging in acts with another woman for my dom's sake as I would if I was not allowed to choose the woman and was expected to just get it on with whomever he brought home. Then again, I probably wouldn't be involved with someone who felt that sex acts were so casual that "sharing" was permitted under all but the most special circumstances. I have nothing against people who are poly, I'm just not sure I'm wired that way. And even if I were, it's more to be in a small group of 3 or maybe 4 who are exclusive amongst each other, rather than to fool around with someone casually.

barefootgal -> RE: Dominant Asking For Submissive to Be BiSexual (2/19/2007 4:01:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl Because I am straight, same sex relations are disgusting to me. Nope. If I can recall Logic 101 from college, I don't think that is an accurate connection to make. Same sex relations are disgusting to you and you are straight. Not because you are straight. Lots and lots of straight people don't find same sex relations disgusting. They just aren't interested in having them. Or maybe they would be willing under the right circumstances, but wouldn't choose the activity on their own. Gender and sexuality are not as binary as you seem to think they are.

Sinergy -> RE: Dominant Asking For Submissive to Be BiSexual (2/19/2007 5:52:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: domiguy I think all of you women need to stop debating about the "whys" or whether you consider yourselves to be bi or not....and just start posting those pics with your faces smiling and looking like a glazed donut....aaauuughmmmmm...donuts! Why arent they smiling like a donut? Add the glaze a bit later. Sinergy

Sinergy -> RE: Dominant Asking For Submissive to Be BiSexual (2/19/2007 5:55:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: barefootgal Gender and sexuality are not as binary as you seem to think they are. Welcome to the underlying theme of Second Wave Feminism. Sinergy

barefootgal -> RE: Dominant Asking For Submissive to Be BiSexual (2/19/2007 5:58:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sinergy quote: ORIGINAL: barefootgal Gender and sexuality are not as binary as you seem to think they are. Welcome to the underlying theme of Second Wave Feminism. Sinergy Yes, and?

Sinergy -> RE: Dominant Asking For Submissive to Be BiSexual (2/19/2007 6:01:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: barefootgal quote: ORIGINAL: Sinergy quote: ORIGINAL: barefootgal Gender and sexuality are not as binary as you seem to think they are. Welcome to the underlying theme of Second Wave Feminism. Sinergy Yes, and? You are spot on, barefootgal. Second Wave Feminism dealt with sexuality and sexual freedom, whereas Feminism 20 years prior dealt with work and voting rights. I was simply agreeing with you. Sinergy

ExSteelAgain -> RE: Dominant Asking For Submissive to Be BiSexual (2/19/2007 6:40:13 PM)
Which brings us full circle to Third Wave Feminism and "The Queer Theory." PS.... Riot Grrrl, where are you when we need you?

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