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mixielicous -> elegance in serving (3/5/2007 12:26:58 PM)

something new that has come up is grace in servitude, elegance in serving. this is a quality that i have found the hardest to acheive because it is completely different to me.

i grew up rough and tumble, one of the boys - for a long time - having to prove myself in the green industry where i am surrounded by men [even in school it was 6::1 - at least] so i have learned how to maintain a very rough, aggressive, intelligent powerful persona in the way i handle and carry myself in the world.

the way the geisha served a man with such grace has always enticed me and recently i began my research on how to begin moving with elegance inside the house, with all the serving i preform, including domestic.

for me this is ideal because it will epitomize what Master and i view as an ideal slave, including ultra feminine in [most] movement.


so, THE QUESTION IS:

if your Master/Owner/Dom has had you working on this, what are some exercises He has you utilize, or that you have read about?

this is sure to be the hardest habit to break yet!



FukinTroll -> RE: elegance in serving (3/5/2007 12:28:53 PM)

Mail me.



LuckyAlbatross -> RE: elegance in serving (3/5/2007 12:29:13 PM)

Dance is good, yoga, pilates, and just general posture training.  I'm a total klutz, so I always have to work just to end up not black and blue all over.  Grace is something that hopefully finds inspiration from within, and then hones into their muscles.  It's all about being aware of your body and its relation to everything else.



Arastella -> RE: elegance in serving (3/5/2007 12:35:31 PM)

I have the same question, actually.  Please, advice greatly appreciated.  I would like to know as well.



mixielicous -> RE: elegance in serving (3/5/2007 12:40:22 PM)

i recieved a PM that a good way to start is with a taichi video and lots of mirrors. watch yourself and watch for the grace to come from within.

woah for paraphrasing .... hope i got it right lol




allofmee -> RE: elegance in serving (3/5/2007 12:42:02 PM)

Grace and elegance are lovely qualities in a servant, yes! I do consider them to be genderless, though.

Think of a formal resturant, with a charming waiter who serves the finest cuisine and wine with a flourish.

Most everybody can feel goofy at times. Practice.. and use your best silver and china! [;)]

PS Don't forget to wear a cute lil apron LOL



Arastella -> RE: elegance in serving (3/5/2007 12:42:07 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: mixielicous

i recieved a PM that a good way to start is with a taichi video and lots of mirrors. watch yourself and watch for the grace to come from within.

woah for paraphrasing .... hope i got it right lol


Thanks... now I just needa find some mirrors...... lol



BRNaughtyAngel -> RE: elegance in serving (3/5/2007 12:42:08 PM)

I'm not always graceful either, which is one reason I tend to look down when I'm walking - hafta make sure I don't trip over some unseen air or sumthin'... [;)]

I can be quite graceful in some ways, but I'm so used to no one caring what I look like, how I'm moving or how I'm doing something that I have to remind myself that someone does now. 

First time He told me to kneel, I was more concerned with getting down there and not falling on my face AND being able to get back up again.  So it wasn't overly graceful and He made me do it over several times and required that I practice at home.



LuckyAlbatross -> RE: elegance in serving (3/5/2007 12:43:35 PM)

Oh and I'll add that I think you know grace is acheived when you become invisible.

It's like the third person speech- the ones who really know how to do it well and do it gracefully, you don't even notice.  It's when you NOTICE that you know it's not really graceful.



mixielicous -> RE: elegance in serving (3/5/2007 12:45:19 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

Oh and I'll add that I think you know grace is acheived when you become invisible.

It's like the third person speech- the ones who really know how to do it well and do it gracefully, you don't even notice. It's when you NOTICE that you know it's not really graceful.



that is a nice goal to keep in mind what an excellent way of looking at it



gypsygrl -> RE: elegance in serving (3/5/2007 12:46:50 PM)

This is almost a hard limit for me.  The first person I talked to with some kind of intent was really into this stuff. He fancied himself to be a bit of a pharoh and presumably saw me as something of a concubine.  Or something like that.  It didn't work out.  I've found that I can't pursue anything seriously that isn't easy to integrate into the rest of my life.  My life doesn't require grace.  It requires endurance and patience, but not grace.  I'm more of a work horse than a belly dancer.

But, for a time I was really into something along the lines of "forced feminiztion" (I've taken a lot of inspiration from male submissives.) and it worked really well.  I kind of miss that.



MasterFireMaam -> RE: elegance in serving (3/5/2007 1:13:16 PM)

One of the exercises I've seen is to tie a sarong around your chest, knotting it above your breasts. Then, work on moving in such fluid ways that the sarong doesn't gap open. Try walking, leaning and kneeling. It's not as easy as it sounds.

Master Fire



viperess -> RE: elegance in serving (3/5/2007 1:25:22 PM)

Gretings,

Two things that helped me was 1) for posture walk with a couple books on your head. It makes you stand straight with your head held high and eyes down cast to see where you are going. and 2) corset training (which can be a pain) but will help with posture while kneeling and doing other things...but always take it slow and do not try to over do.



swtrayn -> RE: elegance in serving (3/5/2007 2:01:28 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: FukinTroll

Mail me.


I was hoping you would share your ideas and insight with the group.

rayn



lighthearted -> RE: elegance in serving (3/5/2007 3:46:08 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: viperess

for posture walk with a couple books on your head. It makes you stand straight with your head held high and eyes down cast to see where you are going.



my mother made me do that as a child/young girl.  it would drive me crazy...but now I'm glad she did.  (it also makes a great party trick, lol)



lighthearted -> RE: elegance in serving (3/5/2007 3:53:38 PM)

grace is something I've always strived for, it's been something I've been trying to attain for the better part of my adult life.  I've found that the calmness and serenity I've attained as a result of exploring my submission has helped me greatly in that department.  the by-product is, I find myself a bit more conscious of my own physical state, and as a result more able to achieve that elegance you mention.

mind you, I have been at times been labeled a major klutz, but the key for me has been the body consciousness.  and also, I think it's one of those things that can be learned by faking it in the beginning.  you know, being sure to bend at the knees every time you bend over to pick something up, set things down gently, leave the heavy lifting to the men-folk [;)]...



Mercnbeth -> RE: elegance in serving (3/5/2007 4:34:05 PM)

more than any other form of dance or instruction, ballet would be this slave's suggestion.
 
good luck![:)]



FukinTroll -> RE: elegance in serving (3/5/2007 4:53:56 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: swtrayn

quote:

ORIGINAL: FukinTroll

Mail me.


I was hoping you would share your ideas and insight with the group.

rayn



You forget I am sadistic.



swtrayn -> RE: elegance in serving (3/5/2007 5:00:48 PM)

 
ORIGINAL: FukinTroll

quote:

 You forget I am sadistic.


If I agree that I forgot, will you remind me??

(laughs)

rayn

*Was serious about your insight into this topic*



FukinTroll -> RE: elegance in serving (3/5/2007 5:06:06 PM)

That depends on if you "locate" or not.



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