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ORIGINAL: sambamanslilgirl

we discussed this yesterday at Fearless Radio during the New Music Binge.  thank goodness that we're an internet radio station here in Chicago because we can say and/or discuss whatever the hell we like (including sex, BDSM, etc) without any FCC rules clamping down on our free speech.  i don't agree to what Imus said on air however he's no better than Howard Stern or Mancow or Steve Dahl (local shock jocks in Chicago).  its a case of double standard here imho - Black Americans can say jiggaboo or wannabe (see Spike Lee's School Daze) as insult to another however if a white shock jock utters it, then it's racism.  something's wrong here.

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ORIGINAL: BBBTBW

Sambamanlilgirl,

The example you used was a movie.  It was based in the 50's I believe and was about showing how racism can separate people strictly by skin color.  Bad example.  Those particular terms are not even used anymore, and if they are, it is isolated cases.  .

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ORIGINAL: XahleenaXkajiraX

Couldnt be more right here... white people are quickly becoming the Majority Minority...we are forced to just shut our mouths when in all actuality Black Americans can say things White people would have no "Right" to say... We have to literally think before we speak on everything I can only imagine what the talk-show host, radio-host, actors/actresses etc.. of America have to do... Hey but thats on a totally different topic I just think You made a good point sambam.

• When most white people talk about their friends, they distinguish them by race.   ex: I have black friends, rather than just having friends. 
  
• When some white people are distinguing people in speech and on paper they say Blacks, Hispanics, Asians etc...but they will always distinguish White with the word "people" following it.

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ORIGINAL: Krys
He is still completely covered by the first amendment.  That keeps him from being arrested and jailed for having an opinion and stating it.  However, no one should suffer the delusion that the first amendment means that nothing they say will have consequence.  Sometimes that consequence will be that people calling you an asshole (which the first amendment allows them to do).  Sometimes that consequence will be people boycotting you (and thereby asserting their own first amendment right.)  Sometimes that result will be you getting fired for being a complete dumbass.  The first amendment doesnt, and shouldn't, negate the concept of personal responsibility for your words.  It only protects your abilty to have it without government persecution.  It doesn't mean the general public can't come to the conclusion that you're an ass.  Actions have consequences.

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ORIGINAL: sambamanslilgirl

you're missing the point - it's still a double standard.  it doesn't matter if i used a movie, musical, play, tv sitcom, etc, we as a Black race have a set of standards for us and then scream racism whenever someone other than Black says the same words. WRONG!!  it doesn't matter if the words are used from the 50s or 90s - the point is Rev. Al Sharpton has no right imposing a racial double standard because if Imus was Black, this wouldn't receive much media attention as it has now.  i'm sick and tired of this practice being used every single time a White american gets reamed by our so-called Black leaders because they said the n-word at a comedy club.

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ORIGINAL: krys
The first amendment doesnt, and shouldn't, negate the concept of personal responsibility for your words.  It only protects your abilty to have it without government persecution.  It doesn't mean the general public can't come to the conclusion that you're an ass.  Actions have consequences.

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ORIGINAL: lockedaway

Wait...it's not free speech anymore.  It is "hate speech" and it has been criminalized.  If I call someone a Nigger or a Wop or a Kike, etc., I can be prosecuted for using those words in the State of New York.  In my opinion, the point is that if Black America DID NOT use the N word on the street (you hear it everyday in NYC), in music, in film, etc. etc. etc. White America, Hispanic America, Asian America and those funky Americans that can't be classified wouldn't use it either.

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ORIGINAL: lockedaway

Wait...it's not free speech anymore.  It is "hate speech" and it has been criminalized.  If I call someone a Nigger or a Wop or a Kike, etc., I can be prosecuted for using those words in the State of New York.  In my opinion, the point is that if Black America DID NOT use the N word on the street (you hear it everyday in NYC), in music, in film, etc. etc. etc. White America, Hispanic America, Asian America and those funky Americans that can't be classified wouldn't use it either.

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ORIGINAL: sambamanslilgirl

just because it's something based in the 50s doesn't mean it's not currently happening today, BBBTBW.  i still feel it's a good example since i attended a historical black university where the "wannabes" (like me) were teased for our proper enunciation of the English language and other things by the "jiggaboos" who enjoyed keeping things natural. oh yeah that was back in the 90s too.

minding your Ps and Qs also pertains to Black Americans as well if they are going to offend other races, don't you think? or should there be a set of standards for us and none for everyone else? i don't see Jesse or Al up in arms when a Black actor/comedian making fun of other races - oh no that's acceptable among us. yet when the tables are switch, we demand an apology and then firing them from their job because the Black race feels offended.  however they don't speak for the entire Black race ...they don't represent me and my opinions. i didn't feel offended by Imus' remarks as i mentioned earlier i don't agree with him. it's about equality in free speech which you've forgotten about. screw the Ps and Qs everyone has a right to say whatever the hell they want to say. screaming racism every time someone say something so offensive is one way to keep everyone segregated as a society.