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LotusSong -> RE: 'Real doms' (2/27/2007 8:21:58 AM)

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ORIGINAL: GoddessGreed

For alot of men, they pay because that is their fetish, other men dont mind paying.. for a service, if they really didnt want to they wouldnt...im making money out of it and having a great time...they are havin a great time too, otherwise theyd go elsewhere! Call it what you like, but nobody is doin any harm, everyone benefits...its not ilegal, nobodies 'fuckin 14 yr old girls' ( altho what that has to do with it I dont know!) so whats the big deal!!!


I hope a male that is into this fetish will post and tell us what his rush is with it.  Is it self-humiliation?  Could it be to prove to himself that all women"have a price"?



SusanofO -> RE: 'Real doms' (2/27/2007 8:24:56 AM)

There are professional male Dominants who service heterosexual females. I've seen them advertise, and if one wants to peruse the "Professional Services" section here, they can find them. They are few and far between, but they do exist. I have no idea whether many Dominants have "money slaves", but I've heard it mentioned by male Dominants, in passing, on more than one occasion here. EvilGoeff here (a member at CM) has a female partner who financially supports him - and I think  he's a nice guy. However, she is his long-term, live-in partner, and they've worked out that arrangement between them, and it appears to work. Who am I to argue with success? I think it's probably an exception to the rule, but this phenomenon does exist.

- Susan 



GoddessGreed -> RE: 'Real doms' (2/27/2007 8:28:26 AM)

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ORIGINAL: domiguy

This is my argument...You say you are dominant yet I have the feeling (I also already know the op will not validate this) You have routinely lost any form of control cause you are hustlin' for the bucks....Who controls the realtionship the pocket that holds the money or the out stretched hand begging for it?

I have always thought that someone who will allow themself to be purchased for one particular activity will probably do another....They have  already clearly established that they can be bought....(Not referring to you)....So I would imagine in many cases dommes have given head or been fucked because the "Price was Right."

And lastly I don't feel sorry for the men...They are getting what they paid for.

But I would ask how many women who proclaim to be dommes actually are?  I actually think the majority are Pros...Just not dommes.




Id firstly like to point out i have never given head for the right price! lol
I do totally see your point domi, its one i brought up myself in a topic a couple months back..'who is really in control' or something like that!
I wouldnt consider my 'slaves' to be in control just because they are the ones paying, I specify how much I require, and they either pay or they get blocked, its not like i give in to any whining and let them skip a tribute or 2, or pay less than I ask for. So i wouldnt say they are controlling me no.



GoddessGreed -> RE: 'Real doms' (2/27/2007 8:30:51 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LotusSong

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I hope a male that is into this fetish will post and tell us what his rush is with it.  Is it self-humiliation?  Could it be to prove to himself that all women"have a price"?


I believe with alot of men it is the humiliation



WhiplashSmile -> RE: 'Real doms' (2/27/2007 8:38:16 AM)

Oh what the hell, at least you are upfront and honest about it.
If somebody submits and gives you money, it is their choice to do so.  It's not like you lure them in under a false pretense...   A lot of people have moral issues with Talking Dirty, Verbal Humilation, Bondage, Whips and Chains...  Everybody has moral standards of some form or another..   As long as everything is safe and sane and legal.. What the hell why not!  Some Dom/me don't allow a sub/slave to work at all, so they have no financial means as well.   Ummmm.. Oh wait back to that dirty little word again "slave"... 



SusanofO -> RE: 'Real doms' (2/27/2007 8:39:39 AM)

It's the people who have a "Blackmail" fetish who can worry me. I am not saying they have any connection with "money slaves" (although maye some do).

Because I do think they are bent on self-destruction, for whatever reason, and that someone needs to protect them from themselves, because there is no way to tell who else might suffer from them satisfying this fetish. I mean, at least I know if someone beats me to a pulp and I like it, that I am the only one suffering. How do I know if someone is black-mailed, that they won't also ruin the lives of their children, wives, etc.? I wouldn't be able to tell.

By the same token, if someone is going to operate as a money slave, they just might have an obligation to not give away their entire financial security if they have a family to support - and a money Domme might have an equal obligation to not take someone entirely to the cleaners, for the same reason. It's maybe like satisfying someone's gambling addiction, or something. Moderation, I imagine, is key.

- Susan



GoddessGreed -> RE: 'Real doms' (2/27/2007 8:41:23 AM)

exactly! I have never tried to con anyone into believing I am something I am not, I call myself a dom as financial domination is a fetish. I am upfront about what I do, and they can take it or leave it. I am not harming anyone



gooddogbenji -> RE: 'Real doms' (2/27/2007 8:42:27 AM)

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ORIGINAL: domiguy

I have always thought that someone who will allow themself to be purchased for one particular activity will probably do another....They have  already clearly established that they can be bought....(Not referring to you)....So I would imagine in many cases dommes have given head or been fucked because the "Price was Right."


By that logic, you would give your boss head at work, because you allow yourself to be bought for doing real work.

So, really, you say that anyone who gets money is a potential whore.

Does it make me bisexual if I have in the past worked for a guy?

Yours,


benji



domiguy -> RE: 'Real doms' (2/27/2007 8:42:30 AM)

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ORIGINAL: GoddessGreed

quote:

ORIGINAL: LotusSong

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I hope a male that is into this fetish will post and tell us what his rush is with it.  Is it self-humiliation?  Could it be to prove to himself that all women"have a price"?


I believe with alot of men it is the humiliation


I don't know...But dammit I would like to defend my little weak ass subbie brothers....I believe it is that they can pay for you...That it is only money perhaps, depending on the individual, a commodity which might be of no concern...A true test would be to take the money from some sucker that would now cost them the ability to eat or pay for housing etc....I doubt this has ever happened....The money probably means very little..It might be the idea that they are paying someone for contact, or for pleasure...You just happen to be the vibrating bed that costs a quarter.

Another point is there is an extreme posibility you have lost the ability to "be particular" about your partners...You will accept anyone with a wad of cash in their hand...Again not a dominant characteristic...or a characteristic of anyone who puts "value' on themselves.



GoddessGreed -> RE: 'Real doms' (2/27/2007 8:42:58 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SusanofO

It's the people who have a "Blackmail" fetish who worry me.

- Susan


I aint goin there! lol



SusanofO -> RE: 'Real doms' (2/27/2007 8:45:20 AM)

Yeah. I do think it is a separate area from "financial fetishism" or "money slaves" overall - at least that is my impression (but for some, it might be included, who knows?)

- Susan 



GoddessGreed -> RE: 'Real doms' (2/27/2007 8:46:11 AM)

domiguy why do your posts come up as 'awaiting approval?



GoddessGreed -> RE: 'Real doms' (2/27/2007 8:47:40 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SusanofO

Yeah. I do think it is a separate area from "financial fetishism" or "maney slaves" overall - at least that is my impression (but for some, it might be included, who knows?)

- Susan 


just another fetish, and i have no problem with the doms who take advantage of it, its just not for me, as too many legal complications



GoddessGreed -> RE: 'Real doms' (2/27/2007 8:52:07 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SusanofO

It's the people who have a "Blackmail" fetish who can worry me. I am not saying they have any connection with "money slaves" (although maye some do).

Because I do think they are bent on self-destruction, for whatever reason, and that someone needs to protect them from themselves, because there is no way to tell who else might suffer from them satisfying this fetish. I mean, at least I know if someone beats me to a pulp and I like it, that I am the only one suffering. How do I know if someone is black-mailed, that they won't also ruin the lives of their children, wives, etc.? I wouldn't be able to tell.

By the same token, if someone is going to operate as a money slave, they just might have an obligation to not give away their entire financial security if they have a family to support - and a money Domme might have an equal obligation to not take someone entirely to the cleaners, for the same reason. It's maybe like satisfying someone's gambling addiction, or something. Moderation, I imagine, is key.

- Susan


very true...although I may be wrong but I think most men who ask for blackmail are actually gettin off on the thought of being ruined and dont actually intend on going through with it



domiguy -> RE: 'Real doms' (2/27/2007 8:52:37 AM)

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ORIGINAL: gooddogbenji

quote:

ORIGINAL: domiguy

I have always thought that someone who will allow themself to be purchased for one particular activity will probably do another....They have  already clearly established that they can be bought....(Not referring to you)....So I would imagine in many cases dommes have given head or been fucked because the "Price was Right."


By that logic, you would give your boss head at work, because you allow yourself to be bought for doing real work.

So, really, you say that anyone who gets money is a potential whore.

Does it make me bisexual if I have in the past worked for a guy?

Yours,


benji


I should have clarified...You twit!  If someone is getting purchased for one type of "sexual act"...And if the money is there...There is a strong probability they might consider performing another....

I would like to hit your avatar like a ping pong ball.

And yes that does make "you" queer if you ever worked for a male boss.



simplewhispers -> RE: 'Real doms' (2/27/2007 8:54:47 AM)

ok now this is odd to me , is there actual sex involved? and if so taking money for it is not legal am I correct? If sex is involved....... that just sounds like a high profile hooker to me....... course I am new to the life......... could be completely wrong ..



GoddessGreed -> RE: 'Real doms' (2/27/2007 8:56:03 AM)

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ORIGINAL: simplewhispers

ok now this is odd to me , is there actual sex involved? and if so taking money for it is not legal am I correct? If sex is involved....... that just sounds like a high profile hooker to me....... course I am new to the life......... could be completely wrong ..


There is no actual sex involved in what I do, I do online only



SusanofO -> RE: 'Real doms' (2/27/2007 9:00:42 AM)

I don't know very much about Black-mail fetishes.
You don't hear about them every day around here.

- Susan  



simplewhispers -> RE: 'Real doms' (2/27/2007 9:04:44 AM)

well so you are more like a therapist, recieving gifts, and as long as they want you to have it .... then why not ..........what do you do if you dont get it?



LotusSong -> RE: 'Real doms' (2/27/2007 9:08:12 AM)

I think it would be beneficial to explain how this all works to dissuade any assumptions. I admit, all  I know all I know of this is "some guy contacts a Domme and offers her money and his kink is that she accepts it".  Could you share with us what follows then?  I feel someone might think a form of extortion or blackmail to keep them coming back (that's also another fetish)  If so, HOW do you "blackmail" them?
 
I remember once that a man contacted me with an offer to pay me money to write him abusive emails.  For the first one he offered $5.. then said with each successive email he would double it ($5 becomes $10, $20 becomes $20, $20 becomes $40...etc).  I declined because it just wasn't my thing.

So anyhow, this is a sincere query as to how it all works.



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