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RE: Just a comment - 3/5/2007 9:04:40 AM   
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I thought this was a "Discussion" board.  So, what's the harm in discussing?  No said that we all have to agree in order to get along. 

Apparently, you don't know the difference between discussing where you actually listen to other's opinions and simply trying to cram your ideas down everyones throats. But keep it up if you  to make a fool of yourself; nobody said you can't do that either.

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RE: Just a comment - 3/5/2007 9:09:18 AM   
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ORIGINAL: GeekyGirl

NControlofU: So you're saying you can't be TPE and be monogamous? Again, a load of bull. I could easily say, "I am TPE within the confines of monogamy". I might have NO interest in being in a TPE where other people will be brought in.


I am NOT defending his attitude, but he does have a right to acknowledge what HE feels is TPE in his relationship, just as your dom and you do in yours.
 
I will stand by my orignal post in this thread, when a girl wants to be a TPE slave as he says, and then has a ton of hard limits, does she really know what she is asking for?  She is, at best, giving conflicting messages.
I wrote a post yesterday about how girls say, usually a specific age range, they want nothing more than to be a peice of property, demoralizing , devaling themselves as if they had absolutey NO self esteem or self confidence and were all about self loathing, I truly wonder if they really know what they are asking for.  Apparently this dude hasnt seen their profiles yet.

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RE: Just a comment - 3/5/2007 9:24:39 AM   
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Limits, No Limits, whatever Limits.  What is important is finding somebody which you click with for all this madness.  Because let's face it true slavery is not legal.

You don't have to have a no limits slave to find pleasure.   There are pro's and con's to everything.  You need to simply find what works best for you, and find somebody else of the same mindset.

Too many people are closed in the confines of total power exchange, D/s relationships.   I'm a little more open minded myself in this matter. 

I am open to having a complete No Limits sub/slave, where I control everything.
I am open to being with a sub/slave type, where there are limits and communication regarding what the hell is going on.
I am open to being with a Switch, where we can explore things on a two way street.
I am open to being with a Domme, where we can explore things on a two way street and fuck with other people minds and etc...

Why is everybody so Stuck on TPE for a 24/7 relationship?  Me, I look for certain qualities in a person and where that might fit into my life.  If I find the right one for a complete 24/7 TPE, I'll do it!  If the right one comes along for the other types of relationships I'm open for... I'll do it! 












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RE: Just a comment - 3/5/2007 9:31:49 AM   
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ORIGINAL: GeekyGirl

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ORIGINAL: marieToo

I think you're enslaved when your head is so occupied by someone else that you don't even have the inclination to focus on what you wouldn't do for them, but rather the need to beg for the opportunity to do something you hate just for the priviledge to serve that person.


Don't guess I've ever been properly enslaved then...can't remember ever jumping for joy and begging for the opportunity to tell my best friend to get out of my life, begging for the opportunity to tell my parents "f-you, I've found someone more important" begging for the opportunity to take my dog to the pound or some such....



What I was trying to say (and I probably didn't do a very good job of it) is that so many people try to define themselves by some list of mythical rules-- ie:  A slave has no limits, a slave has no rights, etc etc. 

Personally I dont even like the use of the word slave and I dont partake in the Sub Vs Slave debates.   And the reason for that is because I cannot relate to it on the same plane that most people approach it from. For example the over-played debate about rights, limits and consentuality.  To me its about a particular state of mind.  Whether I think I can get past 'limits', or have 'rights' has no relevance to that state of mind.  Feeling enslaved is a mental state where someone is inhabiting me to a point where its overwhelming and I am weak against it.  Im not even going to get on the subject of whether or not this is something I strive for, or that it's "proper", or healthy,  or better than.  Its simply about being bound by something you can't see or touch; something that transcends all defintion and rules,  because theres not even a word strong enough for it. To me, that is enslavement; the only enslavement.  That doesnt mean Im defining it for you.  Hell, I don't even know you and your dog.  


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RE: Just a comment - 3/5/2007 9:52:56 AM   
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ORIGINAL: NControlofU

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ORIGINAL: StellaByStarlite

Hello. =)


Hypothetical situations vs. realism, I think that's what it boils down to here.

I can see what NControlofU is getting at. Total Power means just that to him: absolute power. But NControl, do you realize that even that is an illusion in America? If we're going to get all literal here, which you seem to be, you might as well go all the way.

It's silly and potentially damaging to make absolute statements as to what "real" slavery is. If you want to get right down to the gist of it, even a "no limits" slave has the law on his or her side, no matter what. No amount of debate will change that simple fact. If you think that doesn't make a difference, it does.

That being said, it's probably best to let individuals work it out for themselves.

Cheers,
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It's an illusion to those who aren't living it.  I happen to be living it and loving it.




Okay. I'm sure that in your subjective opinion, you have a TPE, absolute power relationship. That doesn't make it objectively true, no, not really.

No matter how all-emcompassing somebody's slavery is, a master cannot take away the rights that we as a nation have given to every citizen. For example: A slave gives the master the "right" to kill him or her. He decides to take that right. Well, guess what? Master goes to prison for murder. That's an extreme hypothetical. But in the end, that's all there is.

So, in my opinion, "no rights" is not only unrealistic, it's downright impossible. Masters aren't above the law. And yes, the law matters a great deal. This isn't the Sudan, for goodness sake. =)

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RE: Just a comment - 3/5/2007 11:08:14 AM   
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ORIGINAL: FORCEFULL11229

As a Lifestyle Dom in the life for over 25 years, it still amazes me to read the various ads from females who claim that they are slaves, but yet in thier ads they dictate what they will and wont do. How they expect the "Master" to behave.
Funny, I always thought a slave does as the Master wishes, not the other way around. I also understand that the Master always has the slaves welfare at heart, making sure that no harm befalls her.


What are those stupid beyotches thinkin?

I'll give you a hint man... make the safe work chachuka. Because when a gun is in their mouths they can only speak in vowels.


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RE: Just a comment - 3/5/2007 11:23:29 AM   
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ORIGINAL: carolsea

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ORIGINAL: marieToo

I think you're enslaved when your head is so occupied by someone else that you don't even have the inclination to focus on what you wouldn't do for them, but rather the need to beg for the opportunity to do something you hate just for the priviledge to serve that person.  It's in that state of mind that the "sub vs slave vs bottom vs whathaveyou" debate becomes completely inapplicable.


Oh, EXCELLENT way to put it, MarieToo!!!  I hope you don't mind if I borrow that sometime!



Borrow it, take it, have it, steal it.  It slices, it dices, it chops and it peels.  But thats not all.... If you act now.....We'll even throw in the handy dandy no-drip turkey baster and matching salad bowl set!  

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RE: Just a comment - 3/5/2007 11:33:35 AM   
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ORIGINAL: marieToo
Borrow it, take it, have it, steal it.  It slices, it dices, it chops and it peels.  But thats not all.... If you act now.....We'll even throw in the handy dandy no-drip turkey baster and matching salad bowl set!  


What?  No Ronco Pocket Fisherman thrown in for good measure?  Hmmmmmpppphhhhh!

BTW, I understood and agree with your first post.......... waaaay back yonder somewhere! 

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RE: Just a comment - 3/5/2007 11:52:08 AM   
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What?  No Ronco Pocket Fisherman thrown in for good measure?  Hmmmmmpppphhhhh!  


Sorry but those were reserved for the first 10 callers.  

quote:

BTW, I understood and agree with your first post.......... waaaay back yonder somewhere! 


Must be that strange dis-ease thing we got going on. 


edited to fix my quote boxes.  I really need to leave the house more often

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RE: Just a comment - 3/5/2007 11:57:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		Don't Masters have limits??  Wouldn't it be correct for a potential slave to find out if the potential Master's limits were in consonance?
The slave eventually wants to rely on the Master's limits, right?

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RE: Just a comment - 3/5/2007 12:01:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Aine

Yet another shite storm where no one is going to agree.
 
I just don't understand why people can't just say "this or that is not my bag, this is how I feel for MY relationships" and just leave out all the farkin bashing of others?
 
Definitions are moot at this point.


I'm rather inclined to agree. Things seem to have gone the flame route.

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RE: Just a comment - 3/5/2007 12:09:28 PM   
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ORIGINAL: FukinTroll

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ORIGINAL: FORCEFULL11229

As a Lifestyle Dom in the life for over 25 years, it still amazes me to read the various ads from females who claim that they are slaves, but yet in thier ads they dictate what they will and wont do. How they expect the "Master" to behave.
Funny, I always thought a slave does as the Master wishes, not the other way around. I also understand that the Master always has the slaves welfare at heart, making sure that no harm befalls her.


What are those stupid beyotches thinkin?

I'll give you a hint man... make the safe work chachuka. Because when a gun is in their mouths they can only speak in vowels.



Troll, I woke up from a long nap to this. I'm not sure how to feel about that...

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RE: Just a comment - 3/5/2007 12:13:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well see Aqua, you are proving the OP's point. Your thinking. Now how am I supose to BBQ your D and console you after if you make the connection that I am a tyrant?

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RE: Just a comment - 3/5/2007 12:21:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		I swear I'm not really thinking! That would be unsubbly! I'm just.... um... um.... getting blockage in my brain?

By the way, does it count as being a tyrant if the gun wasn't loaded? *considers*

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RE: Just a comment - 3/5/2007 12:24:37 PM   
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RE: Just a comment - 3/5/2007 12:47:35 PM   
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RE: Just a comment - 3/5/2007 12:55:28 PM   
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RE: Just a comment - 3/5/2007 1:16:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		lemme get this right a person who is a slave has to be a slave to everyone or they arent really a slave... yeah that makes sence.. sure Ill submit to anything and everything no matter who you are after all Im a slave and have no right to find the Master I WANT TO submit to... Your right I should never have had what I wanted in my profile instead I should have just put up a photo up and my adress and whoever wanted me just came to get me because after all Im a slave who am I to refuse a person who says they are a Master that would make me a real slave.. Ok now lets get back to the real world

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RE: Just a comment - 3/5/2007 1:23:24 PM   
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lemme get this right a person who is a slave has to be a slave to everyone or they arent really a slave... yeah that makes sence.. sure Ill submit to anything and everything no matter who you are after all Im a slave and have no right to find the Master I WANT TO submit to... Your right I should never have had what I wanted in my profile instead I should have just put up a photo up and my adress and whoever wanted me just came to get me because after all Im a slave who am I to refuse a person who says they are a Master that would make me a real slave.. Ok now lets get back to the real world

Magik's slave


You were dead on... untill you got to the red part.

You have to understand how it works. I will give you an e-mail example.

Dom 1: On Ur Neez Bithc.
Slave: i'm having truble typing down here.
Dom 1: STFU.. Ur My Kolrd Bithc now!
Slave: Okay Master!
Dom2: On ur knez Bithc!
Slave: Already am.
Dom2: STFU.. Ur My coLrd Bithc now.
Slave: Okay.

It s also known as musical collars.

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RE: Just a comment - 3/5/2007 1:29:09 PM   
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ORIGINAL: FukinTroll

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ORIGINAL: MagiksSlave

lemme get this right a person who is a slave has to be a slave to everyone or they arent really a slave... yeah that makes sence.. sure Ill submit to anything and everything no matter who you are after all Im a slave and have no right to find the Master I WANT TO submit to... Your right I should never have had what I wanted in my profile instead I should have just put up a photo up and my adress and whoever wanted me just came to get me because after all Im a slave who am I to refuse a person who says they are a Master that would make me a real slave.. Ok now lets get back to the real world

Magik's slave


You were dead on... untill you got to the red part.

You have to understand how it works. I will give you an e-mail example.

Dom 1: On Ur Neez Bithc.
Slave: i'm having truble typing down here.
Dom 1: STFU.. Ur My Kolrd Bithc now!
Slave: Okay Master!
Dom2: On ur knez Bithc!
Slave: Already am.
Dom2: STFU.. Ur My coLrd Bithc now.
Slave: Okay.

It s also known as musical collars.


Your right reality us subjectable depending on the person.. but I think you got my main point... the way the op seems to think things work just isnt the way it happens you arent a slave to everyone I mean if the op was right well...I dont have the heart to tell Master we did it the wrong way.

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