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RE: Sub/slaves with mastectomy’s. - 3/25/2007 8:20:07 AM

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mrdiscipline,

i appreciate your honesty as well. i am curious here, though, and not being sarcastic - how would you want your partner to feel if you had testicular cancer and you needed an inguinal orchiectomy (removal of one or both testicles)?

Ah, but see my dear annabelle, in your question, this person is already my partner. The question, as asked is whether I would make a person who has already gone through the mastectomy. There is a difference. Besides, I can't direct how they will feel towards it. Reguardless of how great a dominant says they are, they all have limits as to what they can control.

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RE: Sub/slaves with mastectomy’s. - 3/25/2007 8:21:59 AM

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I agree. In fact, I have been surprised that more opinions such as MrD's were not expressed. I would venture to guess they have not been because the obvious reaction of chastisement prevented them from bothering. While I would disagree that a mastecticized (is that a word?) woman looks like a man, he is certain entitled to his opinion, as is anyone else around here. It's not like I haven't read any posts from females with similar views about males. I have known more than one girl who has said she would not be with a man who had penile dysfunction. Everyone is entitled to their preferences. I've been passed by because of my looks before. I've also been scooped up because of my looks. Life is what it is.

Now for the odd side of the coin. I have had sub/slaves say I am too hot for them. It always hits me way left field because the way we perceive ourselves are different than others, I think, but it strikes me the same way as the too fat, too old, too young, too etc… thing.

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RE: Sub/slaves with mastectomy’s. - 3/25/2007 8:54:52 AM

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How do you feel, I mean really feel and not the glossy fluff for the forum, about accepting a sub/slave who has had a mastectomy or double mastectomy?

i should already be out the door hiking this morning but i can't leave without addresing this one thread. This hits very close to home for me. i have lost family and friends to breast cancer and even had a scare with it myself a couple of years ago. Personally, my breast are small and to lose one or both, does not affect how i see myself as a woman, it would be the cause, the cancer, that i would have to gather my energy for.

Before i left western medicine to write and explore the holistic realm, one of my specialties was mammography. It was by far the most rewarding specialty i had. The women i came in contact with daily, the stories of survival, their fears and hopes, the people that loved them....more often than not, a 15 minute exam ended with hugs, tears, and hope.

i have seen all types of breasts, some so small they hardly fit on the compression plate and others so large they took multiple films to get the entire breast imaged. But after awhile, you no longer see the breast in front of you but the woman behind it...and SHE is beautiful!

i can appreciate those that would not want an individual with flaws. If someone can be honest with themselves and others about this, i applaude them and they should not be judged.It is their choice, afterall. However, i like to associate with individuals who see the whole person and what is inside them. It is that which makes us unique that i find so beautiful~

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RE: Sub/slaves with mastectomy’s. - 3/25/2007 9:00:33 AM

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We all are going to get old if we are lucky.
Many of us will gain weight, some will lose their hair, most will have medical problems.
You can be walking one day, and wake up unable to walk the next day.
You can be healthy one day and wake up the next and be told you have a terminal disease.
You can cross the street and get hit by a bus, and be in a nursing home at say the age of 23.
Point is....
things happen to all of us and none of us get out alive.
If you base your relationships on how you look and how your partners look, I feel sorry for you.
It is sad that this thread even needs to exist.

You're right. Things happen to all of us. And whether they are good or bad, we will be attractive to some and not be attractive to others. Just as now. Reguardless of how self rightous you wish to be, even you have a limit as to who you will have as a sub/slave. I just expressed mine.

The difference here is, you are the one that resorts to name calling.
The lowest road to go, and I do not.
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RE: Sub/slaves with mastectomy’s. - 3/25/2007 11:20:13 AM

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If you're seeing name calling in what I wrote, maybe it's because it's what you want to see and not what is actually being conveyed. Reguardless, the truth of it can not be denied.

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RE: Sub/slaves with mastectomy’s. - 3/25/2007 11:32:03 AM

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You're right. Things happen to all of us. And whether they are good or bad, we will be attractive to some and not be attractive to others. Just as now. Reguardless of how self rightous you wish to be, even you have a limit as to who you will have as a sub/slave. I just expressed mine.

This is a difficult thing to post here but....

As I said in my earlier post this is a little off topic but with a similar feel. What I went through 6 years ago left me with an ileostomy "Fred" (for those that do not know it means that a large amount of my large intestine was removed and I am left with a "bag" on my stomach to collect waste) and this caused me a lot of concern when meeting people so I decided to try the online route. I chatted to some people and got on well with them up until the point of telling them about "Fred". Many were straight and said "that is disgusting I want nothing to do with you", others disappeared, some blocked me.

My Mother was horrified at their reaction but I was actually glad of that reaction. I would not want to have anything to do with people that were so shallow that they did not even want to chat to someone that had that physical issue. Two particular people I chatted to at that time were not interested at all in the issue and continued to chat happily. One of those is still a good friend and the other is my Master, who has never once had any issue with "Fred". He is comfortable enough and strong enough in himself to be able to look at the person rather than their skin.

I wish there were more like him.

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RE: Sub/slaves with mastectomy’s. - 3/25/2007 12:24:32 PM

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mrdiscipline,

i appreciate your honesty as well. i am curious here, though, and not being sarcastic - how would you want your partner to feel if you had testicular cancer and you needed an inguinal orchiectomy (removal of one or both testicles)?

Ah, but see my dear annabelle, in your question, this person is already my partner. The question, as asked is whether I would make a person who has already gone through the mastectomy. There is a difference. Besides, I can't direct how they will feel towards it. Reguardless of how great a dominant says they are, they all have limits as to what they can control.

change it to potential partner, then. how would you feel if a potential partner rejected you because of that?

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RE: Sub/slaves with mastectomy’s. - 3/25/2007 3:51:28 PM

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Same as I have about any potential that has rejected me for any reason. I say "oh well" and move on to the next. I can't and won't be hung up on the rejection of one who is not even apart of my life yet. My self-confidence is not hinged on someone else. And I really feel sorry for those who's self-confidence obviously is.

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RE: Sub/slaves with mastectomy’s. - 3/26/2007 4:45:25 AM

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A woman with a masectomy or a person who had the surgery that
susie describes would not be a deterent to me. What I would have
to consider though; is if the cancer returned could I handle going
through chemo, surgeries, etc. with them and the possibility of them dying.

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RE: Sub/slaves with mastectomy’s. - 3/26/2007 7:28:16 AM

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This is not directed at the op. Why should someones opinion be deemed shitty just because they are not your opinion? Back to the subject. I have a very dear friend who is a member of Collar me who went thru a double masectomy. She was a beautiful woman before and still is a beautiful woman after. It is not the physical part that makes a person beautiful. It is the inner part. If some people are only attracted to outside beauty then so be it. That is their thing.

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RE: Sub/slaves with mastectomy’s. - 3/26/2007 7:40:39 AM

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This is not directed at the op. Why should someones opinion be deemed shitty just because they are not your opinion?

Perhaps you should read my post and then your post and realize that your question is rather confusing. Yes, I find his point of view to be a shitty one. Yet I also stated that I respect his honesty in saying how he feels. Last I knew we are not all required to agree, in fact I would prefer it. You are free to feel that any of my opinions are shitty also. They are mine and I am not shoving them down your throat or demanding that you agree with me.

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RE: Sub/slaves with mastectomy’s. - 3/26/2007 9:20:41 AM

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How do you feel, I mean really feel and not the glossy fluff for the forum, about accepting a sub/slave who has had a mastectomy or double mastectomy?

I wouldn't. If I wanted a sub/or slave that looked like a guy when she laid face up (or face down for that matter) I'd have a male sub or slave. Since males are of no sexual interest to me, I won't have one.

I do respect that each of us has some things that we just would not be able to deal with, or at this time in our lives think we would not be able to deal with. And the OP does ask for honest answers as to whether people would, or would not, accept a sub in such a situation. But I do think the side note is rather callous. Every one has the right to express an opinion, but I don't think it is necessary to make a statement that could be deeply hurtful to some who have already been hurt so much. If you ever have a sister or close friend who faces mastectomy, I really hope you can muster up a little compassion for her.

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RE: Sub/slaves with mastectomy’s. - 3/26/2007 9:51:19 AM

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How do you feel, I mean really feel and not the glossy fluff for the forum, about accepting a sub/slave who has had a mastectomy or double mastectomy?

I wouldn't. If I wanted a sub/or slave that looked like a guy when she laid face up (or face down for that matter) I'd have a male sub or slave. Since males are of no sexual interest to me, I won't have one.

I truely respect your right to have and voice your opinion. But what I fail to understand is how a WOMAN can look like a man in any way shape or form simply because she has scars where breasts once were. Also since people basically look the same from the back (nothing to distinguish male from female) how would she look like a man face down?

Stating your opinion is wonderful, but at least think about what you are going to say before you say it. State it so that it makes sense. Especially when you risk hurting or offending people that might be dealing with sensitive issues.

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