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RE: elegance in serving - 3/9/2007 7:57:55 AM   
Llyren


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Status: offline 		One thing that I've discovered helps with being graceful is lifting weights.  If you lift very slowly, you have to exert great control to keep it smooth.  This helps you learn how the muscles work, and you can hopefully apply it later.  Unless you're gulping assorted substances, you won't typically bulk.  Female muscles are designed a bit differently.  I know I feel more graceful when I'm stronger, and muscles at rest burn more calories than fat at rest.  

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RE: elegance in serving - 3/9/2007 4:19:03 PM   
raevnn


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Status: offline 		I wrote about this recently in my LJ and said that I completely lacked grace, but that my owner didn't care because he loves the way i am.

Well, come to find out that I have gained grace without realising it.

I wish I could explain how.
Apparently, I needed to forget about it and stop bothering to try and it just happened.

I might suggest being conscious of your movements and to move more slowly, when possible.

Hello from north of Boston, by the way ;)

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RE: elegance in serving - 3/9/2007 4:39:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		Raevynn--

being in love gives you inner grace. it's guaranteed. much happiness!

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RE: elegance in serving - 3/9/2007 4:47:59 PM   
novicecourtesan


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Status: offline 		Once again, I'd like to say how happy I am with this thread. Being physically graceful is probably the first step, since so much of our opinions about a person or an encounter are made within seconds of the first meeting.

Everything suggested on this thread has an underlying theme: discipline. Ballet dancers, yoga instructors, tai chi practitioners--it takes an incredible amount of discipline to slow down and or be active as the situation requires without looking unladylike. I think it has to do with being aware of our bodies and respecting our surroundings.

Meditation was mentioned earlier, and I can't emphasize how great it is--and how hard it is. Again, discipline. Try meditating on a candle flame for thirty seconds--letting all thoughts slide by without distracting your forcus. It's bloody hard.

Now, I'm a klutz and am easily distracted. And I hate exercising, so my daily gym routine is all I can hope for. To compensate, I read fashion and beauty books (especially the old ones, which, apart from anachronistic advice on sex, can be very sensible) and I watch women who have grace. And I read threads like this!

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RE: elegance in serving - 3/9/2007 4:49:38 PM   
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RE: elegance in serving - 3/9/2007 5:55:36 PM   
catize


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Status: offline 		………….grace?  Who is she and what is she doing in master’s living room? 
I’m hopeless; I have no depth perception and so I have no idea how close/far I am from any given object (makes driving fun!)
I gashed my knee with a razor when I was shaving my underarms………don’t ask!
Master had me wear heels once; he ended up laughing so hard he cried……and now I go barefoot.
If I get through a day without breaking something, knocking over a glass or stubbing my toe, it’s either a miracle or it’s a sick day.
I know people who can wear grubby clothes and still look elegant.  I can wear an elegant dress and still look grubby. 
Hopeless, that’s me!  And at my age, I don’t expect it will change much.

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RE: elegance in serving - 3/9/2007 6:17:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		No I am not working on this, I am thinking about showing him this thread to see if he would like me to, but I am thinking that he probably would not care about these things as long as I am friendly and sociable. I do know how to serve elegantly from my server days, but it is not something I do all the time

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RE: elegance in serving - 3/10/2007 11:00:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		Grace takes an aweful lot of repeated trying, no matter which way you attempt to seem to obtain it. It seems always to me to be so many small things coming together at one time, and subconsiously thrying to not to get them all wrong at one time and one place! There are so many things mentioned - but the right answer will always be specific to that person - and personality - and especially their patience!!!

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RE: elegance in serving - 3/10/2007 11:22:23 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: mixielicous

something new that has come up is grace in servitude, elegance in serving. this is a quality that i have found the hardest to acheive because it is completely different to me.

the way the geisha served a man with such grace has always enticed me and recently i began my research on how to begin moving with elegance inside the house, with all the serving i preform, including domestic.

for me this is ideal because it will epitomize what Master and i view as an ideal slave, including ultra feminine in [most] movement.


This is an area that I am interested in as well -- if you get any good information, please share! :)

Soon, I would like to learn the Japanese tea ceremony for Sir.  He loves the idea of "strict elegance" as has made mention, several times, of how he would like for me to work on that aspect of myself.  Though I am not "rough and tumble" -- there is always room for improvement.

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RE: elegance in serving - 3/12/2007 9:00:21 AM   
mixielicous


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Status: offline 		i am actually a big fan of heels, because with my current state [broke] it is the only pratice i can utilize at this moment. but i tell ya, my first pay check i will be asking Master for some DVD's on tai chi and ballet or something LOL.

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RE: elegance in serving - 3/12/2007 10:33:53 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: lighthearted

grace is something I've always strived for, it's been something I've been trying to attain for the better part of my adult life.  I've found that the calmness and serenity I've attained as a result of exploring my submission has helped me greatly in that department.  the by-product is, I find myself a bit more conscious of my own physical state, and as a result more able to achieve that elegance you mention.

mind you, I have been at times been labeled a major klutz, but the key for me has been the body consciousness.  and also, I think it's one of those things that can be learned by faking it in the beginning.  you know, being sure to bend at the knees every time you bend over to pick something up, set things down gently, leave the heavy lifting to the men-folk ...
  (bold italics are mine…b)
 
 
What a lovely thought!  I was thinking the same thing; that just being calm can bring grace.  I am not graceful, either; but my body consciousness is bad and my effort to quickly please keep me going to fast.  When I slow down, I am a bit more graceful.  Perhaps it is all about doing things deliberately…and being IN THE MOMENT.
 
Speaking of grace, what a lovely post, behindmirrors.  Thank you.
 
Swtrayn, the two books I imagine Michael was speaking of are by Miss Abernathy: “Miss Abernathy's Concise Slave Training Manual” and “Training With Miss Abernathy: A Workbook for Erotic Slaves and Their Owners”.  She also wrote “Erotic Slavehood: A Miss Abernathy Omnibus” by Christina Abernathy and Laura (FWD) Antoniou.  I believe most were published by Greenery Press, as Michael noted…but are also available at Amazon (used).  I didn’t know they were combining the two books to one…though I can say I did find her books interesting reading.
 
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RE: elegance in serving - 3/12/2007 10:43:38 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: mixielicous
i am actually a big fan of heels, because with my current state [broke] it is the only pratice i can utilize at this moment. but i tell ya, my first pay check i will be asking Master for some DVD's on tai chi and ballet or something LOL.

Do you have a VCR or DVR?  You could always tape some of the many fitness programs that are on TV during the day.

And posture training can certainly be done all the time.

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RE: elegance in serving - 3/12/2007 11:01:00 AM   
mixielicous


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quote:

ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

quote:

ORIGINAL: mixielicous
i am actually a big fan of heels, because with my current state [broke] it is the only practice i can utilize at this moment. but i tell ya, my first pay check i will be asking Master for some DVD's on tai chi and ballet or something LOL.

Do you have a VCR or DVR? You could always tape some of the many fitness programs that are on TV during the day.

And posture training can certainly be done all the time.

holy frick, i am such a space case, i totally forgot we now have DVR - its only been a few weeks now. yessssssss, thanks LA lol

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RE: elegance in serving - 3/12/2007 11:22:28 AM   
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RE: elegance in serving - 3/12/2007 11:31:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		you ain't got a library in that town anymore?  No secondhand DVDs?

LOL

ooooops-------way late

I have to work on my elegance in chiding...........



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RE: elegance in serving - 3/12/2007 11:40:12 AM   
mixielicous


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Status: offline 		in this city - i have NO IDEA where the library is, only been here 3 months or so, and i am sure its not within walking distance, thats just my luck

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RE: elegance in serving - 3/12/2007 1:49:40 PM   
MasterNdorei


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Status: offline 		i have enjoyed reading this thread, and will incorporate some of the ideas in my daily training.
i am especially envious of the women who have exceptionally graceful hand movements, such as bellydancers, and island dancers. i have been mimicing the lightness of movement in the work out videos i do, and stretching my wrists and hands in an attempt to aquire these movements, but it is a really slow process.
Does anyone have any ideas geared specifically for the graceful movements of hands?

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RE: elegance in serving - 3/12/2007 2:39:09 PM   
mixielicous


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Status: offline 		did you see post #68? that touches on hands

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RE: elegance in serving - 3/12/2007 6:40:30 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: mixielicous

i recieved a PM that a good way to start is with a taichi video and lots of mirrors. watch yourself and watch for the grace to come from within.




i will so agree with this - TaiChi is something i perform twice a day and it will definitely enhance not just your service but your life :-)

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RE: elegance in serving - 3/12/2007 7:44:37 PM   
Elorin


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Status: offline 		To learn body awareness, wear bells. Wear them on one ankle or both, then walk down the hallway. Listen to see if they jangle discordantly as you put each foot on the floor. If they do, practice until the sound of the bells is a smooth melody, with barely a break at each step.

Practice to see if you can walk with the bells as silent as possible.
Try to see if you can put rhythms with the bells into your walk, perhaps accenting one foot or another as it rises.

Put bells on your hands, or your arms. Listen to how you move, and try to use the sound to create smoother movements.

Put bells in your hair, or as earrings. Find out exactly how much your head moves as you walk and move about. Strive to achieve some (or multiple) tasks without ringing the bells in your hair significantly.


For extra walking exercises, walk on paper. Lay newspaper or something similar along the floor, and walk. Listen to the sounds you are making. Now try again, aiming for less sound. Did you rip the paper the first time? Keep trying with fresh paper until you can walk across it without tearing it at all. Do it again in shoes. Do it again in high heels.

When you can walk across that paper without making a sound, try walking on rice paper.

Just exercises for learning more about how your body moves.

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