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ORIGINAL: SirDominic


agirl "Basically someone is trustworthy when YOU think they are."

I couldn't disagree more. Indeed this is the most significant basis for my concern. A person is not automatically trustworthy just because someone decides they are. It depends on the good judgement of the person making that decision to trust. Some choose wisely, many others do not.

Namaste, Sir Dominic

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ORIGINAL: SirDominic

You yourself put your opinions in doubt by fluffing off DarkDreams question about your Master telling you to murder someone.

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Let's tone it down and simply say what if he asked you to do something illegal that could end up with a jail sentence if caught. Your ducking this question does not serve your argument well.

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It's not, would he ever actually ask such a thing, the question is what would you do if he did ask it of you. Yes it is a hypothetical; that does not make it an invalid question.

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What I guess this boils down to for me is what often happens when a generalization is made on these forums. There are always some who will say it isn't true for them, hence the generalization is false. That does not follow. There will always be exceptions to the rule. It doesn't make the generalization false overall.

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p.s. You don't have to agree for us to agree to disagree. I say that as a joke!

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ORIGINAL: SirDominic

Julia, I dont think it is as simple as that. I do agree that many people make mistakes because they trust others to tell them what to do instead of trusting their instincts. But just as often a person's own instincts are skewed, whether it be from past emotional (or physical) injuries, or simply because they never learned to choose well.

Look at all the books addressing the issue of why smart women choose jerks for mates. More times than not it is the woman's decision making capabilities that are impaired. Society has taught them to make choices on the wrong criteria; their gut instincts are their worst enemy (at least in this aspect of their lives).

Whether or not to trust your inner voices can be tricky, depending on who you are.

Namaste, Sir Dominic

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

You know I have not read of many examples of slaves murdering for their masters, although women in rare instances will do such things.. I find it rather troubling this is always the first and only example thrown out there.

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ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie

I think you missed the part where she said every question was asked before becoming his slave, and I would venture to guess such questions included things like whether or not he's an advocate of using slaves to murder people.  I know I included that in the questions I asked my own Master.  This is why for those of us who see slavery as absolute submission in all things, it is imperitive to choose wisely who we give ourselves to.

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ORIGINAL: DarkDreams123

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ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie

I think you missed the part where she said every question was asked before becoming his slave, and I would venture to guess such questions included things like whether or not he's an advocate of using slaves to murder people.  I know I included that in the questions I asked my own Master.  This is why for those of us who see slavery as absolute submission in all things, it is imperitive to choose wisely who we give ourselves to.

Hi OwnedGirlie,

You are saying that you anticipated every possible situation that you and your Master might get into? No need to continue to use your brain after you made your decision to trust your Master?

Is life for you so static?

-Dark Dreams

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why the hostility?

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania
You have repeatedly lambasted those who do not approve of restraining people that are left alone, and other activities.

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Why does it make me a "nazi" to say I do not feel safe and it is not acceptable to tie me up all day alone? I have read your profile and the saftey mechanisms that you sugggest, and to be frank with you it would not work for me. My Daddy has better things to do with me than that anyways (our opinion). Why does it matter that you cannot sway others from their opinions? I have a lot of opinions I will not be swayed from, that does not make me a Nazi.. I will reiterate, everyone in your house "consents", I could give a rat's ass.... and I doubt that those who you are trying to sway really care either.

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Why does it bother you so much that people set up measures to try to be safe? I do not get you at all.. it is just weird. It seems you have the problem with people that want to be safe, not the other way around. Why does it matter a hill of beans to you that others set up measures for saftey... and btw, as long as they have not killed anyone, I do not possibly see why you feel the need to shoot them down. Like I said, you are the one that is trying to dictate to others how they should play, not the other way around from what I have seen.
Play anyway you like with your consenting property.

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ORIGINAL: daddysprop247

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above, you imply that a Dominant who would leave a bound submissive alone is irresponsible and uncaring. i think that is the sort of thing aSlavesLife was referring to, about "safety nazis." there is nothing wrong with people deciding that they are going to take certain overt safety precautions, or even with demanding that such precautions be taken if you are an unowned submissive. the problem arises when these people negatively label and judge those who do not follow the same precautions (and often assume no precautions are taken at all).
my Master has left me alone, bound, blindfolded, gagged, several times, the longest for about an hour i think (hard to say because i tend to zone out at those times). i suppose the house could have burned down. or more likely, i could have choked choked to death on the gag, maybe drowned in my own vomit, who knows. so yes, there are real risks. not highly probable, but possible. however my Master is far from uncaring, ...

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania
I am not one to think I know what anyone experiences inside their relationships or if they are healthy or not, and I do not think you do either. My views are entirely consistent... basically if people are happy and consenting I do not have much to say about it...I think it is hubris to judge other people for what they consensually do. Now I am not comfortable with what everyone does, and guess what? I do not have to be.

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania
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You know I do not think I have ever addressed how you treat your slave. I have read your profile and found it slightly interesting, but your attitude toward people who prize being as safe as possible is sort of perplexing.
If your slave consents to being put in dangerous situations that most of us would find questionable in our own lives.. well that is her choice, she consented, and personally I do not give a rat's ass as long as everyone consents. I am not a nazi because I think that people should have informed consent of what will be required of them as a submissive/slave. If  some dominant was courting me and said "I will tie you up while I work all day and leave you alone", well I would know that he was not for me.
I am not into the acronyms of RACK or SSC to describe the world. One person's SSC is another person's edge. I will say though that you seem to bash people far more than I have ever seen them bash you. You are extremely combative, judgmental, you generalize quite a bit, and frankly if you are so secure with what you do I wonder why our opinions matter a whit. You are in our faces, daring us to judge you... when in fact perhaps a handful of contributors on this board even have paid attention to how "extreme" you are.

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania
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You know I do not think I have ever addressed how you treat your slave. I have read your profile and found it slightly interesting, but your attitude toward people who prize being as safe as possible is sort of perplexing.
If your slave consents to being put in dangerous situations that most of us would find questionable in our own lives.. well that is her choice, she consented, and personally I do not give a rat's ass as long as everyone consents. I am not a nazi because I think that people should have informed consent of what will be required of them as a submissive/slave. If  some dominant was courting me and said "I will tie you up while I work all day and leave you alone", well I would know that he was not for me.
I am not into the acronyms of RACK or SSC to describe the world. One person's SSC is another person's edge. I will say though that you seem to bash people far more than I have ever seen them bash you. You are extremely combative, judgmental, you generalize quite a bit, and frankly if you are so secure with what you do I wonder why our opinions matter a whit. You are in our faces, daring us to judge you... when in fact perhaps a handful of contributors on this board even have paid attention to how "extreme" you are.

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ORIGINAL: SirDominic

Look at all the books addressing the issue of why smart women choose jerks for mates. More times than not it is the woman's decision making capabilities that are impaired. Society has taught them to make choices on the wrong criteria; their gut instincts are their worst enemy (at least in this aspect of their lives).